NEED ADVICE!

[EveryVillianIsLemonds]

currently im running:

Motherboard: ASUS p8 Z77-VLX

GPU: GTX680

CPU: intel i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz

RAM: 16GB

  2 SSD with 500GB

  1 HDD with 1TB

I cant decided on selling this PC and building a whole new one, or just upgrading this platform. Im not very tech savvy but i am capable of puting a PC together, considering i put my current rig together. What would be a good price for my PC if i decided selling is the best option? AND what would be some good upgrades on my current pc if i decided to upgrade this one?

 

 

[Senzelian]

currently im running:

Motherboard: ASUS p8 Z77-VLX

GPU: GTX680

CPU: intel i7-3770 @ 3.4GHz

RAM: 16GB

  2 SSD with 500GB

  1 HDD with 1TB

I cant decided on selling this PC and building a whole new one, or just upgrading this platform. Im not very tech savvy but i am capable of puting a PC together, considering i put my current rig together. What would be a good price for my PC if i decided selling is the best option? AND what would be some good upgrades on my current pc if i decided to upgrade this one?

 

Your CPU and motherboard are still pretty good, if not great. 

You've enough storage and already two SSDs. 

And RAM is definitly not a problem.

I would probably upgrade the GPU (but only if needed) to either a GTX 970, 980 or R9 390X. But the 390X is not released yet, so you'll have to wait for it.

[zlolslavez]

I think if you sold the GPU seperately, and then sold the motherboard + cpu combo seperately, you could use what you have left + some cash to invest into better stuff.

Stuff you should be looking to upgrade to, I wouldn't bother upgrading if it ISN't better than this.

4690K if you are only gaming + light editing/streaming/etc...

4790k if above is done at a greater scale

GTX 970 (AMD R9 290X) - gaming, if you don't think you need a upgrade like this, then stick with a 680, as it is ROUGHLY equal to a 770.

[Vek1313]

Personally, with those specs, I would look at selling it or some parts and keep some for a new build. My first upgrade with that would be a newer GPU, not that the one you have is bad, just my preference. I would stick with the 16 gb of ram because that is enough not thinking you need more. You have a nice CPU so that would be up to you to choose if you wanna upgrade and that's about all I can say about this build.

[Vek1313]

Your CPU and motherboard are still pretty good, if not great.

You've enough storage and already two SSDs.

And RAM is definitly not a problem.

I would probably upgrade the GPU (but only if needed) to either a GTX 970, 980 or R9 390X. But the 390X is not released yet, so you'll have to wait for it.

The 390x isn't neccessary unless he is looking at 1440p. If you go with the R9 series (I would highly recommend but totally upto you) The R9 290 or 290x will give you a lot of performance and the bottleneck would be very minimal with that CPU because as Linus said in a video that there is always bottlenecking.

[Senzelian]

The 390x isn't neccessary unless he is looking at 1440p. If you go with the R9 series (I would highly recommend but totally upto you) The R9 290 or 290x will give you a lot of performance and the bottleneck would be very minimal with that CPU because as Linus said in a video that there is always bottlenecking.

 

If he's is going to upgrade anyway and is even considering a whole new build, then he has obviously the money to spend for a new graphics card. So why not get something, that won't be outdated in a few years again like his current 680.

With that CPU he won't have any bottlenecking. We are talking about an i7-3770k, not an 8350 or i7-970. I guess you got Linus wrong, when he said that something will always bottleneck a different component. It's the same with a car. Racing cars could probably drive a lot faster, but they're limited by tires, brakes and other things. 

And why is the 390X only neccessary for 1440p? Ever heard of 144Hz panels? Also games won't get less demanding over time, so in the future he'll need a powerfull card even for 1080p games.

[Vek1313]

If he's is going to upgrade anyway and is even considering a whole new build, then he has obviously the money to spend for a new graphics card. So why not get something, that won't be outdated in a few years again like his current 680.

With that CPU he won't have any bottlenecking. We are talking about an i7-3770k, not an 8350 or i7-970. I guess you got Linus wrong, when he said that something will always bottleneck a different component. It's the same with a car. Racing cars could probably drive a lot faster, but they're limited by tires, brakes and other things.

And why is the 390X only neccessary for 1440p? Ever heard of 144Hz panels? Also games won't get less demanding over time, so in the future he'll need a powerfull card even for 1080p games.

1. I don't know why you are getting so rude and defensive, I'm just stating my opinion and my opinion on yours.

2. The 290 or 290x won't be outdated for a while with the performance it brings.

3. What I was saying with the 390x is it is overkill right now for 1080p.

4. Actually games are requiring less from CPUs and GPUs. Some aren't but it depends on the game and what settings you want to use.

5. I'm sure Linus knows better than you, there will be bottlenecking with anything, it might not be noticed or even known that it is there but it does happen.

6. The 8350 isn't even that bad like you make it out to be so you obviously have no idea about AMD CPUs. It can/will outperform various Intel CPUs in gaming, streaming, recording, and if it isn't an i7 editing and rendering. Don't get me wrong Intel CPUs are good just I feel AMD CPUs are undervalued when they can give the same performance if not more if you get the right ones. The extra cores help in the streaming and recording at the same time, the gaming with an AMD CPU since it controls little of the FPS might be like 3 FPS. It will perform all of the simple everyday tasks on a PC and Gaming. Just like the CPU you picked out it will have minimal bottleneck (experience) so I'd say that you blindly follow stuff with how you recommend.

Just saying.

