pump bottleneck

[legopc]

i think my ek pump is in some way bottlenecking my watercooling rig becus about a year ago i had one rad less and the same pump and same everything and my temp werent going higher then about 35 degrees and now that i have an extra rad my temps are going up to 50 degrees so i think its my pump holding everything back so would it improve preformace if i would upgrade my pump if yes what pump should i get 

my watercooling loop: 

ek-bay spin res 

ek dcp 2.2 pump

ek supreme ltx wb 

2x ek coolstream xt120

 

[Excon]

MCP-655

[M-ursu]

For awesome flow get any D5 pump

[legopc]

MCP-655

 

 

For awesome flow get any D5 pump

yes i get that but is it realy my pump causing higher temps?? 

[M-ursu]

yes i get that but is it realy my pump causing higher temps?? 

there might be huge air bubble in your radiator.

[legopc]

there might be huge air bubble in your radiator.

that could be the problem becus i can still hear bubbles going in my pump but how do you get it out of there just wiggle it 

[M-ursu]

yes, also change speed of your pump, then it might come out.

[pummetje]

maybe there is gunk in your look that blocks the waterflow

i recommend to refresh the coolant and clean all waterblocks 

open them and clean them with ketchup or lemon juice 

and after that clean it with destilled water 

and get some new coolant 

thats the best way to clean your loop 

[airdeano]

i think my ek pump is in some way bottlenecking my watercooling rig becus about a year ago i had one rad less and the same pump and same everything and my temp werent going higher then about 35 degrees and now that i have an extra rad my temps are going up to 50 degrees so i think its my pump holding everything back so would it improve preformace if i would upgrade my pump if yes what pump should i get 

my watercooling loop: 

ek-bay spin res 

ek dcp 2.2 pump

ek supreme ltx wb 

2x ek coolstream xt120

 

the pump is capable of handling the load (radiators don't restrict flow that much) of

multi rads, other than no/low-flow conditions thermal issues are usually not pump related.

putting in a faster or more powerful pump may hand you the same results.

 

these temperatures are idle or loaded temperatures? system specs?

if you disable one of the radiators fan(s) what happens to the temps? rise fast or no change?

is it possible that an air-pocket is still in some/all of the devices? clear hose? micro bubbles?

no bubbles?

could be a lot of things, need more input!

 

airdeano

[AnimusMalice]

+1 to the MCP655 comment, and also if you've been wanting to upgrade the cooling system a little more you could always upgrade to a dual loop setup for the extra cooling.

 

You might be able to add another pump to the loop and run dual pumps in one loop, not sure if that's a recommended thing so I'd do a little google on that real quick if you're interested in that.

[airdeano]

+1 to the MCP655 comment, and also if you've been wanting to upgrade the cooling system a little more you could always upgrade to a dual loop setup for the extra cooling.

 

You might be able to add another pump to the loop and run dual pumps in one loop, not sure if that's a recommended thing so I'd do a little google on that real quick if you're interested in that.

 

welcome to the forums.

do you know this from experience? in my experience a dual loop does not offer any

extra cooling. you can add extra pumps to a loop, but mainly for redundancy some

pressure scaling  is gained from dual pumps. adding the 2nd radiator should provide

better thermal performance, but we have nothing in information to help this OP.

 

airdeano

[BCMods]

Dual loop just means higher chance of something failing. You also need to accommodate 2 res'.

 

Your pump is fine, your problem lies elsewhere.

[Mansel]

For air bubbles try turning the speed of the pump up then Dow for a while, that can get rid of air bubbles and sometimes wiggle your rig a bit may free bubbles.

[legopc]

the pump is capable of handling the load (radiators don't restrict flow that much) of

multi rads, other than no/low-flow conditions thermal issues are usually not pump related.

putting in a faster or more powerful pump may hand you the same results.

 

these temperatures are idle or loaded temperatures? system specs?

if you disable one of the radiators fan(s) what happens to the temps? rise fast or no change?

is it possible that an air-pocket is still in some/all of the devices? clear hose? micro bubbles?

no bubbles?

could be a lot of things, need more input!

