Logitech mouse owners, need help

[Tech Lover]

hi. yesterday i got my G402 Hyperion Fury mouse. its good. but there is one issue im facing, i play on usually high DPIs and the lift off distance of the mouse, is too much. like even if im lifting it like 5 cm, its still moving my cursor. is there some way i can reduce the lift off distance? there is no such option in the logitech gaming suite. 

 

is it possible?

[ThatOneGuyThatFlew]

yes get a generic dell mouse you wont have that problem then. as you have to drag it across your whole desk to get it to move 5cm

[SirRoderick]

You cannot customise it, but it SHOULD be much much lower, around 1mm standard. If you are actually experiencing this I would talk to Logitech support.

[Tech Lover]

You cannot customise it, but it SHOULD be much much lower, around 1mm standard. If you are actually experiencing this I would talk to Logitech support.

wow this is a shame cause i can change that on my A4tech mouse, this is stupid of logitech not to include such an important thing

[TwOne]

I can confirm it's not customisable, but it's not supposed to be 5cm. My sample has a lift-off of roughly 2mm (give or take about 1mm). Maybe RMA your mouse. Logitech customer support is not going to be the best customer support, but you can always give it a try.

 

EDIT: The lift-off distance was measured at 1000dpi, and I never play at more than that.

[SirRoderick]

wow this is a shame cause i can change that on my A4tech mouse, this is stupid of logitech not to include such an important thing

Frankly I cannot fathom why I'd want a higher distance. I really don't care

[Tech Lover]

Frankly I cannot fathom why I'd want a higher distance. I really don't care

Because i have finger grip and honestly saying, i really dont like this mouse at all! yes its accurate, VERY, but for my grip style its not that comfy. im already having some fatigue after 10 min o of gaming.

 

i wish i had gone for G303... and NO i cant return it or RMA it i got it imported here!

 

have to sell it may be:(

 

[AuraDesru]

Because i have finger grip and honestly saying, i really dont like this mouse at all! yes its accurate, VERY, but for my grip style its not that comfy. im already having some fatigue after 10 min o of gaming.

 

i wish i had gone for G303... and NO i cant return it or RMA it i got it imported here!

 

have to sell it may be:(

 

 

Yeah, I was about to question why you didnt look at the g100s or the g303.. The LOD should be around 1.0-1.8mm on the G402 on a cloth pad. You can always try the tape method to lower the LOD.

[Tech Lover]

Yeah, I was about to question why you didnt look at the g100s or the g303.. The LOD should be around 1.0-1.8mm on the G402 on a cloth pad. You can always try the tape method to lower the LOD.

yesterday i went to a friend's friend home (friendception) and i used 303... OH MY GAWD! that is my BAE! i always loved very light mouse and that thing is REAL SHIZ! but i dont know if its placebo or not, i found that not so accurate. 402 is like the BOSS of accurate mice  and i have used quite a lot of mice. 

 

it felt a little too lighter to me as well. thats really ok cause i will get used to the lightness over time for sure, but i m not sure about the accuracy. may be it was because it was a little old. 

but i could definitely tell the difference between 303 and my 402

[AuraDesru]

yesterday i went to a friend's friend home (friendception) and i used 303... OH MY GAWD! that is my BAE! i always loved very light mouse and that thing is REAL SHIZ! but i dont know if its placebo or not, i found that not so accurate. 402 is like the BOSS of accurate mice  and i have used quite a lot of mice. 

 

it felt a little too lighter to me as well. thats really ok cause i will get used to the lightness over time for sure, but i m not sure about the accuracy. may be it was because it was a little old. 

but i could definitely tell the difference between 303 and my 402

The only reason you prefer the G303 is because it's shape is better...

Both mice track flawlessly to be hones with you. PMW3366 may be a advance sensor with surface tuning and all of that gimmick. However it is still as accurate as the AM010. Despite having different fps for each sensor. I believe the PMW3366 hass a dyanmic range of fps varying on different sensor. While the AM010 has the fps of 3000-4000... I know the old WMO mice had 12000 fps on there mice.

