ncase m1 v3 cooling custom loop

[Andrew Storlie]

Ok, so i have the following right now inside my ncase m1:

Ncase m1

Asus impact vii

4790k @ 4.5ghz

H100i cooler

16gb hyperX beast 1866mhz

Silverstone sfx 600w psu

2-1tb samsung 850 evos in raid 0

Slot load blueray drive

Finally asus 750ti OC edition.

My final part to upgrade in the GPU.

Im buying a titan x and want to go full water loop with the ek full coverage block and the matching titan x block. With the case only supporting a 240 rad. Will a 240 rad with dual ek vardar 1800rpm fans be enough to cool the titan x and a 4790k? I would have the fans as intakes on the sides and would be the only 2 fans in the entire build. Not worried about noise, but also dont want a jet engine in my desk.

[C0LL0SS0S]

I say no, 360 should be the minimum to make sense

[Andrew Storlie]

If it makes a big difference, i will not be OC the titan x or cpu

[Newbisgood]

I just invested in the same case and MB for a build and was heading in the same path of setup but read some interesting information in the watercooling 101 sticky that should help you.  The 240mm wouldn't be sufficient to cool both even if not overclocked.  

[mped]

240mm of rad space to start with. Then add 120mm for every part you add into the loop. Cpu + gpu I would suggest 360 minimum.

[bigboy678]

how important is case size to you?

 

are you going to be taking this computer on the road/LAN parties?

 

How important is quality to you?

 

if you want another quality case that is mitx form factor and can hold dual 240 rads i would suggest the caselabs novax2m  http://www.caselabs-store.com/nova-x2m/  its a very high quality case that can fit your cooling needs but it is not small

 

if you want something slightly more compact but no where near as high as quality the bitfenix prodigy i believe can fit a 240 and a 120 rad in it.

 

 

[yoyo55]

I have a custom loop in my Ncase M1 build and I think that would be enough to cool both CPU and GPU. 

Im currently running:

I5-4690K

EVGA GTX 980

8GB Corsair Ram

Silverstone SFX 600W

Asus Z97i-Plus Motherboard

1 Samsung 840 EVO 250GB

1 Samsung 850 Pro  512GB

Apogee Drive II Block and Pump Combo

EK Coolstream PE 240 Radiator

Two NF-F12 IndustrialPPC 2000 PWM Fans on Radiator

PrimoFlex 3/8ID by 1/2OD Clear Tubing

EK Compression Fittings

M1 Ncase Reservoir

Not shown in pic but Custom Cable Sleeving on all PS cables

 

GPU TEMPS

Idle : 22C
Load : 38C MAX!!....running Furmark for 30mins
CPU TEMPS
Idle : 26C
Load : 40C 

 

 

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[Andrew Storlie]

I have a custom loop in my Ncase M1 build and I think that would be enough to cool both CPU and GPU. 

Im currently running:

I5-4690K

EVGA GTX 980

8GB Corsair Ram

Silverstone SFX 600W

Asus Z97i-Plus Motherboard

1 Samsung 840 EVO 250GB

1 Samsung 850 Pro  512GB

Apogee Drive II Block and Pump Combo

EK Coolstream PE 240 Radiator

Two NF-F12 IndustrialPPC 2000 PWM Fans on Radiator

PrimoFlex 3/8ID by 1/2OD Clear Tubing

EK Compression Fittings

M1 Ncase Reservoir

Not shown in pic but Custom Cable Sleeving on all PS cables

 

GPU TEMPS

Idle : 22C

Load : 38C MAX!!....running Furmark for 30mins

CPU TEMPS

Idle : 26C

Load : 40C 

 

 

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!!!! YES... and im glad you replied to this post. ive been looking at the same res for the back of the case, what fittings do you use to run in to the case on the bottem? anything special or will standard compression fittings fit without mods? close up pics of the res mounting and tubing would be REALLY nice.

[yoyo55]

!!!! YES... and im glad you replied to this post. ive been looking at the same res for the back of the case, what fittings do you use to run in to the case on the bottem? anything special or will standard compression fittings fit without mods? close up pics of the res mounting and tubing would be REALLY nice.

 

All the Fittings were EK compression fittings. To make it easier for you I included my parts list for your reference. One thing though, I definitely recommend using the EK-AF Extender 8mm Male to Female G1/4 on the radiator then use a right angle and then a compression fitting to run the tubes across the fans. Pretty much the same way you see in the pic however I currently have only the right angle connector with the compression fittings on. I've tried the 30mm and the 20mm and both are to close to the PSU when attempting to mount the radiator. I'll post up some close up pics for you tomorrow as it is 2am over here and i'm dead tired. Let me know if you need me to show you anything specific. 

