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As my Windows 7 installation is getting older, I have noticed that my boot screen (the one with the 4 colorful blobs becoming a logo) has increasingly been taking longer and longer.

 

I have already done the obvious optimizations: SSD, remove unused services, fix BIOS...

 

I also have a RAMDisk that is designed to function as a TEMP location, this RAMDisk doesn't save/load, it starts fresh every time.

 

Now the issue is this:

I have a second, slower SSD in my exact same PC, and it's done with the blobs before the blobs can even touch eachother.

My main SSD, the faster one, managed to do this too but has increased overtime: as the blobs have touched eachother, it takes atleast 5-10 more seconds!

 

Main SSD speed: http://puu.sh/hNeNc.png

Second SSD speed: http://puu.sh/hNf2L.png

 

As you can see, the second SSD is about half the speed of my primary SSD, how can it be booting Windows 7 quicker?

 

I'm obviously not looking for the fresh reinstall solution...

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how many programs do you have booting up when you start your pc?

i guess it could be slowing you down

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how many programs do you have booting up when you start your pc?

i guess it could be slowing you down

Less than the slower SSD has I'm pretty sure.

Do you mean services or something else?

 

 

Also: SSDs both have a provisioning partition, and both are about the same percentage filled...

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Not too much details in the logfile, except that the BootTime differs quite a bit, increasing over time, sometimes having a really low time.

His article fails to mention the codes to filter are 100-109 not just 100. That will show you programs (under error core 101) that have slowed your boot as explained in the text.

That is not your problem. (just helpfull advice)

 

But I have come across this from PC Gamer that professes to be a samsung fix for a bad firmware (just follow second link) that is causing drives to slow down. Hope that helps you.

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Disable all startup programs in msconfig, and go over to the services tab and check "Hide all microsoft services", and then disable all the services that are left and reboot. 
 

 

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His article fails to mention the codes to filter are 100-109 not just 100. That will show you programs (under error core 101) that have slowed your boot as explained in the text.

That is not your problem. (just helpfull advice)

 

But I have come across this from PC Gamer that professes to be a samsung fix for a bad firmware (just follow second link) that is causing drives to slow down. Hope that helps you.

It's an 830, but thanks for the attempt :)

 

Disable all startup programs in msconfig, and go over to the services tab and check "Hide all microsoft services", and then disable all the services that are left and reboot. 

 

Not much in there that I:

1. Want to disable.

2. Don't have on the second, slower SSD installation.

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It's an 830, but thanks for the attempt :)

 

Not much in there that I:

1. Want to disable.

2. Don't have on the second, slower SSD installation.

Just disable everything for now and see if it boots any faster at all.

Not forever, just to test.

 

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Just disable everything for now and see if it boots any faster at all.

Not forever, just to test.

No difference, it actually felt worse...

 

Edit: There seems to be no drive activity when the blobs touch for a whole, then the LED turns on again and it continues, maybe something network related? I have a static IP address though...

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It's an 830, but thanks for the attempt :)

 

Not much in there that I:

1. Want to disable.

2. Don't have on the second, slower SSD installation.

you have the latest firmware?

 

Is samsung magician also installed? There have been reports of it speeding up access (both reads and writes)

 

I also came accross a thread that said the antivirus was slowing his access times (mainly write but read also) and the times improved when he switched to a different one. (Just throwing that last one out as it sounds far fetched but plausable)

 

And This page says that as the SSD gets older it will read slower

 

In 2011 - new evidence started coming in from longtitudinal flash SSD research done by STEC that old, heavily written MLC cells - managed by traditional endurance schemes - tend to get slower as they get older - due to higher retry rates on reads - even though the blocks are still reported by SMART logs as "good" - and the writes do eventually succeed on retry.

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you have the latest firmware?

 

Is samsung magician also installed? There have been reports of it speeding up access (both reads and writes)

 

I also came accross a thread that said the antivirus was slowing his access times (mainly write but read also) and the times improved when he switched to a different one. (Just throwing that last one out as it sounds far fetched but plausable)

 

And This page says that as the SSD gets older it will read slower

Yes, the latest firmware came out years ago (thanks Samsung, nice update policy... Oh right they make that phone with Android, nevermind)

It could be the antivirus, as I don't have that same antivirus (Eset Smart Security) on the other SSD. I have had this antivirus since the fresh install though, so I should've noticed it back then. I could try uninstalling it for a moment I guess.

 

It could be a MLC issue, it's more than a year old. Though the benchmarks still show an average of ~370MB/sec which is far higher than the other SSD that has a faster boot time.

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Yes, the latest firmware came out years ago (thanks Samsung, nice update policy... Oh right they make that phone with Android, nevermind)

It could be the antivirus, as I don't have that same antivirus (Eset Smart Security) on the other SSD. I have had this antivirus since the fresh install though, so I should've noticed it back then. I could try uninstalling it for a moment I guess.

 

It could be a MLC issue, it's more than a year old. Though the benchmarks still show an average of ~370MB/sec which is far higher than the other SSD that has a faster boot time.

"thanks Samsung, nice update policy." ---- LOL I feel ya on that one.

the only other option would be to try a fresh install. I am out of idea's (mine or researched).

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Fair enough, waiting for Windows 10 to drop, and planning on an NVMe SSD...

Mmmm. NVME...

Anyways.. you can try a fresh install on a separate partition of the SSD, that way you won't lose anything.

 

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As my Windows 7 installation is getting older, I have noticed that my boot screen (the one with the 4 colorful blobs becoming a logo) has increasingly been taking longer and longer.

I have already done the obvious optimizations: SSD, remove unused services, fix BIOS...

I also have a RAMDisk that is designed to function as a TEMP location, this RAMDisk doesn't save/load, it starts fresh every time.

Now the issue is this:

I have a second, slower SSD in my exact same PC, and it's done with the blobs before the blobs can even touch eachother.

My main SSD, the faster one, managed to do this too but has increased overtime: as the blobs have touched eachother, it takes atleast 5-10 more seconds!

Main SSD speed: http://puu.sh/hNeNc.png

Second SSD speed: http://puu.sh/hNf2L.png

As you can see, the second SSD is about half the speed of my primary SSD, how can it be booting Windows 7 quicker?

I'm obviously not looking for the fresh reinstall solution...

Not to seem obvious, but have you made sure to enable AHCI?

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