[EveryVillianIsLemonds]

thanks guys for the advice! i was thinking of dual 980s. and possibly a new CPU. the CPU im looking at getting i7-4790K. would those be effective and help with the longevity of my rig?

 

[morriscey]

Honestly, for the price of building an all new rig, your CPU, RAM mobo and storage is more than fine. A 4000 series quad core i7 will give you a 5%-10% boost. 

  

If this machine is primarily for gaming, then just sell the 460 for $80-100, and buy a shiny new GTX 980  or wait for the 390x to come out. Maybe add a 3tb disk. Unless you plan on jumping up to a 6 or 8 core i7 for better rendering, there is almost zero point in upgrading your CPU/MOBO, especially for gaming. CPU bottlenecking shouldn't be a very big issue for another year or two. 

 

you have a z77 board so maybe get a nice aftermarket cooler (hyper 212 evo is a great cost effective choice, the raijintek ereboss is pretty fucking beefy as well, while a cheap water loop such as the corsair h55 will help keep overall system temps down by dumping heat outside the case.) and you can overclock your CPU. Some 3000 and 4000 series intel chips have garbage TIM between the processor and heat spreader, so if you're feeling brave, delidding and replacing the TIM carefully should give you a much higher overclock.

[Kermit]

 

thanks guys for the advice! i was thinking of dual 980s. and possibly a new CPU. the CPU im looking at getting i7-4790K. would those be effective and help with the longevity of my rig?

 

 

 

if you do what you just outlined, you will have a petty sick rig. and yes the i7-4790k is a very effective processor - most people with PCs that I know of use that cpu, and dual 980s are godlike. Just be sure to 1) get a motherboard with sli-capability and 2) get a new motherboard that supports LGA 1150, rather than the LGA 1155 of your previous Core i5.

 

edit: Welcome to the forums!

[Fgtfv567]

i7-3770 buddies!! Seriously, go look at my profile.

Do what I'm doing and get a 970. It'll skyrocket your performance. If you got 600 bucks to blow tho, get a 980

[Senzelian]

1. I don't know why you are getting so rude and defensive, I'm just stating my opinion and my opinion on yours.

2. The 290 or 290x won't be outdated for a while with the performance it brings.

3. What I was saying with the 390x is it is overkill right now for 1080p.

4. Actually games are requiring less from CPUs and GPUs. Some aren't but it depends on the game and what settings you want to use.

5. I'm sure Linus knows better than you, there will be bottlenecking with anything, it might not be noticed or even known that it is there but it does happen.

6. The 8350 isn't even that bad like you make it out to be so you obviously have no idea about AMD CPUs. It can/will outperform various Intel CPUs in gaming, streaming, recording, and if it isn't an i7 editing and rendering. Don't get me wrong Intel CPUs are good just I feel AMD CPUs are undervalued when they can give the same performance if not more if you get the right ones. The extra cores help in the streaming and recording at the same time, the gaming with an AMD CPU since it controls little of the FPS might be like 3 FPS. It will perform all of the simple everyday tasks on a PC and Gaming. Just like the CPU you picked out it will have minimal bottleneck (experience) so I'd say that you blindly follow stuff with how you recommend.

Just saying.

 

1. This is not about me or how I like to write my comments.

2. Of course it won't be outdated - a GPU cannot get outdated really - but the 390X will perform better over a longer time so he doesn't need to upgrade again in a few years. You simply got me wrong.

 

3. Right now, yes, but not in a few years anymore. 

 

4. You mean probably over time, right? Yes, with DirectX12 and Mantle it is getting easier and easier to run games even on higher settings, But that doesn't mean that we will stay at the current GPU horsepower. Maybe in a few years we will have cards that are twice as fast as a Titan X and are also needed to play those games, especially with higher resolutions and details.

 

5. That is exactly what I said. I just said that you probably got him wrong, when he said that there is always some kind of bottlenecking. But in this case, the CPU definitly won't bottleneck a 390X or even two of them.

 

6. I know that an AMD CPU like the 8350 can be better for certain tasks, BUT afaik we are talking here about a gaming rig. A 8350 would make no sense here, apart from a budget build. Also I never made it look bad, its just a fact that a 8350 would bottleneck a R9 390X, cause its single core performance is simply not good enough for newer AAA-titles.

[Vek1313]

1. This is not about me or how I like to write my comments.

2. Of course it won't be outdated - a GPU cannot get outdated really - but the 390X will perform better over a longer time so he doesn't need to upgrade again in a few years. You simply got me wrong.

3. Right now, yes, but not in a few years anymore.

4. You mean probably over time, right? Yes, with DirectX12 and Mantle it is getting easier and easier to run games even on higher settings, But that doesn't mean that we will stay at the current GPU horsepower. Maybe in a few years we will have cards that are twice as fast as a Titan X and are also needed to play those games, especially with higher resolutions and details.

5. That is exactly what I said. I just said that you probably got him wrong, when he said that there is always some kind of bottlenecking. But in this case, the CPU definitly won't bottleneck a 390X or even two of them.

6. I know that an AMD CPU like the 8350 can be better for certain tasks, BUT afaik we are talking here about a gaming rig. A 8350 would make no sense here, apart from a budget build. Also I never made it look bad, its just a fact that a 8350 would bottleneck a R9 390X, cause its single core performance is simply not good enough for newer AAA-titles.

Ok well from experience with the AMD FX 8320 and a R9 290 there is very minimal bottleneck, so with the 8350 being the older brother it will have minimal bottleneck with the 390x. So I'm just saying this to get proper experience out there.