[NiTRATe]

Idk if you are still here and this will sound VERY stupid, but hear me out because I've done this for a month... The only consistent way of how to lower your LOD on this mouse is to find some translucent scotch tape. Using tape that is too clear will make the sensor go straight through and using black tape will just block the laser. Reply to confirm it works

Edit : cover the entire sensor, it may scrape the mousepad at first so you will have to find a way to prevent that.

[woll3]

The only reason you prefer the G303 is because it's shape is better...

Both mice track flawlessly to be hones with you. PMW3366 may be a advance sensor with surface tuning and all of that gimmick. However it is still as accurate as the AM010. Despite having different fps for each sensor. I believe the PMW3366 hass a dyanmic range of fps varying on different sensor. While the AM010 has the fps of 3000-4000...

 

Actually i find it pretty easy to differentiate between AM010 and 3366, AM010 is really good at lower speeds and low cpi(i actually prefer it over a lot of other stuff at that speed), but the higher you go with both, the more you notice the difference in capability.

 

 I know the old WMO mice had 12000 fps on there mice.

 

*9000

[AuraDesru]

Actually i find it pretty easy to differentiate between AM010 and 3366, AM010 is really good at lower speeds and low cpi(i actually prefer it over a lot of other stuff at that speed), but the higher you go with both, the more you notice the difference in capability.

 

 

*9000

I'm assuming you use low dpi if you get a fps mouse

Cpate said that the mouse was designed for low dpi and low sens gamers. The higher you go on the AM010, the jitter starts to become a real problem above 2000 dpi on the AM010. I don't remember the jitter on the PMW3366.

 

The only time i've noticed a difference from going from 400 dpi on each of the mice I bought was from the deathadder chroma to my FK1. 

Avago 3988 sensor just feels really filtered on the chroma. I don't get the raw tracking that I do on the G402. I would've kept my G402 if they used lighter materials and removed the sniper button. (Removing the DPI buttons would be even nicer)

Logitech's idea of a fps mouse is just wrong and appeals too much to the casual audience. 

 

Currently using the G303 and have a FK1 as my backup. 

[woll3]

The only time i've noticed a difference from going from 400 dpi on each of the mice I bought was from the deathadder chroma to my FK1. 

Avago 3988 sensor just feels really filtered on the chroma. I don't get the raw tracking that I do on the G402.

 

To be fair, Chroma´s 3989 is imo the best out of the A9800 bunch, then again AM010 and 3366 play a somewhat different game considering Hirarchy and Origin, being completely new, but AM010´s lack of FPS is noticeable at medium speeds to me, so at lower speeds i actually prefer AM010, but the 1m/s+ Area i prefer 3366, and above 3m/s 402´s  Gyro/Accelerometer combo isnt beatable, i actually also prefer 3988 over AM010 at medium speeds because of that, on the other Hand 3310 is out of the question for me due to Variance and medium FPS, would rather take 3050 or 3090 instead.

 

Basic "Jitter free capability thumb rule" in my opinion is Base CPI*2, altough 3366 can definiutely do more than that.

 

 

 I don't get the raw tracking that I do on the G402. I would've kept my G402 if they used lighter materials and removed the sniper button. (Removing the DPI buttons would be even nicer)

Logitech's idea of a fps mouse is just wrong and appeals too much to the casual audience. 

 

 

To be fair again, it is lighter than its predecessor, and they also have to make somewhat of a compromise in that regard, all in all its a step up from the MX Design imo.

[AuraDesru]

To be fair, Chroma´s 3989 is imo the best out of the A9800 bunch, then again AM010 and 3366 play a somewhat different game considering Hirarchy and Origin, being completely new, but AM010´s lack of FPS is noticeable at medium speeds to me, so at lower speeds i actually prefer AM010, but the 1m/s+ Area i prefer 3366, and above 3m/s 402´s  Gyro/Accelerometer combo isnt beatable, i actually also prefer 3988 over AM010 at medium speeds because of that, on the other Hand 3310 is out of the question for me due to Variance and medium FPS, would rather take 3050 or 3090 instead.

