Performance

[Akamii]

my current gpu is hd 7730 gddr5 1gb , cpu : fx-6300 black edition , ram : 4gb , mobo: 78lmt-s2p rev5 (ye i know its bad but it doesnt effect the performance)

so i was wondering about if im going to get 280x vapor-x tri-x i will really get any improvements in the performance ? because some ppl said i wont
thanks.

[xCaleb]

You will, but you should also upgrade your ram and cpu.

[Jack.EXE]

You will, but you should also upgrade your ram and cpu.

 

The CPU is enough for the 280, but not sure about the 280X

[Tech_Dreamer]

it should bump the GPU horsepower but to get the most out of it you should upgrade the rest of the components, this is playable & you will feel the difference fron th 7730

[theodoro]

Of course you will see improvements man. The only problem that you might get is the low amount of RAM. Add 4GB more and you will get (at least) 4x times  better performance than that 7730.

[Hieb]

my current gpu is hd 7730 gddr5 1gb , cpu : fx-6300 black edition , ram : 4gb , mobo: 78lmt-s2p rev5 (ye i know its bad but it doesnt effect the performance)

so i was wondering about if im going to get 280x vapor-x tri-x i will really get any improvements in the performance ? because some ppl said i wont
thanks.

 

There will be a performance improvement, but you'll definitely want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM as soon as possible. 4GB of RAM is very problematic for a lot of modern games as I experienced first hand on my previous system (Core 2 Quad, 4GB RAM, GTX 560). Games like Battlefield multiplayer, MMOs etc. would run into framerate dips, stutters and hitches from the limited RAM.

 

Your upgrade priority right now should be:

 

New video card > more RAM > new CPU and motherboard (your FX-6300 should hold you over fine until AMD Zen at which point you can decide AMD vs Intel... if you wanna upgrade sooner for maximum performance then def go Intel).

  

The CPU is enough for the 280, but not sure about the 280X

lol yeah there's a clear line where you can say the FX-6300 is good or not good enough...

The FX-6300 will bottleneck an R9 280 or R9 280X, or a billion other mid range cards in CPU intensive games. In less CPU heavy games it probably won't bottleneck either card. The gap between the R9 280 and R9 280X is small enough that you could safely say that if the 6300 isn't good enough for a 280X, it's probably not good enough for a 280 either. There's only a 10-15% performance gap between these two cards.

[Akamii]

but i think the mobo wont decrease or even affect the performance as many ppl here in this forum said so.. and the mobo will be important if only and just if only im going to oc because of the heat also new mobo = more features like more usb slots and better audio card.. but doesnt effect the cpu/gpu performance at all right?

[Akamii]

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[Hieb]

but i think the mobo wont decrease or even affect the performance as many ppl here in this forum said so.. and the mobo will be important if only and just if only im going to oc because of the heat also new mobo = more features like more usb slots and better audio card.. but doesnt effect the cpu/gpu performance at all right?

 

Motherboards have small impacts on performance depending on their memory infrastructure and other things, like how networking and audio is processed. But the difference is relatively minor.

 

However, I said motherboard and CPU upgrade is next because if you upgrade your CPU you will HAVE to upgrade your motherboard. Those motherboards will not support 125W CPUs such as the FX-8320/8350 and is the wrong socket for more modern (and faster) CPUs like Intel's i3/i5/i7 Haswell chips. Get the GPU upgrade, then upgrade to 8GB of RAM when you can afford it, and then save up some money to get an Intel i3/i5 and H97 motherboard (or if you happen to wait until 2016 to upgrade this, then see what is out then).

[Akamii]

Motherboards have small impacts on performance depending on their memory infrastructure and other things, like how networking and audio is processed. But the difference is relatively minor.

 

However, I said motherboard and CPU upgrade is next because if you upgrade your CPU you will HAVE to upgrade your motherboard. Those motherboards will not support 125W CPUs such as the FX-8320/8350 and is the wrong socket for more modern (and faster) CPUs like Intel's i3/i5/i7 Haswell chips. Get the GPU upgrade, then upgrade to 8GB of RAM when you can afford it, and then save up some money to get an Intel i3/i5 and H97 motherboard (or if you happen to wait until 2016 to upgrade this, then see what is out then).

ye i know i will have to change it but i meant high-end or mid-end mobo wont affect my video performance.. not talking about the network or the auido here.. so i will just buy cheap one since i dont care about the rest of these things also i wont oc my cpu so i am right it doesnt affect the video performance?

[Hieb]

ye i know i will have to change it but i meant high-end or mid-end mobo wont affect my video performance.. not talking about the network or the auido here.. so i will just buy cheap one since i dont care about the rest of these things also i wont oc my cpu so i am right it doesnt affect the video performance?

