Bugdet build suggestions

[Fishbird671]

Hello, I'm going to try to build a pc for around 300 euros and know almost nothing about what to choose, I would like it for basic stuff like gaming, school and photoshop , any tips?

[MLGNOSCOPEHEADSHOTGETREKT]

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/K8RKbv

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/K8RKbv/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD A10-7700K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£92.12 @ Ebuyer) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A58M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (£34.30 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  (£59.70 @ More Computers) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC) 

Case: *Inwin MANA136 WHITE ATX Mid Tower Case w/300W Power Supply  (£45.58 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Total: £269.69

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-01 01:32 GMT+0000

[CoolaxGaming]

Hello, I'm going to try to build a pc for around 300 euros and know almost nothing about what to choose, I would like it for basic stuff like gaming, school and photoshop , any tips?

At waht resolution? What games?

[Fishbird671]

At waht resolution? What games?

For the near future in the medium to high graphics range: Counter Strike: Global Offensive, Dota 2, Battlefield 3, Heroes and Generals ,Dino D-Day and World of Tanks.

Then there's Adobe phothop and Microsoft Office.

[CoolaxGaming]

For the near future in the medium to high graphics range: Counter Strike: Global Offensive, Dota 2, Battlefield 3, Heroes and Generals ,Dino D-Day and World of Tanks.

Then there's Adobe phothop and Microsoft Office.

What resolution though

[Fishbird671]

What resolution though

1440x900

[Fishbird671]

Right now I have planned only a few things:

Case: Tracer Energy no PSU USB 3.0 - 24,21 €

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €

HDD: Desktop TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 (3.5", 1TB, 32MB, SATA III-600) - 54,64 €

[ObilvionNizer]

Hello, I'm going to try to build a pc for around 300 euros and know almost nothing about what to choose, I would like it for basic stuff like gaming, school and photoshop , any tips?

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2CJnFT

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2CJnFT/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£52.39 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£63.11 @ Dabs)

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£24.25 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 750GB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£25.08 @ CCL Computers)

Case: Cooler Master Elite 350 ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply  (£56.77 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £221.60

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-01 02:17 GMT+0000

[Fishbird671]

Following these PartPicker guys it just dosen't add up for what I asked, what about a gpu? So if I remove the HDD and use my other 2 I still can't bring down the price for a decent GPU.

Case: Tracer Energy no PSU USB 3.0 - 24,21 €

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €

HDD: Desktop TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 (3.5", 1TB, 32MB, SATA III-600) - 54,64 €
Mobo: MB H97 S1150 MATX/GA-H97M-HD3 GIGA-BYTE - 84,20 €

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258, Dual Core, 3.20GHz, 3MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 53W, VGA, BOX - 70,03 €
Total is 304.77 € and if I use old HDD's I get 250.13 €, should I wait for 50€ more or go with a cheaper GPU? ASUS GT740-DCSL-2GD3 / NV GT740 / PCI-E 3.0 / 2GB DDR3 / 128-bit / Core 993MHz / Memo 1782MHz / D-Sub costs 95,06 €
 

[ObilvionNizer]

Following these PartPicker guys it just dosen't add up for what I asked, what about a gpu? So if I remove the HDD and use my other 2 I still can't bring down the price for a decent GPU.

Case: Tracer Energy no PSU USB 3.0 - 24,21 €

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €

HDD: Desktop TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 (3.5", 1TB, 32MB, SATA III-600) - 54,64 €

Mobo: MB H97 S1150 MATX/GA-H97M-HD3 GIGA-BYTE - 84,20 €

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258, Dual Core, 3.20GHz, 3MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 53W, VGA, BOX - 70,03 €

Total is 304.77 € and if I use old HDD's I get 250.13 €, should I wait for 50€ more or go with a cheaper GPU? ASUS GT740-DCSL-2GD3 / NV GT740 / PCI-E 3.0 / 2GB DDR3 / 128-bit / Core 993MHz / Memo 1782MHz / D-Sub costs 95,06 €

 

Your budget does not allow for a GPU the best thing you could get is an AMD APU. unless you can get one second hand.

[Fishbird671]

Your budget does not allow for a GPU the best thing you could get is an AMD APU. unless you can get one second hand.

How about a MSI Radeon R7 250, 2GB DDR3 (128 Bit), HDMI, DVI, would it work well with the other parts, or would be bottle-necked?

[michaelk12]

How about a MSI Radeon R7 250, 2GB DDR3 (128 Bit), HDMI, DVI, would it work well with the other parts, or would be bottle-necked?

The R7 250 is a low end, junky card. You're better off pinching your pennies for a few more weeks, or running of the integrated graphics till you can afford a Sapphire R7 260x. Here's Linus's video (it's about the R7 240, not the 250, but the concept is still the same). http://youtu.be/sph6cjJeRdI

I too am on a tight budget, making minimum wage, but it is very much worth my money to save another few weeks to get something that gives better price/performance.

[ObilvionNizer]

How about a MSI Radeon R7 250, 2GB DDR3 (128 Bit), HDMI, DVI, would it work well with the other parts, or would be bottle-necked?