 

Basic "Jitter free capability thumb rule" in my opinion is Base CPI*2, altough 3366 can definiutely do more than that.

 

 

To be fair again, it is lighter than its predecessor, and they also have to make somewhat of a compromise in that regard, all in all its a step up from the MX Design imo.

I disagree with the design

MX518 or G400 design was classic and felt right compared to the G402. A lot of people liked the design and wished it would come back. 

To be honest though, I would probably take a 3310 finalmouse/zowie for all around. I think it's more about design than tracking because I could make a lot of flick shots in CS GO with the G402. Failed to comfortably track heads while they moved compared to something like a steelseries rival, fk1, g303, and etc.. 

It's all really personal preference. I'm curious to see finalmouse's implementation with the custom 3310 lens. I don't have the money to get one neither am I interested in the shape of the finalmouse. Though it ressembles the old MX518 shape in a way.

[woll3]

 

It's all really personal preference. I'm curious to see finalmouse's implementation with the custom 3310 lens.

 

There is no custom lens because they are liars, its standard 2120 Lens.

 

 

I disagree with the design

MX518 or G400 design was classic and felt right compared to the G402. A lot of people liked the design and wished it would come back. 

 

Well, they got rid of the ridge which opened it up to a lot more people, not to mention the sales.

 

[AuraDesru]

There is no custom lens because they are liars, its standard 2120 Lens.

 

 

 

Well, they got rid of the ridge which opened it up to a lot more people, not to mention the sales.

 

Still didn't beat the G302 

I found was really odd because the diamond shape is really hated more than liked.

 

Where is your source on the lens? It would be false marketing if they didn't add there own gimmicks to the lens.

A lot of people said that the 3310 on the FM feels really refined and raw compared to other 3310 mice. 

[woll3]

Still didn't beat the G302 

I found was really odd because the diamond shape is really hated more than liked.

 

Where is your source on the lens? It would be false marketing if they didn't add there own gimmicks to the lens.

A lot of people said that the 3310 on the FM feels really refined and raw compared to other 3310 mice. 

 

The Diamond shape isnt hated in the grand scheme of things, some people are just mad because they cant use it.

 

I have seen the lens, so i am the source, as for performance, there is only so much that can be achieved with 3310 and the low weight plays a big part in people´s perception of responsiveness.

[AuraDesru]

The Diamond shape isnt hated in the grand scheme of things, some people are just mad because they cant use it.

 

I have seen the lens, so i am the source, as for performance, there is only so much that can be achieved with 3310 and the low weight plays a big part in people´s perception of responsiveness.

It would be basically the same thing. Hate,dislike 

People rather prefer the G100S shape over the G303 for an ambi mouse

 

Not very trusted source but whatever

[Tech Lover]

It would be basically the same thing. Hate,dislike 

People rather prefer the G100S shape over the G303 for an ambi mouse

 

Not very trusted source but whatever

 

The Diamond shape isnt hated in the grand scheme of things, some people are just mad because they cant use it.

 

I have seen the lens, so i am the source, as for performance, there is only so much that can be achieved with 3310 and the low weight plays a big part in people´s perception of responsiveness.

 

i see u guys discussing over which SENSOR is better and which one is not. well i can assure u one thing for sure, i have used DA, 502, 402,302,100S,m65,kova and taipan to name a few among the ones considered to be THE TOP DOGS in gaming mice industry, and i can ASSURE u that i have not found anything as accurate as 402 and 502, PERIOD!

 

G502 is heavy for me, like quite heavy, for my use. 

 

and btw, the issue was the cord, not the mouse, the issue of LOD is fixed its just normal. the cord was coming in the way. i have a hole in my table, its actually a glass table, and i have my QCK MBR mat placed on top of it. now as the cord is not braided, it did not stick inside that tiny hole. so it was not properly snug inside the hole. ghetto solution when u dont have braided cord! shame for Logitech but meh... whatever.