 

[Andrew Storlie]

All the Fittings were EK compression fittings. To make it easier for you I included my parts list for your reference. One thing though, I definitely recommend using the EK-AF Extender 8mm Male to Female G1/4 on the radiator then use a right angle and then a compression fitting to run the tubes across the fans. Pretty much the same way you see in the pic however I currently have only the right angle connector with the compression fittings on. I've tried the 30mm and the 20mm and both are to close to the PSU when attempting to mount the radiator. I'll post up some close up pics for you tomorrow as it is 2am over here and i'm dead tired. Let me know if you need me to show you anything specific. 

 

 well i know the res is built for that spot on the m1 but i didnt know if you need extension fittings or anything to be able to connect the tubing without modding the case

[yoyo55]

 well i know the res is built for that spot on the m1 but i didnt know if you need extension fittings or anything to be able to connect the tubing without modding the case

No extensions, just compression fittings or whatever fittings you plan on using. No modding necessary. 

 

[Andrew Storlie]

thx you so much for the pics, that helps clarify everything. 

[ehq]

Hey guys, kind of a noob question, but how can you fill this loop if the pump is not receiving liquid via the force of gravity, since it's higher than the res?

 

I'm planning on getting the *exact* same setup as you, but I was just a bit concerned about that, since it goes against the usual advice about keeping the res higher.

[Andrew Storlie]

for *ME* personally i have a raystorm cpu and gpu block and a separate pump and the very bottom of my case.

 

 

BUT BUT BUT.... if your going with the cpu block with built in pump.... as you fill the res, tilt your case forward to let it flow in the the cpu... the cycle power, refill again and tip it to fill the cpu, and eventually it will fill itself.

 

EDIT: actually looking back, the TOP of the cpu/pump is just under the TOP level of the res... therefore gravity will fill the cpu/pump to the same height as the res, this should be plenty to start cycling power, just be ready to shut off as it fill fast 

[Zyphron]

there 

 

!!!! YES... and im glad you replied to this post. ive been looking at the same res for the back of the case, what fittings do you use to run in to the case on the bottem? anything special or will standard compression fittings fit without mods? close up pics of the res mounting and tubing would be REALLY nice.

While i'm Glad you made this work Its an Extremely tight fit and really relying on the 980 and lower power 4690 here to survive 

you also fail to mention that those fans are the 2000 rpm PPC screamers from Noctua... they are FUCKING LOUD. and to cool that set up fully loaded. id bet they are running 1200-1400 to move the required airflow.

OP consider this:
980 vs titan x........ the titan X pumps out about an EXTRA 100 watts of heat compared to the 980 and USES an EXTRA 100W of power. this alone means your approach might not be viable this is not even taking into consideration that a 600 watt SfX "might" not handle the titan. 

 

on thing Id personally change is the EK cool stream Rad and going for a 35MM rad that does not have a lot of framing and/or has a Higher FPI then 11. You have the Static pressure to push through a denser rad and to take advantage of that PARTICULARLY if you are going with those 2k Noctua PPC's 

[Andrew Storlie]

 

OP consider this:

980 vs titan x........ the titan X pumps out about an EXTRA 100 watts of heat compared to the 980 and USES an EXTRA 100W of power. this alone means your approach might not be viable this is not even taking into consideration that a 600 watt SfX "might" not handle the titan. 

 i actually had the titan x already in the build and took it to a local lan party for CSGO and a guy offered me more then what i paid in cash for the set up cause he'd never see so much power and water cooling in such a small case.. im now currently running a 450d with asus Mark S (the white one) with 32gb domitator ram 2133mhz cas 9, 2-1tb 850 evos in raid 0, rm1000 psu. 4790k and a single 980ti. will be selling the 980ti i have and grabbing 2 980ti g1 gaming cards for sli and then doing a full custom loop again. full black and white build

[Zyphron]

my mistake, I did not realize this was a zombie thread from 2 months ago.... how did the System handle the Titan X? seems like it would be on the cusp of max for the PSU and Cooling of a 240 Rad....

[Andrew Storlie]

it took the titan x fine but in HARD gaming sessions the case did get a little hot for my taste. which is why im back to a full tower... the ncase is an amazing case though, they are soon releasing the v4 (i had the v3)and i will be buying it again and simply putting a small pc in it just to have a pc with the ncase m1