First modern PC build. HELP!

[8uhbbhu8]

Ok so i'm forced into building a new PC for school ASAP. I really wanted to wait to see what AMD and INTEL were going to come out with next year in terms of new cpus. School has cut that plan up, shredded it, and then thrown it in the incinerator. I need a PC capable of running around 3 Virtual machines of windows 7, 8/8. and 10. Minimum 8GB of RAM with recommended 16GB. I also want to be able to do some gaming when i'm not studying but my HD7770 will suffice for a good while now. My budget is maxed at $1000 but i'd prefer to stay well under that. Also I want this thing to last for several years to come in terms of CPU and RAM. I'm not spending over $700 of my banks money for a machine that will only last me till next year. Any Ideas?

 

 

Adding one thing I forgot: I live in Canada so prices need to be in $CAD.

[Mew]

You can probably start with this. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($62.89 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.89 @ OutletPC) 

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $570.74

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-29 19:30 EDT-0400

[Morgan MLGman]

Something like this perhaps? The Xeon offers better value for money than the 4790.
I do recommend a GPU upgrade some time soon though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($116.91 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $859.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-29 19:30 EDT-0400

[cortexcortex]

Something like this perhaps? The Xeon offers better value for money than the 4790.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.89 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.89 @ OutletPC)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($144.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($116.91 @ Amazon)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $859.64

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-29 19:30 EDT-0400

gpu?

[Morgan MLGman]

gpu?

Did you even read the post?

[ThatOneRussian]

Id wait until next year with XPoint and the new AMD CPU's the 16 core ones. Im putting off buying my parts for those.

[stconquest]

$628, add any GPU you want:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Trion 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.00 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($76.16 @ Amazon)
Total: $617.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-29 19:56 EDT-0400

 

I could shave another $50 off of this (with no performance loss), but I liked the white, blue and black colours.    Also, the CPU cooler is for quiet operation.  Stock cooling would do just fine.

 

 

 

$561:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Trion 100 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($68.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($76.16 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Kingwin CF-012LBR 40.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($3.98 @ OutletPC)  <Front Intake
Case Fan: Kingwin CF-012LBR 40.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($3.98 @ OutletPC)  <Front Intake
Total: $551.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-29 20:00 EDT-0400

[8uhbbhu8]

So what the logic of going Xeon E3-1231 V3 instead of the i7 4790 other then price to performance? Also what about a large SSD instead of a smaller one and then a large HDD later or vise versa?

[stconquest]

So what the logic of going Xeon E3-1231 V3 instead of the i7 4790 other then price to performance? Also what about a large SSD instead of a smaller one and then a large HDD later or vise versa?

 

Sorry for the late response.

 

The Xeon is like having an i7 4770 (non-K), except that it does not have an iGPU.  It is mainly to save money while benefiting from the hyperthreading.  For gaming, it does as well as the i3/i5/i7s at the same clock.

 

120GB is not much.  With 240GB+ you can actually install games on it and not have to worry as much about filling it up.  You can always add mass storage later.  I run my PC without a mechanical drive.  It is quieter and cooler. 

[8uhbbhu8]

Ok so here's what I came up with after the advice you guys gave me. What do you think?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($432.78 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.50 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Case: Raidmax ATX-402WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $819.32

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 10:53 EDT-0400

 

All prices in $CAD

[8uhbbhu8]

OR What about this?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($469.99 @ Memory Express) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.05 @ Vuugo) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($107.97 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.50 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($88.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX) 

Total: $896.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 13:32 EDT-0400

[stconquest]

 

Ok so here's what I came up with after the advice you guys gave me. What do you think?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($432.78 @ DirectCanada)  <<<This is a K-Series CPU, you have an H97 motherboard next...

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ Newegg Canada) <<<You should have a Z-Series motherboard

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.50 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Case: Raidmax ATX-402WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX) <<<I hope you don't plan to EVER add a GPU

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $819.32

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 10:53 EDT-0400

 

All prices in $CAD

 

 

I'll refrain from picking on the next build you have... There are mistakes in your builds, some big ones.

 

$815 before taxes:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($339.98 @ shopRBC)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.98 @ NCIX)

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.95 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.39 @ Vuugo)

Case: Raidmax ATX-402WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ NCIX) <<This is more power than you will probably need, but the price is right and component quality is very good.

