Xeon gaming pc build?

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i'm wanting to upgrade my current system to something with a bit more beef, but can't afford an i7 build. i'm currently using an AMD based 6-core machine, but am thinking of getting the 8350, or something like the i7's (quadcore, 8thread). i learned that the Xeon E3's can fit just fine in a z77 board, but i haven't really heard anything about gaming on one. i plan on just swapping the mobo & cpu in my current system, but keeping the rest as is. i do not plan to OC anything, it's WAY too hot where i live, and it would probably melt, or explode if i did. 

if anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Current specs:

     FX-6200 DerpDozer cpu w/ Corsair H55 cooler

     AsRock Extreme3 990fx board

     2 660ti's in sli (1 pny, 1 evga, matched clocks)

     Thermaltake 850w 80+ psu

     16gb HyperX blu @ 1600

     OCZ Vertex 4 128gb ssd

     3tb WD Black drive @ 7200

     and a really expensive cup holder. (blu-ray drive)

 

some questions i have:

     Does anyone have any experience with xeon gaming?

     Does not using a Server/Workstation mobo cripple my performance in any way?

     If i needed the server board, is it SLI compatible? (everything i've read only mentions quadro's)

     With the Dual Lan on server boards, can i plug 2 cords in the wall and get faster interwebz?

     

i'm pretty sure i left a few things out and also have more questions i just couldn't think of them atm..

     Thank you :D

     

     

     

[ObeseWalrus]

¨Don't game on Xeons, they're server CPU's. Get an i5 4670K for gaming instead

[Samdb]

Don't game on Xeons, get an i5.

[ObeseWalrus]

I made a PcPartPicker gaming build with an i5

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1kYhD

[MrSuperb]

Those E3 Xeons are basicaly i5/i7s ... no unlocked clock multiplier tough. ;)

[WoodenMarker]

Is the system just for gaming? If so, get a 4670k.

 

The Ivy bridge xeon is basically a locked multiplier 4770 without integrated graphics and doesn't come with a stock fan. It's nice if you need the threads but not as optimal as other choices for gaming. It works just as well as an i7 clocked to the same speed would though. You do not need a 'server mobo'--there's not really such a thing. A server is just a computer you make to be one and you call it a server. Also, you shouldn't get a z77 mobo with a xeon since the z77 mobo is for overclocking and the xeon is not. You should be looking at b75's and h77's instead. 

The reason why the things you read only mentions quadros. It's because xeons are good for workstation related things for their price and less for gaming.

 

My recommendation regardless of whether you're just gaming or not is to just get a 8320 or 8350 and an aftermarket cooler. Depending on your plans and your tastes, I'd suggest a Hyper 212 Evo, NH-D14, or h100i. 

[Anubikai]

Just get the 8350....you'll be better off with that....

 

-Anubikai

[MrAlexOneill]

8350 ftw. Xeon bottlenecks. Elric from techoftomorrow used to have a system called "Red Dawn" with 2 Xeon's and 2 680's. The Xeons bottlenecked his benchmarks and gaming

[MrSuperb]

Is the system just for gaming? If so, get a 4670k.

 

The Ivy bridge xeon is basically a locked multiplier 4770 without integrated graphics and doesn't come with a stock fan. It's nice if you need the threads but not as optimal as other choices for gaming. It works just as well as an i7 clocked to the same speed would though. You do not need a 'server mobo'--there's not really such a thing. A server is just a computer you make to be one and you call it a server. Also, you shouldn't get a z77 mobo with a xeon since the z77 mobo is for overclocking and the xeon is not. You should be looking at b75's and h77's instead. 

The reason why the things you read only mentions quadros. It's because xeons are good for workstation related things for their price and less for gaming.

 

My recommendation regardless of whether you're just gaming or not is to just get a 8320 or 8350 and an aftermarket cooler. Depending on your plans and your tastes, I'd suggest a Hyper 212 Evo, NH-D14, or h100i. 

 

There are E3 Xeons with integrated graphics as well.

Z87 for the new v3 or Z77 for the Ivy bridge v2 Xeon E3s is perfectly fine.