 

It can affect video performance. because a high-end motherboard has more advanced on-board audio and network solutions which reduces load on your processor, allowing your processor to spend more time focusing on the game. However this is pretty minor. Talking like less than 5% difference in framerate

[miagisan]

 

 

 

There will be a performance improvement, but you'll definitely want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM as soon as possible. 4GB of RAM is very problematic for a lot of modern games as I experienced first hand on my previous system (Core 2 Quad, 4GB RAM, GTX 560). Games like Battlefield multiplayer, MMOs etc. would run into framerate dips, stutters and hitches from the limited RAM.

 

Your upgrade priority right now should be:

 

New video card > more RAM > new CPU and motherboard (your FX-6300 should hold you over fine until AMD Zen at which point you can decide AMD vs Intel... if you wanna upgrade sooner for maximum performance then def go Intel).

  

lol yeah there's a clear line where you can say the FX-6300 is good or not good enough...

The FX-6300 will bottleneck an R9 280 or R9 280X, or a billion other mid range cards in CPU intensive games. In less CPU heavy games it probably won't bottleneck either card. The gap between the R9 280 and R9 280X is small enough that you could safely say that if the 6300 isn't good enough for a 280X, it's probably not good enough for a 280 either. There's only a 10-15% performance gap between these two cards.

 

a 6300 with a mild OC will not bottleneck a 280x. My 280x is pinged at 90-98%% on most games (not counting mmos, dont really play many of those anymore).

 

The 6300 is fine for a 280x....but higher i wouldnt use a 6300.

[Hieb]

a 6300 with a mild OC will not bottleneck a 280x. My 280x is pinged at 90-98%% on most games (not counting mmos, dont really play many of those anymore).

 

The 6300 is fine for a 280x....but higher i wouldnt use a 6300.

 

it depends on the game

When I said "lol yeah there's a clear line where you can say the FX-6300 is good or not good enough..." I was being sarcastic since it depends entirely on what in-game settings they're using and what game they are playing. An i7 can bottleneck a GTX 760 if you were to play at 720P, while at 4K an AMD A4 dual core wouldn't bottleneck the GTX 770.

 

It all depends on how CPU intensive the game is, what framerate you're playing at, and what settings you're using.

 

An FX-6300 will easily bottleneck an R9 280/280X in a CPU intensive game, and then in other games it wouldn't even come close to bottlenecking.

[Akamii]

It can affect video performance. because a high-end motherboard has more advanced on-board audio and network solutions which reduces load on your processor, allowing your processor to spend more time focusing on the game. However this is pretty minor. Talking like less than 5% difference in framerate

i have been searching here and there.. and nobody said that before.. everyone said it wont even affect ur gaming performance by 0.001%

[Hieb]

i have been searching here and there.. and nobody said that before.. everyone said it wont even affect ur gaming performance by 0.001%

 

they are wrong. It does affect performance slightly since different motherboards have different memory, networking and audio performance. However like I said the difference is small so it's not really worth considering.

 

 

The dip in Bioshock Infinite is a part that's memory bottlenecked, so the differences in memory throughput between the motherboards makes a difference. It's not part of the actual gameplay and the framerate only goes down that low when it's loading a new part of the benchmark.

 

Anyways yeah... slight differences, not enough to warrant spending like $50 more on a motherboard though.

[Akamii]

they are wrong. It does affect performance slightly since different motherboards have different memory, networking and audio performance. However like I said the difference is small so it's not really worth considering.

 

 

The dip in Bioshock Infinite is a part that's memory bottlenecked, so the differences in memory throughput between the motherboards makes a difference. It's not part of the actual gameplay and the framerate only goes down that low when it's loading a new part of the benchmark.

 

Anyways yeah... slight differences, not enough to warrant spending like $50 more on a motherboard though.

80% of google searching are wrong? LOL , btw ur benchmarks showing that 1~15fps difference ! how u call it slightly ?!! 

[Hieb]

80% of google searching are wrong? LOL , btw ur benchmarks showing that 1~15fps difference ! how u call it slightly ?!! 

 

Yes, they are wrong.

And I explained in my post why the gap is so big on the Bioshock Infinite benchmark. That's one part of the benchmark where it's loading a new scene so the framerate drops, as it's entirely memory bottlenecked. As such, motherboards with better memory performance make a big difference, however this doesn't translate to ordinary gameplay since system memory speed is mostly irrelevant for gaming.

[vembutech]

It's better you can upgrade RAM and CPU

[vembutech]

It's better you can upgrade RAM and CPU

[vembutech]

It's better you can upgrade RAM and CPU

[vembutech]

You build is ok. Go ahead.

[Akamii]

@vembutech  troll #done ?!

[Akamii]

Yes, they are wrong.

And I explained in my post why the gap is so big on the Bioshock Infinite benchmark. That's one part of the benchmark where it's loading a new scene so the framerate drops, as it's entirely memory bottlenecked. As such, motherboards with better memory performance make a big difference, however this doesn't translate to ordinary gameplay since system memory speed is mostly irrelevant for gaming.

still cant believe it affects the gaming performance "graphics" , since the majority saying that ... nothing personal but its the human nature