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So I am compiling a part list for my dad. He is a chemistry professor and this will be his work rig so basically no gaming will occur on this build. This is mostly for dealing with data relating to his classes and whatnot. The University that he works at is supplying him with $1000 for this build. Here are the parts that I have:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/botball/saved/Dqq2FT

 

Suggestions??? 

Current Rig: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3, ASRock H97 Pro4 ATX mobo, 8GB 1600 MHz G.Skill Ripjaws, GTX 970, Corsair 550W, Kingston 120GB SSD & WD Black 1TB HDD, NZXT H440 Case.

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Extra space at the end of the link. Check my signature for a link. much better value Ill make a build for u hang tight. @BOTBALL dont forget to follow your topics.

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A build on the lines of this would be great for him. I assume this will be in a classroom so it should be silent. 

 

 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($309.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1037.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Not sure what kind of power he needs. This is probably over kill.

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A build on the lines of this would be great for him. I assume this will be in a classroom so it should be silent. 

 

 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($309.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1037.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Not sure what kind of power he needs. This is probably over kill.

 

No, his office is far away from the classroom. Noise is sort of irrelevant, but nonetheless, I am trying to compile a relatively silent build for him

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No, his office is far away from the classroom. Noise is sort of irrelevant, but nonetheless, I am trying to compile a relatively silent build for him

What kind of power does he need? 

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A build on the lines of this would be great for him. I assume this will be in a classroom so it should be silent. 

 

 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($309.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1037.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Not sure what kind of power he needs. This is probably over kill.

 

Just one thing... you need DDR4 for Z170? :P

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Just one thing... you need DDR4 for Z170? :P

I had a 4690k in there at first. Then I goofed sry. 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $433.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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That's more than enough for basic use.

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No, his office is far away from the classroom. Noise is sort of irrelevant, but nonetheless, I am trying to compile a relatively silent build for him

I would for for something like this if he does not need all of the 1k to go to power. IMO perirperals will make his day 1345345% better. 

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($40.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Das Keyboard 4 Professional Wired Standard Keyboard  ($169.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $910.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($41.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $433.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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That's more than enough for basic use.

Not his $. Use it all!

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A build on the lines of this would be great for him. I assume this will be in a classroom so it should be silent. 

 

 
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card  ($309.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Micro Center) 
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer  ($11.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1037.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-09 16:12 EDT-0400
 
 
 
Not sure what kind of power he needs. This is probably over kill.

 

He shouldn't need one of the new skylake processors. I think a 4690k would be fine for him?

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Since it doesn't sound like he'll be doing anything really intensive, he doesn't really need a gpu. An AMD apu would probably be plenty,

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.67 @ Amazon)
Total: $444.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Although if you want an Intel build,

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($22.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.67 @ Amazon)
Total: $621.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Nah, np. Just don't want people to buy stuff that doesn't work together :)

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He shouldn't need one of the new skylake processors. I think a 4690k would be fine for him?

its out and about the same price. why not? But i dumbed with the ddr3 with skylake

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its out and about the same price. why not? But i dumbed with the ddr3 with skylake

I thought DDR3 was compatible with skylake as well as DDR4.

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   CPU: Pentium G3258 @ 4.5GHz | GPU: GTX 760 reference | PSU: Corsair RM750 | Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V | Motherboard: Gigabyte B85M D3H | Case: NZXT S340 White | RAM: 8GB EVO Potenza @ 1600MHz | Storage: 3TB Seagate HDD, 60GB OCZ SSD, 620GB Toshiba HDD | Mouse: Steelseries Rival @1000 CPi |  OS: Windows 10 Pro | Phone: iPhone 6S 16GB  
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CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Asus H97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($136.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.26 @ Mwave)

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $965.12

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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ITX will allow the thing to sit on his desk easily, always convenient. Much better PSU, double the RAM because, well, you were given $1000, make the most of it. Slightly faster HDD, same reason. Added an optical drive because there will always be situations where you might need one. They are so handy. Also added a better cooled 750Ti, 2 fans vs 1.

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I thought DDR3 was compatible with skylake as well as DDR4.

Ddr3L and ddr4 only

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($237.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: Asus H97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.95 @ SuperBiiz) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($136.99 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.26 @ Mwave) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ SuperBiiz) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $965.12Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-09 16:22 EDT-0400

ITX will allow the thing to sit on his desk easily, always convenient. Much better PSU, double the RAM because, well, you were given $1000, make the most of it. Slightly faster HDD, same reason. Added an optical drive because there will always be situations where you might need one. They are so handy. Also added a better cooled 750Ti, 2 fans vs 1.

A 750 ti and 1k is really bad.

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If you really wanna fill the $1000 budget,

 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($251.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($176.56 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.67 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  ($17.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $948.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Went with the new I5-6600k and Asus motherboard. 8gb of ddr4 2400mhz ram.

I say 250gb should be plenty, but with the room you could just get a 500gb ssd. In both cases he shouldn't need a hdd.

With simple gpu.

Also put in a disc drive since he's a professor, who knows maybe it'll get used

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($251.98 @ Newegg)

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($120.96 @ Amazon)

Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($203.98 @ Newegg)

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $998.38

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-09 16:39 EDT-0400

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