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada)

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $760.38

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 17:24 EDT-0400

 

 

$863 if you need an i7 for reasons you don't understand =)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($388.49 @ DirectCanada)  <<Notice this is NOT a K-Series?

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($74.98 @ NCIX)

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.95 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.39 @ Vuugo)

Case: Raidmax ATX-402WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ NCIX)

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada)

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $808.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 17:34 EDT-0400

 

 

Price goes up to $920 if you want easy overclocking on the CPU:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($432.78 @ DirectCanada)

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($82.99 @ NCIX)

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($104.95 @ NCIX)

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.39 @ Vuugo)

Case: Raidmax ATX-402WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ NCIX)

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada)

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $861.19

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 17:38 EDT-0400

[jimakos234]

 

Ok so here's what I came up with after the advice you guys gave me. What do you think?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($432.78 @ DirectCanada) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.50 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.98 @ DirectCanada) 

Case: Raidmax ATX-402WB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $819.32

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 10:53 EDT-0400

 

All prices in $CAD

 

You will need a z97 mobo in order to overclock. Also change that crappy psu

 

 

OR What about this?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($469.99 @ Memory Express) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.05 @ Vuugo) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($107.97 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.50 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($88.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ NCIX) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.98 @ NCIX) 

Total: $896.36

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-30 13:32 EDT-0400

 

You will need a z170 mobo in order to overclock and ddr4. Same as before goes for the psu

[8uhbbhu8]

So how about this: Yes i know the psu is over kill but its something that will hopefully last through a few builds in the future.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.04 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($88.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.00 @ shopRBC) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ NCIX) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $717.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-01 11:12 EDT-0400

[stconquest]

 

So how about this: Yes i know the psu is over kill but its something that will hopefully last through a few builds in the future.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($73.99 @ Newegg Canada) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.04 @ Amazon Canada) 

Storage: Corsair Force LS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($88.88 @ Canada Computers) 

Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.00 @ shopRBC) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ NCIX) 

Case Fan: Thermaltake CL-F011-PL12BL-A 41.0 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($6.05 @ DirectCanada) 

Total: $717.94

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-01 11:12 EDT-0400

 

 

That looks fine.

 

The Corsair Force LS is great on sequential read/write (large files), but is it sluggish with 4K random R/W (small files) speeds.  It is still really fast, when compared to HDDs.  Corsair customer service is really good.  I have a Force 3, and it has been replaced by Corsair with no issues to do so.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7337/corsair-force-ls-240gb-review

[BigDay]

do you really need an i7 or a xeon? can you get away with using a 6600k or 4690k instead? your budget is 1000 cad right?

[BigDay]

i added a 650w gold psu in case you want to get a new gpu that requires 600+w or has a pull of 250w at the minimum. this should give you enough headroom for an overclock on the gpu.

 

if you want to make it less expensive, change the psu to the EVGA 110-B2-0750-VR or the Antec HCG-620M

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Newegg Canada)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($71.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.75 @ shopRBC)
Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($67.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($115.76 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $915.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-01 16:06 EDT-0400

[stconquest]

i added a 650w gold psu in case you want to get a new gpu that requires 600+w or has a pull of 250w at the minimum. this should give you enough headroom for an overclock on the gpu.

 

if you want to make it less expensive, change the psu to the EVGA 110-B2-0750-VR or the Antec HCG-620M

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Newegg Canada)

CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($71.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.98 @ NCIX)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($100.99 @ NCIX)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($129.75 @ shopRBC)

Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($67.50 @ Vuugo)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($115.76 @ DirectCanada)

Total: $915.95

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-01 16:06 EDT-0400

 

Your build is compatible, but it is over $900.  The previous build was under $800.  There is no performance benefit between the two build, other than the SSD.  The EVO is faster than the Corsair LS.

 

Is there a reason you picked a $70 cooler for that Xeon?  The Xeon is fine on stock cooling, it is just louder.

[BigDay]

Your build is compatible, but it is over $900.  The previous build was under $800.  There is no performance benefit between the two build, other than the SSD.  The EVO is faster than the Corsair LS.

 

Is there a reason you picked a $70 cooler for that Xeon?  The Xeon is fine on stock cooling, it is just louder.

 

he could go with the 212 evo

 

i forgot about that one