 

airdeano

temps are under load 

specs: 

i3 550 3.8 ghz 

gtx560ti direct cu 1 top 

intel dh55tc 

8gb mem 

120gb 840 

if temps cange if i disable one of the fans: with both fans running 45 degrees with one fan running 47 degrees

there could be air pockets in my loop and there are still bubbles in the loop 

i dont think clearing the hoses would help becus i dont see any crap in there 

[airdeano]

temps are under load 

specs: 

i3 550 3.8 ghz 

gtx560ti direct cu 1 top 

intel dh55tc 

8gb mem 

120gb 840 

if temps cange if i disable one of the fans: with both fans running 45 degrees with one fan running 47 degrees

there could be air pockets in my loop and there are still bubbles in the loop 

i dont think clearing the hoses would help becus i dont see any crap in there 

 

the idea was that if one of the rad(s) were packed with air, disabling the fan(s) on

that radiator and watching the temperatures rise or no change would say that

radiator would prolly be the one not performing as well as the other due to the lesser

temperature drop. then it'd be suspect on possible air pocket impeding thermal

transfer.

 

airdeano

[CJPowell27]

You probably have gunk or a big air bubble stuck in the Rad

[legopc]

the idea was that if one of the rad(s) were packed with air, disabling the fan(s) on

that radiator and watching the temperatures rise or no change would say that

radiator would prolly be the one not performing as well as the other due to the lesser

temperature drop. then it'd be suspect on possible air pocket impeding thermal

transfer.

 

airdeano

i tried disableling one fan and both fans and it did not matter but i still thing the flow is in some way restricted becus with my ek bay res there is a little flow indicator in there and its not spinning as fast as it did befor and and there is a tiny waterfall thingy in the res but water doesnt flow al the way... dont know how to explain it i will include a pic and there is alwase a bubble stuck in my res if i wiggle my rig so the bubble goes away but the next time i start my pc again its there AGAIN

[Ghost]

i tried disableling one fan and both fans and it did not matter but i still thing the flow is in some way restricted becus with my ek bay res there is a little flow indicator in there and its not spinning as fast as it did befor and and there is a tiny waterfall thingy in the res but water doesnt flow al the way... dont know how to explain it i will include a pic and there is alwase a bubble stuck in my res if i wiggle my rig so the bubble goes away but the next time i start my pc again its there AGAIN

Could you repeat that? :/

[Night]

i tried disableling one fan and both fans and it did not matter but i still thing the flow is in some way restricted becus with my ek bay res there is a little flow indicator in there and its not spinning as fast as it did befor and and there is a tiny waterfall thingy in the res but water doesnt flow al the way... dont know how to explain it i will include a pic and there is alwase a bubble stuck in my res if i wiggle my rig so the bubble goes away but the next time i start my pc again its there AGAIN

I just had this read to me.... I dont even know.

[legopc]

Could you repeat that? :/

 

 

I just had this read to me.... I dont even know.

what??? is my grammar realy that bad?? 

[foxhound590]

kinda  :(

[PuNkPoEtS]

i tried disableling one fan and both fans and it did not matter but i still thing the flow is in some way restricted becus with my ek bay res there is a little flow indicator in there and its not spinning as fast as it did befor and and there is a tiny waterfall thingy in the res but water doesnt flow al the way... dont know how to explain it i will include a pic and there is alwase a bubble stuck in my res if i wiggle my rig so the bubble goes away but the next time i start my pc again its there AGAIN

 

i think he is trying to say he has tried disabling 1 and both fans but the flow is still restricted. the flow is not as good as it used to before the upgrade as the flow meter on the bay res isnt as fast as it used to be. 

 

 

i am still new to water cooling but i think you will have to cycle your pump and tilt your case to get rid of the air bubble out of the res as it is obstructing the flow and affecting your temps

[legopc]

i think he is trying to say he has tried disabling 1 and both fans but the flow is still restricted. the flow is not as good as it used to before the upgrade as the flow meter on the bay res isnt as fast as it used to be. 

 

 

i am still new to water cooling but i think you will have to cycle your pump and tilt your case to get rid of the air bubble out of the res as it is obstructing the flow and affecting your temps

YES thanks man i was about to correct the spelling but ok but that is what i am trying to say 

[BCMods]

Could you throw up (not literally) a few images of your setup? If your rads are orientated badly there's a chance the air is stuck in there for good unless you unscrew them.

[legopc]

Could you throw up (not literally) a few images of your setup? If your rads are orientated badly there's a chance the air is stuck in there for good unless you unscrew them.

i have become victem of my own stupidety the fan on the front rad wasnt even on... but i can already se an improvement in temp :P