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I am building a computer for my mom, I asked for suggestions before but now I know what my mom wants to use it for.

 

She told me that she wants to do office work(Microsoft Office), entertainment (watching movies, Hulu, Netflix, etc), storing photos, possible manipulating the photos for better looks, web surfing, solitaire, and possibly gaming (no joke) I don't know what kind of gaming. 

 

I am going to build it for her.  Don't want to build her a overblown system because she is not using it for Gaming or productivity work.

 

What would be a good cpu for her that wont be outdated quickly and can handle her wants?

 

Haswell?  Skylake?   I was looking at the i3 4170 but don't know if that will be good because it is only 2 core with hyperthreading.  

 

 

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The Core i3 is more processor than you'll ever need for basic computing and light gaming. And you have hyperthreading, so it performs better than a dual-core.

The AMD A8-7700K and A10-7850K have Radeon R7 graphics integrated into the CPU, so it'll do light gaming no problems and the quad core will help with the multitasking.

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The Core i3 is more processor than you'll ever need for basic computing and light gaming. And you have hyperthreading, so it performs better than a dual-core.

The AMD A8-7700K and A10-7850K have Radeon R7 graphics integrated into the CPU, so it'll do light gaming no problems and the quad core will help with the multitasking.

 

I thought the APU's weren't really that good? I want the pc to last at least 2 years and not be outdated so quickly.

 

Would a i5 be over kill?   What would most people use a i5 for besides gaming?

 

thinking of going Mini iTX or Micro ATX, which is best?

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I thought the APU's weren't really that good? I want the pc to last at least 2 years and not be outdated so quickly.

 

Would a i5 be over kill?   What would most people use a i5 for besides gaming?

 

thinking of going Mini iTX or Micro ATX, which is best?

 

APU's  are good, just don't expect massive gaming on demanding titles.

 

If you're going ITX get a Node 202.

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 "The Dead Legacy" (Since: XX.XX.2010) || CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 2.93 GHz || HSF: Stock Intel HSF || MB: MSI P35 Neo 2 LGA 775 || RAM: Kingston/Samsung/PQi 1 + 2x1 + 2 GB DDR2 667 MHz || GPU: Palit NVidia GeForce 9800 GT 1 GB GDDR3 || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 80 GB (OS Drive) / 1 TB (Main Storage) SATA II/III || HDD: Hitachi 320 GB (Backup Storage) IDE || ODD: LG DVD-RW (KIA) IDE || PSU: Generic PSU 500W Non-Modular (Korean) ATX || Case: Generic Case (No Fans) ATX Mid-Tower || Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 12" LED 1280x1024p || Speaker: Creative SBS 240 2.1 || KB: Generic Gaming (Full, No Macro) Keyboard || Mouse: T-REX Evolve Gaming Multi-Color Modded (RED LED Permanent) || Mousepad: Generic (Small) Black 

 "The Chimera's Lair" (Since: 01.18.2016) || CPU: Intel Core™ i7-6700K 4.0 GHz (4.5 GHz OC) Skylake || HSF: NZXT Kraken X61 CLC || MB: MSI Z170A Gaming M5 LGA1151 || RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Red 2x8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz || GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming Edition 4 GB GDDR5 || SSD: Sandisk SSD Plus 240 GB (OS Drive) SATA III || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2  TB (Mass Storage) SATA III / Seagate Barracuda 1  TB (Games Storage) SATA III  || PSU: Seasonic M12II Evo 620W Fully-Modular ATX || Case: NZXT S340 Black/Red ATX Mid-Tower || Monitor: ASUS VC239H 23"  Frameless AH-IPS LED 1920x1080p (Not Yet Bought)

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APU of some kind what ever fits your budget! :D

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I thought the APU's weren't really that good? I want the pc to last at least 2 years and not be outdated so quickly.

 

Would a i5 be over kill?   What would most people use a i5 for besides gaming?

 

thinking of going Mini iTX or Micro ATX, which is best?

 

I can say for 100% certainty that a Core i5 is overkill for an office machine.

A Core i3 is overkill, let alone a Core i5, and it will last 10 years no problems.

 

I've already built and used a MicroATX Core i3 + SSD machine for office purposes and it loads up stuff damn quick that your reaction time is slower than the loading time.

 

I don't recommend Mini-ITX for a budget rig because I've tried that and they tend to not be as good in value, and MicroATX is small enough anyway.

The reason I mentioned the AMD APU's is because they have better inbuilt graphics, but the Core i3 is better for outright performance.

 

Go for a MicroATX case (with decent PSU included), Intel Core i3 CPU, H81 motherboard, 8GB DDR3 RAM and a Samsung 120GB EVO SSD.

Very inexpensive, but very quick and will last for a very long time.

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I can say for 100% certainty that a Core i5 is overkill for an office machine.

A Core i3 is overkill, let alone a Core i5, and it will last 10 years no problems.

 

I've already built and used a MicroATX Core i3 + SSD machine for office purposes and it loads up stuff damn quick that your reaction time is slower than the loading time.

 

I don't recommend Mini-ITX for a budget rig because I've tried that and they tend to not be as good in value, and MicroATX is small enough anyway.

The reason I mentioned the AMD APU's is because they have better inbuilt graphics, but the Core i3 is better for outright performance.

 

Go for a MicroATX case (with decent PSU included), Intel Core i3 CPU, H81 motherboard, 8GB DDR3 RAM and a Samsung 120GB EVO SSD.

Very inexpensive, but very quick and will last for a very long time.

Thanks

 

I have a 120 GB Samsung EVO 840.  Is this good?   I will add a 1tb drive because my mom wants to use the computer for entertainment purposes also.

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Thanks

 

I have a 120 GB Samsung EVO 840.  Is this good?   I will add a 1tb drive because my mom wants to use the computer for entertainment purposes also.

Yep.

 

It's Samsung.

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 "The Chimera's Lair" (Since: 01.18.2016) || CPU: Intel Core™ i7-6700K 4.0 GHz (4.5 GHz OC) Skylake || HSF: NZXT Kraken X61 CLC || MB: MSI Z170A Gaming M5 LGA1151 || RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V Red 2x8 GB DDR4 2400 MHz || GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming Edition 4 GB GDDR5 || SSD: Sandisk SSD Plus 240 GB (OS Drive) SATA III || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2  TB (Mass Storage) SATA III / Seagate Barracuda 1  TB (Games Storage) SATA III  || PSU: Seasonic M12II Evo 620W Fully-Modular ATX || Case: NZXT S340 Black/Red ATX Mid-Tower || Monitor: ASUS VC239H 23"  Frameless AH-IPS LED 1920x1080p (Not Yet Bought)

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