 

I wouldn't choose it myself. With it being a low end card it wont allow you a much better performance over an apu.

The R7 250 is a low end, junky card. You're better off pinching your pennies for a few more weeks, or running of the integrated graphics till you can afford a Sapphire R7 260x. Here's Linus's video (it's about the R7 240, not the 250, but the concept is still the same). http://youtu.be/sph6cjJeRdI

I too am on a tight budget, making minimum wage, but it is very much worth my money to save another few weeks to get something that gives better price/performance.

Michael is correct. Hold of from paying for the parts untill you are able to gain enough money to add in a GPU.

[Fishbird671]

Well I've decided to save up some, know any good 100 euro GPU's for running games like Counter Strike: Global Ofenssive at medium graphics at atleast 50 fps?

After Linus' video looks like a Sapphire Radeon R7 260X, 1G GDDR5 (128-Bit), HDMI, DVI, DP, BULK, OC VERSION would be the best choice and only costs 121,17 € or even an ASUS GT740-DCSL-2GD3 / NV GT740 / PCI-E 3.0 / 2GB DDR3 / 128-bit / Core 993MHz / Memo 1782MHz / D-Sub / DVI-D / HDMI / HDCP for 95,06 €

[michaelk12]

Well I've decided to save up some, know any good 100 euro GPU's for running games like Counter Strike: Global Ofenssive at medium graphics at atleast 50 fps?

After Linus' video looks like a Sapphire Radeon R7 260X, 1G GDDR5 (128-Bit), HDMI, DVI, DP, BULK, OC VERSION would be the best choice and only costs 121,17 € or even an ASUS GT740-DCSL-2GD3 / NV GT740 / PCI-E 3.0 / 2GB DDR3 / 128-bit / Core 993MHz / Memo 1782MHz / D-Sub / DVI-D / HDMI / HDCP for 95,06 €

This is also a good choice http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-01gp42751kr

[Fishbird671]

From all the suggestions I am thinking of building this, tell me if there are any bottle-necks or anything that is not compatible with other parts and/or I am forgetting something:

Case: Tracer Energy no PSU USB 3.0 - 24,21 €

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €
Mobo: MB H97 S1150 MATX/GA-H97M-HD3 GIGA-BYTE - 84,20 €

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258, Dual Core, 3.20GHz, 3MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 53W, VGA, BOX - 70,03 €

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750, 1GB GDDR5 (128 Bit), HDMI, DVI, DP 122,81 €
HDD is left out aswell as a PSU, total is 372.94 €
Thinking about the GPU, which is better? A GeForce GTX 750 or a ASUS GT740? Main difference I see is GTX has 1 GB V-RAM while ASUS has 2 GB V-RAM.
I'm not a computer know-how so my speculations are probly wrong, but anyways thanks for all your help!

Well, found another snag, the Mobo is a microATX while the case acomodates ATX. Got any suggestions for a cheap case? Preferrebly a known brand.

[michaelk12]

From all the suggestions I am thinking of building this, tell me if there are any bottle-necks or anything that is not compatible with other parts and/or I am forgetting something:

Case: Tracer Energy no PSU USB 3.0 - 24,21 €

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €

Mobo: MB H97 S1150 MATX/GA-H97M-HD3 GIGA-BYTE - 84,20 €

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258, Dual Core, 3.20GHz, 3MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 53W, VGA, BOX - 70,03 €

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750, 1GB GDDR5 (128 Bit), HDMI, DVI, DP 122,81 €

HDD is left out aswell as a PSU, total is 372.94 €

Thinking about the GPU, which is better? A GeForce GTX 750 or a ASUS GT740? Main difference I see is GTX has 1 GB V-RAM while ASUS has 2 GB V-RAM.

I'm not a computer know-how so my speculations are probly wrong, but anyways thanks for all your help!

Well, found another snag, the Mobo is a microATX while the case acomodates ATX. Got any suggestions for a cheap case? Preferrebly a known brand.

A micro ATX board will fit in a atx case, and leaves you room to upgrade in the future, the only con is that the case is bigger than you need, if you have a limited amount of space under your desk. The gt 740 has 2 GB of ddr3 ram, which is much slower than the 1 gddr5 that the 750 has. Thyey added a second gigabyte to try to make up for the fact that the ram is SOOOO slow. The speed of graphics ram is usually more important than the amount. The 750 is much better. Nvidia names their cards in order of performance. 750 is a higher number than 740, so you know it is better. They are both 700 numbers, so you know that they are in the same family/generation. What site are you buying from?

[Fishbird671]

A micro ATX board will fit in a atx case, and leaves you room to upgrade in the future, the only con is that the case is bigger than you need, if you have a limited amount of space under your desk. The gt 740 has 2 GB of ddr3 ram, which is much slower than the 1 gddr5 that the 750 has. Thyey added a second gigabyte to try to make up for the fact that the ram is SOOOO slow. The speed of graphics ram is usually more important than the amount. The 750 is much better. Nvidia names their cards in order of performance. 750 is a higher number than 740, so you know it is better. They are both 700 numbers, so you know that they are in the same family/generation. What site are you buying from?

