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Thank you very much for your time! 

I saw this HD classification chart on the "Product Description" section on amazon and one question popped up (scroll down until you find it):

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1430270186&sr=1-1&keywords=wd+black

 

I was considering the Red ones since Linus allways used this ones as examples when talking about RAIDs, but since they are used for NAS configurations and I don't know much about what that is I don't know if they are appropriate for desktops.

I use de SSD only as a boot drive and for storing my editing softwares. Hence the search for a perfomance boost on the HDs.

You're welcome.

Perfect. Glad I wasn't misinforming (basically). Thanks for showing me that. 

I recommend Reds personally for what you plan to do. Good balance of performance & reliability. NAS means Network Attached Storage and generally refers to a Server specifically for Storage uses. It's a marketing thing and there is no real difference if you use those in a Desktop. They would work pretty much exactly the same. 

Gotcha. Then yeah, Reds sound like a good choice for you. 

Honestly, I'm uncertain if you should get a RAID card. They tend to be expensive, so only get one if this is a work machine, but your onboard RAID controller won't just die (what I meant with a "Yes" to trusting it) unless it's faulty (in which case, it would've died sooner or later anyway). 

I recommend buying the drives and trying them out with your onboard RAID controller and see if the performance is good enough for what you are doing. If it's not, then I recommend getting a dedicated RAID controller, but only if you can justify the cost to yourself.

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I'm currently shopping for a RAID 10 array and have a few questions:

- Can I trust my mobo RAID controller?

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97MPLUS/specifications/

 

- Which HD should I choose? Thoes this choice really matter? (WD Red, Black, Purple, Green, Blue...)

 

- Thoes RAID stress the HD's more than non RAID usage?

 

 

Many thanks!

 

 

PS: I work with heavy video editing and 3D rendering and already have an SSD

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I'm currently shopping for a RAID 10 array and have a few questions:

- Can I trust my mobo RAID controller?

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97MPLUS/specifications/

 

- Which HD should I choose? Thoes this choice really matter? (WD Red, Black, Purple, Green, Blue...)

 

- Thoes RAID stress the HD's more than non RAID usage?

 

Many thanks!

 

PS: I work with heavy video editing and 3D rendering and already have an SSD

Yes.

It only matters a little. Just don't get Greens. My understanding (which could be wrong) is this: Blues < Blacks < Reds < Purple in terms of reliability. 

Basically, no. But the answer is a bit more complicated than that. Long story short: RAID means the drives will run as often as they normally would anyway. RAID 0 means they'd get written to less often (depends how many drives) and RAID 1 means they'd get written to just as often anyway (since it's a mirror). Swings & Roundabouts.

Do you use the SSD for your editing footage? I assume this is for both backup & performance since it's RAID 10. 

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Yes.

It only matters a little. Just don't get Greens. My understanding (which could be wrong) is this: Blues < Blacks < Reds < Purple in terms of reliability. 

Basically, no. But the answer is a bit more complicated than that. Long story short: RAID means the drives will run as often as they normally would anyway. RAID 0 means they'd get written to less often (depends how many drives) and RAID 1 means they'd get written to just as often anyway (since it's a mirror). Swings & Roundabouts.

Do you use the SSD for your editing footage? I assume this is for both backup & performance since it's RAID 10. 

Thank you very much for your time! 

I saw this HD classification chart on the "Product Description" section on amazon and one question popped up (scroll down until you find it):

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1430270186&sr=1-1&keywords=wd+black

 

I was considering the Red ones since Linus allways used this ones as examples when talking about RAIDs, but since they are used for NAS configurations and I don't know much about what that is I don't know if they are appropriate for desktops.

I use de SSD only as a boot drive and for storing my editing softwares. Hence the search for a perfomance boost on the HDs.

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Thank you very much for your time! 

I saw this HD classification chart on the "Product Description" section on amazon and one question popped up (scroll down until you find it):

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1430270186&sr=1-1&keywords=wd+black

 

I was considering the Red ones since Linus allways used this ones as examples when talking about RAIDs, but since they are used for NAS configurations and I don't know much about what that is I don't know if they are appropriate for desktops.

I use de SSD only as a boot drive and for storing my editing softwares. Hence the search for a perfomance boost on the HDs.