 

 

but again to the main point, G402 feels like its my hand moving not the mouse! i cant even explain how impressed from this mouse precision and accuracy. its really really that great! 

my issue is again, a little weird design of the mouse, because where i sit and game, my hand has to be a little raised like 2 inches. and i always keep the mouse at 50 degree to the monitor. and the shape of mouse is like its going to right, where i try to turn it to left. yea its weird, but thats my only complain. 

 

i will keep it for now, lets see what happens. i will see if it works for me. im already feeling much more accurate in game.

2 things can drastically improve it OVERALL and these are:

 

1- if they braid the cable, it would make so much difference!trust me!

2- if they remove or at least change the material of the DPI buttons, they always slip the mouse from hand. instead of shinny glossy shitty plastic, if they make it from same rubberized material which is below it, BOOM it would be night and day difference.

 

and one more thing, make it a little lighter, its currently 108 grams for mouse, 90-95grams would be PERFECT for this mouse.

 

PS: and PLS FOR LOVE OF GOD, change the freaking scroll wheel its, HORRENDOUS! its a slap in face of buyer, its cheap, it looks and feels fake and well, its fucking annoying!  change it FFS!

[TwOne]

i see u guys discussing over which SENSOR is better and which one is not. well i can assure u one thing for sure, i have used DA, 502, 402,302,100S,m65,kova and taipan to name a few among the ones considered to be THE TOP DOGS in gaming mice industry, and i can ASSURE u that i have not found anything as accurate as 402 and 502, PERIOD!

 

G502 is heavy for me, like quite heavy, for my use. 

 

and btw, the issue was the cord, not the mouse, the issue of LOD is fixed its just normal. the cord was coming in the way. i have a hole in my table, its actually a glass table, and i have my QCK MBR mat placed on top of it. now as the cord is not braided, it did not stick inside that tiny hole. so it was not properly snug inside the hole. ghetto solution when u dont have braided cord! shame for Logitech but meh... whatever.

 

 

but again to the main point, G402 feels like its my hand moving not the mouse! i cant even explain how impressed from this mouse precision and accuracy. its really really that great! 

my issue is again, a little weird design of the mouse, because where i sit and game, my hand has to be a little raised like 2 inches. and i always keep the mouse at 50 degree to the monitor. and the shape of mouse is like its going to right, where i try to turn it to left. yea its weird, but thats my only complain. 

 

i will keep it for now, lets see what happens. i will see if it works for me. im already feeling much more accurate in game.

2 things can drastically improve it OVERALL and these are:

 

1- if they braid the cable, it would make so much difference!trust me!

2- if they remove or at least change the material of the DPI buttons, they always slip the mouse from hand. instead of shinny glossy shitty plastic, if they make it from same rubberized material which is below it, BOOM it would be night and day difference.

 

and one more thing, make it a little lighter, its currently 108 grams for mouse, 90-95grams would be PERFECT for this mouse.

 

PS: and PLS FOR LOVE OF GOD, change the freaking scroll wheel its, HORRENDOUS! its a slap in face of buyer, its cheap, it looks and feels fake and well, its fucking annoying!  change it FFS!

As an owner of the G402, I can agree with quite a few things. A better cable is a must, it caused problems for me in the past. The DPI button is slippery and it's annoying because I have a big thumb and the most comfortable position is to rest it on the DPI button. This makes it harder to grip well. 

I also agree on the weight, it's a tad too heavy for me, once again when lifting the mouse along with the DPI button causes less grip. 

 

And, a thing I noticed with my G402, is sometimes at random, when I move the mouse it spazzes out, sometimes it does like a 180 in the middle of the battle (on 400DPI) I thought it was because of dirt in the lens or lint on my mousepad, but it actually was the mouse. This is really strange because of the sensor's design. I will see if this continues, if it does, I will return the mouse for something else. 

 

Also, the scroll wheel is personal opinion. I actually like the smooth rubber scroll wheel. Logitech did disappoint me a little with this mid-range mouse.

[woll3]

 

Not very trusted source but whatever

 

lol

 

 

 i have not found anything as accurate as 402 and 502, PERIOD!

 

 

Well,  within its range i actually prefer ONS over 3366.