 

The E3 Xeon series aren't "real" Xeons ;)

[MrSuperb]

Guys there is (almost) no differnce between a Xeon E3-1245V3 and a Core i7-4770 (without k)!

[WoodenMarker]

There are E3 Xeons with integrated graphics as well.

Z87 for the new v3 or Z77 for the Ivy bridge v2 Xeon E3s is perfectly fine.

 

The E3 Xeon series aren't "real" Xeons ;)

They are 'real'--just not as badass as the ones that high five each other in dual socket motherboards.

[WoodenMarker]

Guys there is (almost) no differnce between a Xeon E3-1245V3 and a Core i7-4770 (without k)!

Turbo boost and integrated graphics.

That specific xeon isn't exactly a good deal. A 4770k isn't even that much more expensive. 

The xeons you want to be looking at are ones like the E3-1220 V3 to save money and still get the threads: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907

[MrSuperb]

Turbo boost and integrated graphics.

That specific xeon isn't exactly a good deal. A 4770k isn't even that much more expensive. 

The xeons you want to be looking at are ones like the E3-1220 V3 to save money and still get the threads: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907

The 1245v3 has booth ... HD P4600 and turbo boost (and is cheaper than the i7 4770 - at least here)

The only real difference is that the E3 can handle EEC Ram modules (and the 100Mhz less on the Turbo Boost ... i am pretty sure you can change that in your uefi anyways ...)

 

 

They are 'real'--just not as badass as the ones that high five each other in dual socket motherboards.

There are also single processor E5s, aswell as quad processor compatible ones ... By "not real" i meant, that those Xeon E3s are basiclay relabled i5/i7s (with some features enabled)

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it's not just specifically for gaming, i do whole lot of multi-tasking with my system. i.e. running Battlefield 3, while talking on skype, Razer comms, and teamspeak, while streaming on xplit, running pandora, and around 70 or so tabs on chrome on 4 different screans. i'd like to have more than just a quadcore chip. which is why i'm considering the xeons cause they're hyperthreaded. i don't want/can't have haswell chips, cause they run too hot for my liking. really, i

[ET_CaughDrop]

i also have a 24/7 minecraft server running as well....

[ET_CaughDrop]

and for clarification, i was eyeing the Xeon 1230v2 ivy bridge version.

[WoodenMarker]

it's not just specifically for gaming, i do whole lot of multi-tasking with my system. i.e. running Battlefield 3, while talking on skype, Razer comms, and teamspeak, while streaming on xplit, running pandora, and around 70 or so tabs on chrome on 4 different screans. i'd like to have more than just a quadcore chip. which is why i'm considering the xeons cause they're hyperthreaded. i don't want/can't have haswell chips, cause they run too hot for my liking. really, i

Haswell chips only run hot when overclocking and are about as warm as Ivy chips. I have a 3570k at 4.6ghz myself. It's not that bad.

Get a 4770k, 8320/8350, or cheaper variant of a haswell xeon.

[WoodenMarker]

and for clarification, i was eyeing the Xeon 1230v2 ivy bridge version.

It's decent but the Haswell option isn't that much more expensive for a decent boost in performance.

[Lil Chillbil]

Not Worth it, a xeon is just stuipid get an i5 and a 780 16 gigs of ram and max out every game for the next 6 years

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@ Lil Chillbil

     that'd be nice, but i'm on a budget. which is why i thought i'd save money by looking at the e3's cause they're cheaper than i7's.

 

and for everyone else, my 2 660ti's can max anything i throw at them, i'm just wanting better multi-task performance.

[ET_CaughDrop]

how much better are the Haswell xeons than ivy's? and how hot do they run? 

it also says they use more power than ivy's too

[Lil Chillbil]

@ Lil Chillbil

     that'd be nice, but i'm on a budget. which is why i thought i'd save money by looking at the e3's cause they're cheaper than i7's.

 

and for everyone else, my 2 660ti's can max anything i throw at them, i'm just wanting better multi-task performance.

 

 

amd is the way to go if your on a budget, forget intel unless you can afford it

[ET_CaughDrop]

that's fair. i was just curious as to if a xeon could handle it as well, and cause i think it'd be kinda cool to say i had a xeon gaming pc lol

[Rekx]

If you want more threads the Pick the 8320 and overclock it

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