It's gonna be hard for you to navigate because its Lithuanian, but here : http://www.kilobaitas.lt/Pub/default.aspx

[Nikolaevich]

A while ago I actually figured what would be cheapest build around the G3258 and this is what I wrote down for myself.

Parts I would be using old ones: PSU,HDD's

Case Thermaltake V3 ~38€ (only cheap case with option of front+back+bottom+top fans AND can fit a big cooler)
Cooler Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212 ~28€ (yes it does fit in the case)
Motherboard ASRock H81 Pro BTC ~49€ (it does overclock on that board even up to 4.7@1.35v. Source: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948 )
RAM 2x4GB Crucial Ballistix  Sport 1600Mhz CL9 1.5V  ~64€ (just cause Ballistix is cheapest and i don't think ram matters that much if you are on a budget)

GPU XFX Radeon R9 270X ~130€ (when I saw that price, there was no other that could compete with that.)

So that is what I had found for my list when I checked prices in my country. I know prices are different everywhere but this is what was best for me. maybe it can also help you out somehow. Good luck on your price hunt.

[Fishbird671]

Case: Cooler Master Elite 241, Midl tower, with safety lock, black w/o PSU, mATX / ATX 26,79 €

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €
Mobo: ASRock H81 PRO BTC, H81, DualDDR3-1600, SATA3, ATX 56,82 €

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258, Dual Core, 3.20GHz, 3MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 53W, VGA, BOX - 70,03 €
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750, 1GB GDDR5 (128 Bit), HDMI, DVI, DP 122,81 €

Looks liek this is the best this is going to go, final price is 348.14€, cut down a bit from the motherboard.

[Nikolaevich]

 

Ram: DDR3 Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) 2400MHz CL11 1.65V - 71,69 €

 

the RAM you chose is really a beast, but I checked your motherboard specifications, and..

1. Support for DDR3 1600/1333 MHz memory modules

   EDIT: and now you chose the mobo that I suggested what is a wise choice, but you still have to reconsider your RAM, cause it also supports up to 1600Mhz RAM

[Nikolaevich]

by the way you are buying the G3258 to overclock right?
Do you have a cooler for it?
Do you have enough airflow in the case for the stock cooler?

That is why in my list there is a Thermaltake V3 Case where you can have front+bottom 120mm intake fans and back+top(or even 2) exhaust fans.
And also the infamous Hyper Evo 212 CPU Cooler what is best for it's price no matter where you are located.

Now if you have a cooler then it is great, the Cooler Master Elite case may handle some overclocking if you add a side panel intake and back exhaust fan. but only with a aftermarket cooler and even then not so much.

but if you going to use a stock cooler and in that case... please don't overclock.

and if you are not overclocking that cpu then you should reconsider buying it, just wait a while collect money and wait for the quad-core processor prices to drop.


trust me Dual-Core is not worth it if you are not clocking the hell out of it

[Fishbird671]

 

the RAM you chose is really a beast, but I checked your motherboard specifications, and..

1. Support for DDR3 1600/1333 MHz memory modules

   EDIT: and now you chose the mobo that I suggested what is a wise choice, but you still have to reconsider your RAM, cause it also supports up to 1600Mhz RAM

 

Thank you for seeing my mistake, I think Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB, DIMM,1600MHz, DDR3,CL9,XMP,Non-ECC,with Heatsink (blue) should od the trick being only 5 euro more.

[Nikolaevich]

yes that RAM fits perfect,
but what is your purpose of buying the G3258? are you going to overclock it?
What do you have prepared to keep the temperatures at a healthy level for the cpu?

if you are not going to overclock it, or you want to overclock it on a stock cooler then don't.

if you are really going that way then i have to suggest you a AMD processor that is in your budget AMD Athlon X4 860K... it is priced about the same, maybe few euros higher, but then again motherboard for it will be few euros cheaper. it is a quad core. 3.7Ghz and Turbo-Boost up to 4Ghz

I also have a strange unfinished though on the same note where I found the other parts it is


CPU AMD Athlon X4 860K ~73€  (it is a quad-core, it is a 4Ghz without overclocking and also has a good overclocking potential?!)

But that is all I wrote down, cause I am not familiar with AMD CPU's and chipsets lately.. and I was lazy to do my research.

You can get the AMD quad-core on a cheap motherboard and maintain your really tight budget (am I right? someone back me up)

I just did real fast research, like 10 min googling and with a quad core amd cpu and a cheap motherboard you also can use faster RAM

I checked a few cheapest MB's and they support 2133Mhz RAM (some only if you OC)and even 2400Hmz RAM (only OC)

So I don't know, maybe someone who is smarter and more experienced at AMD can jump into the topic and suggest something, but from where I see it, I think it is better for you to go with AMD in that case.

[Fishbird671]

I don't really plan to stress the CPU nor overclock it, I do not intend to rung games in ultra (even if I could) and have V-Sync+Antialiasing on, Medium to high settings would work for me. Looking at the cooler it won't help much because I plan to have the case under the desk, and don't have aqny experience overclocking anything.