 

[AuraDesru]

i see u guys discussing over which SENSOR is better and which one is not. well i can assure u one thing for sure, i have used DA, 502, 402,302,100S,m65,kova and taipan to name a few among the ones considered to be THE TOP DOGS in gaming mice industry, and i can ASSURE u that i have not found anything as accurate as 402 and 502, PERIOD!

 

G502 is heavy for me, like quite heavy, for my use. 

 

and btw, the issue was the cord, not the mouse, the issue of LOD is fixed its just normal. the cord was coming in the way. i have a hole in my table, its actually a glass table, and i have my QCK MBR mat placed on top of it. now as the cord is not braided, it did not stick inside that tiny hole. so it was not properly snug inside the hole. ghetto solution when u dont have braided cord! shame for Logitech but meh... whatever.

 

 

but again to the main point, G402 feels like its my hand moving not the mouse! i cant even explain how impressed from this mouse precision and accuracy. its really really that great! 

my issue is again, a little weird design of the mouse, because where i sit and game, my hand has to be a little raised like 2 inches. and i always keep the mouse at 50 degree to the monitor. and the shape of mouse is like its going to right, where i try to turn it to left. yea its weird, but thats my only complain. 

 

i will keep it for now, lets see what happens. i will see if it works for me. im already feeling much more accurate in game.

2 things can drastically improve it OVERALL and these are:

 

1- if they braid the cable, it would make so much difference!trust me!

2- if they remove or at least change the material of the DPI buttons, they always slip the mouse from hand. instead of shinny glossy shitty plastic, if they make it from same rubberized material which is below it, BOOM it would be night and day difference.

 

and one more thing, make it a little lighter, its currently 108 grams for mouse, 90-95grams would be PERFECT for this mouse.

 

PS: and PLS FOR LOVE OF GOD, change the freaking scroll wheel its, HORRENDOUS! its a slap in face of buyer, its cheap, it looks and feels fake and well, its fucking annoying!  change it FFS!

lol?

G100S, G302, G402 use the same sensor and yet you don't feel they're as accurate or the same?

 

Suprised you haven't tested out the old WMO 1.1 and 3.0 for TOP DOGS OF THE GAMING MICE...

Considering everyone loves the shit out of mice because of the sensor and shape.

 

@TwOne

 

You're using G402 at 4000 dpi????

You have a faulty sensor and you shouldn't be using the G402 past 2000 dpi.. The Jitter is unreal

[Dubesta11]

hi. yesterday i got my G402 Hyperion Fury mouse. its good. but there is one issue im facing, i play on usually high DPIs and the lift off distance of the mouse, is too much. like even if im lifting it like 5 cm, its still moving my cursor. is there some way i can reduce the lift off distance? there is no such option in the logitech gaming suite. 

 

is it possible?

 

Lower your DPI and increase ingame sensitivity? Or get used to lower DPI, because thats how professionals play?

[Tech Lover]

lol?

G100S, G302, G402 use the same sensor and yet you don't feel they're as accurate or the same?

 

Suprised you haven't tested out the old WMO 1.1 and 3.0 for TOP DOGS OF THE GAMING MICE...

Considering everyone loves the shit out of mice because of the sensor and shape.

 

@TwOne

 

You're using G402 at 4000 dpi????

You have a faulty sensor and you shouldn't be using the G402 past 2000 dpi.. The Jitter is unreal

sorry to say it but i feel like you are one of those "Spec Officer" who thinks certain specs would be better off than others... 

 

its mouse man. come one, u give a person a million $ mouse, with 1billion % accuracy and if he/she does not know how to use it, or cant get used to it, its useless for him.

 

i have already said it, i always liked lighter mice, i got 402 cause i really liked the design in the beginning. Nothing in this world is perfect. u just need to get used to stuff.

i have already got quite used to this mouse and i really like it now. 

 

i have some issues but i cant do much about them. i had an issue with LOD but got solved with simple ghetto trick. i can recommend this mouse over anything, especially Deathadder cause that just over priced and just overrated.