New build CPU decision (gaming)

[TasosTech]

Hello guys!

I 'm building a new rig with my friend (his PC) our budget is roughly 630€.

He will play games like LoL,CS GO but he also wants to play gta V and something like the new assassin's creeds.

 

•     for 190€ (CPU + MOBO) from AMD's side: FX 6300, Gigabyte GA-970-DS3P
•     for 185€ (CPU + MOBO) from Interl's side: i3-4170, Asrock B85M-DGS

 

so which one should I choose for playing games easier and which one will last longer!?

+I wanna ask if the hypethreaded Dual core (i3) will be acting as quad core in games?

 

Also I wanna know if the Thermaltake SPS-530MPCBEU smart se series 530W CM 87+  is a good PSU. If not, please suggest a PSU at 60€

 

 

**(I 'll be missing for a few hours, cuz i have to go to school i 'll read your posts later, thanks)**

[cheeze_tartz]

i3.. i3... i3...,  plz

[Sam Z Man]

Hyper threading won't make it a quad core in games, honestly it depends.

If you have a okay cooler and can overclock a little get a FX-6300

If not get the i3.

[Suffokation]

Get the i3. Even if that 6300 magically gets to 6GHz, the i3 will still beat it.

 

i3 plz.

[Sam Z Man]

Get the i3. Even if that 6300 magically gets to 6GHz, the i3 will still beat it.

 

i3 plz.

In pretty sure a 6ghz fx will beat a Intel dual core locked at 3.2ghz then again that's not happening.

[Suffokation]

In pretty sure a 6ghz fx will beat a Intel dual core locked at 3.2ghz then again that's not happening.

Not in single core workloads.

Such as gaming.

[Sam Z Man]

Not in single core workloads.

Such as gaming.

 

Are you saying a intel core is double a FX core in single core performance, yes it beats it but you have to smoking some good shit to think it beats it by that much.

 

Also gaming is not a single core workload it's a single to quad core workload just depends how many cores you have.

[Suffokation]

Are you saying a intel core is double a FX core in single core performance, yes it beats it but you have to smoking some good shit to think it beats it by that much.

 

Also gaming is not a single core workload it's a single to quad core workload just depends how many cores you have.

The i3 is roughly 40% faster than the FX 6300. Increasing clock speed does NOT give a relative speed increase. 

[Sam Z Man]

The i3 is roughly 40% faster than the FX 6300. Increasing clock speed does NOT give a relative speed increase. 

 

Please explain why they use the term instructions per CLOCK then.

[Suffokation]

Please explain why they use the term instructions per CLOCK then.

Oh you mean IPC? Not clock speed?

 

And by that logic, a 3GHz Pentium 4 will perform the same as a 3GHz i3.

Totally irrational.

[Sam Z Man]

Oh you mean IPC? Not clock speed?

 

And by that logic, a 3GHz Pentium 4 will perform the same as a 3GHz i3.

Totally irrational.

No I'm referring to CPU performance being measured in IPC if you raise the clock speed you get more instructions more instructions means more computing that all equates to realitive speed increase.

[Suffokation]

No I'm referring to CPU performance being measured in IPC if you raise the clock speed you get more instructions more instructions means more computing that all equates to realitive speed increase.

This is simply fallace.

 

Simplying turning up the clock speed doesn't give relative performance increases.

[Sam Z Man]

This is simply fallace.

 

Simplying turning up the clock speed doesn't give relative performance increases.

Yes it does in when your looking at actual compute power.

[Suffokation]

Yes it does in when your looking at actual compute power.

Well! That's great because OP is gaming..

/thread

[Sam Z Man]

Well! That's great because OP is gaming..

/thread

What if I told you games can use 2 more cores than what the i3 has. Honestly playing games on a dual core can work but your frame dips will be horrendous.

[Suffokation]

What if I told you games can use 2 more cores than what the i3 has. Honestly playing games on a dual core can work but your frame dips will be horrendous.

OP said he wished to play LoL, CS:GO, and GTA 5.

And, the 6300 will stutter aswell.

[Sam Z Man]

OP said he wished to play LoL, CS:GO, and GTA 5.

And, the 6300 will stutter aswell.

Not as bad as a dual core.

[TasosTech]

So guys which budget CPU wont struggle with these games!? 
What about the PSU I mentioned?

And if I pick the i3 will the PC be able to handle GTA V, ac unity, etc

[Sam Z Man]

So guys which budget CPU wont struggle with these games!? 

What about the PSU I mentioned?

And if I pick the i3 will the PC be able to handle GTA V, ac unity, etc

Honestly having more cores is better in my opinion especially if you ever use rendering.

[TasosTech]

Honestly having more cores is better in my opinion especially if you ever use rendering.

 

I know these stuff too...

I am just asking if its gonna affect the games! Having the more, but less powerfull cores or having the dual core with hyperthread!?

And the games that "require" quad cores will they be playable with the i3, just this. 

[Sam Z Man]

Playable yes but dual cores really stutter in some games, but a AMD hex core will be on the same level in performance, so really either or is a good choice for games.