You're welcome.

Perfect. Glad I wasn't misinforming (basically). Thanks for showing me that. 

I recommend Reds personally for what you plan to do. Good balance of performance & reliability. NAS means Network Attached Storage and generally refers to a Server specifically for Storage uses. It's a marketing thing and there is no real difference if you use those in a Desktop. They would work pretty much exactly the same. 

Gotcha. Then yeah, Reds sound like a good choice for you. 

Honestly, I'm uncertain if you should get a RAID card. They tend to be expensive, so only get one if this is a work machine, but your onboard RAID controller won't just die (what I meant with a "Yes" to trusting it) unless it's faulty (in which case, it would've died sooner or later anyway). 

I recommend buying the drives and trying them out with your onboard RAID controller and see if the performance is good enough for what you are doing. If it's not, then I recommend getting a dedicated RAID controller, but only if you can justify the cost to yourself.

† Christian Member †

For my pertinent links to guides, reviews, and anything similar, go here, and look under the spoiler labeled such. A brief history of Unix and it's relation to OS X by Builder.

 

 

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You're welcome.

Perfect. Glad I wasn't misinforming (basically). Thanks for showing me that. 

I recommend Reds personally for what you plan to do. Good balance of performance & reliability. NAS means Network Attached Storage and generally refers to a Server specifically for Storage uses. It's a marketing thing and there is no real difference if you use those in a Desktop. They would work pretty much exactly the same. 

Gotcha. Then yeah, Reds sound like a good choice for you. 

Honestly, I'm uncertain if you should get a RAID card. They tend to be expensive, so only get one if this is a work machine, but your onboard RAID controller won't just die (what I meant with a "Yes" to trusting it) unless it's faulty (in which case, it would've died sooner or later anyway). 

I recommend buying the drives and trying them out with your onboard RAID controller and see if the performance is good enough for what you are doing. If it's not, then I recommend getting a dedicated RAID controller, but only if you can justify the cost to yourself.

You've been extemely helpfull! Thank you very much.

I saw this a few minutes ago on the forum and it helped my understanding those drives functions. It could help you too since you liked the previous chart:

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/240122-what-drive-should-i-get-a-guide-to-the-mechanical-hd-market/

I'll try a RAID 10 array with the Red's and make sure to get back to you with the results! =)

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I'm currently shopping for a RAID 10 array and have a few questions:

- Can I trust my mobo RAID controller?

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97MPLUS/specifications/

 

- Which HD should I choose? Thoes this choice really matter? (WD Red, Black, Purple, Green, Blue...)

 

- Thoes RAID stress the HD's more than non RAID usage?

 

 

Many thanks!

 

 

PS: I work with heavy video editing and 3D rendering and already have an SSD

 

 

Hey there,
 
My two cents on the topic:
- The RAID controller on the motherboard should be just fine for what you need it for. You shouldn't have problems with it.
- I would suggest using NAS/RAID class drives for safer and smoother performance. WD Red is such a drive. It has features like TLER and additional firmware improvements that enable it to work safer in a RAID array with significantly lower chances of drive dropouts, corrupted data and other potential issues.
- RAID does stress the HDDs more compared to regular usage. This is why it is recommended to use drives that are optimized for such environments.
 
Captain_WD. 

If this helped you, like and choose it as best answer - you might help someone else with the same issue. ^_^
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Hey there,
 
My two cents on the topic:
- The RAID controller on the motherboard should be just fine for what you need it for. You shouldn't have problems with it.
- I would suggest using NAS/RAID class drives for safer and smoother performance. WD Red is such a drive. It has features like TLER and additional firmware improvements that enable it to work safer in a RAID array with significantly lower chances of drive dropouts, corrupted data and other potential issues.
- RAID does stress the HDDs more compared to regular usage. This is why it is recommended to use drives that are optimized for such environments.
 
Captain_WD. 

 

Wow, thank you very much for the info!

I have made my decision: WD Red it is!

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Wow, thank you very much for the info!

I have made my decision: WD Red it is!

 

You are welcome :) Feel free to ask if you happen to have other questions. 

 

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If this helped you, like and choose it as best answer - you might help someone else with the same issue. ^_^
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