New build help!

[TheDudeTD]

I'm currently searching for parts for my new PC build since my current one is fairly old.

 

Case: Corsair Graphite Series 780T
Power Supply: Corsair AX860i (or AX760i)
Motherboard: Asus X99-DELUXE (or X97)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 (or DDR3)
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 (or wait for Ti/990/whatever it's gonna be called to be released)
CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X (or Intel Core i7-4790K)
SSD: Corsair Force Series GS 480GB
HDD: Western Digital Red 3TB
 

A pretty solid build. But my biggest issue is water cooling. I originally intended on getting Corsair's H110i GT. Which could fit nice into the case. But I want to cool both my CPU and GPU using Corsair's liquid cooling bracket. So I'm worried if two of those coolers would be too much.

 

The radiator of the H110i GT cooler is 280mm. The 780T case has two radiator mount locations where these water coolers could fit (in the front and on the top).

 

So to sum things up, my questions is: Would two of these water coolers be too much? Would it cramp everything together and essentially ruin the performance?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Case: http://www.corsair.com/en/graphite-series-780t-full-tower-pc-case
GPU Liquid Cooling Bracket: http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-hg10-n780-gpu-liquid-cooling-bracket
Liquid CPU Cooler: http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-h110i-gt-280mm-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler

[Paralectic]

4790k on X99 isn't possible.

5820K maybe?

[ili199]

You can put a 280mm/240mm rad in the top for you CPU and put 2 single 120mm/140mm for your GPU('s) if you want to SLI them later

[TheDudeTD]

 

4790k on X99 isn't possible.

5820K maybe?

I suspected it wouldn't be possible. I don't really know much about motherboards to be honest. I was considering getting the Asus X79-Deluxe, but I don't think it supports DDR4 Memory.

 

I'll see what I'll do. Thanks.

[TheDudeTD]

You can put a 280mm/240mm rad in the top for you CPU and put 2 single 120mm/140mm for your GPU('s) if you want to SLI them later

So you think there's no need to use such a big cooler for the GPU? (I never attempted to water cool a GPU before. So I'm fairly new to this).

 

And I'm just gonna use one GPU on my new build for now. If ever end up needing some extra power, I'll add another one later on.

[Paralectic]

So you think there's no need to use such a big cooler for the GPU? (I never attempted to water cool a GPU before. So I'm fairly new to this).

 

And I'm just gonna use one GPU on my new build for now. If ever end up needing some extra power, I'll add another one later on.

The processor and the motherboad must match, 2011-3 for the 5820k/5930K/5960x and i5 4690k/i7 4690k for the 1150 chipset, etc.

[ili199]

So you think there's no need to use such a big cooler for the GPU? (I never attempted to water cool a GPU before. So I'm fairly new to this).

 

And I'm just gonna use one GPU on my new build for now. If ever end up needing some extra power, I'll add another one later on.

The 900 serie does not create a lot of heat so I think you can use a single rad to cool it. With the R9 295X2 1 120mm rad cools to R9 290X chips so 1 120mm must be good for a single 980.

But you can not use a i7 4790K you have to use a 2011-3 socked CPU!!!

[ili199]

 

 

I suspected it wouldn't be possible. I don't really know much about motherboards to be honest. I was considering getting the Asus X79-Deluxe, but I don't think it supports DDR4 Memory.

 

I'll see what I'll do. Thanks.

 

DDR4 makes very little diferance in gaming maby 2 FPS.

 

The processor and the motherboad must match, 2011-3 for the 5820k/5930K/5960x and i5 4690k/i7 4690k for the 1150 chipset, etc.

If you really need the 6/8 core capability you have to get the 5820K (6 core) 5930K (6 core) 5960X (8 core) (<- al need 2011-3 socked)

If you are only gaming get the i5 4690K and if you need the hyper treading get the i7 4790K (<- need the 1150 socked)

[TheDudeTD]

The 900 serie does not create a lot of heat so I think you can use a single rad to cool it. With the R9 295X2 1 120mm rad cools to R9 290X chips so 1 120mm must be good for a single 980.

But you can not use a i7 4790K you have to use a 2011-3 socked CPU!!!

Alright. Thanks for the advice.

 

And yeah, Paralectic already told me that. I'm still searching for which parts to use. Haven't made my final decision yet.

 

DDR4 makes very little diferance in gaming maby 2 FPS.

 

If you really need the 6/8 core capability you have to get the 5820K (6 core) 5930K (6 core) 5960X (8 core) (<- al need 2011-3 socked)

If you are only gaming get the i5 4690K and if you need the hyper treading get the i7 4790K (<- need the 1150 socked)

I'm well aware that DDR4 memory doesn't make much difference in gaming. But that's not why I intend on buying it. It's more power efficient than DDR3 and it runs faster. They're great for overclocking. Plus, I'm not really a gamer. I'm more into music production, video editing, design (Photoshop) and things like that. So more faster RAM is better for me. And the way technology is progressing nowadays, DDR4 is gonna become a standard sooner or later.

 

In most cases, the frequency of the processor is more important than the number of cores. But with the 5960X I get almost the same speed, with double the cores of the 4790K. And if cooled correctly, it can be up to 4.5GHz. But like I mentioned above, I haven't made my final decision yet. I'm probably gonna wait a few more months for the prices to drop.

 

Thanks for the replies though. I really appreciate it.

[Dash Lambda]

Okay people have touched on most of the stuff, but it's not really coherent so I'll put it all together and add a couple bits:

First of all, MB/CPU/RAM:

The 4790k is socket 1150, which means it is not compatible with the X99 or DDR4. I'd suggest an ASUS Z97 board and Corsair's higher end DDR3, 32gb if you're really going to use it.

The 5960x is socket 2011 and so will work with the X99 and DDR4, actually 64gb of DDR4. That's way past the point of diminishing returns, though. If you have money, go ahead. If you're on a budget, don't dump all of it into those components.

 

GPU:

The GPU seems good, though that also leave diminishing returns in its dust. If you're on a budget, the 970 is only just behind the 980 and is $200 less. If you have money, go for it. If you don't have THAT much money, the 970 is a better bet.

Storage:

 

Something to understand is that what specific drive you choose, and what you're using it for, is more important information than the capacity. Try to look at Kingston and Intel SSD's and WD or Seagate HDD's.

 

Cooling:

 

The bracket Corsair makes for Nvidia cards doesn't work with the GTX-9xx series. It works with the 7xx series and the titan, if I recall, but not the 9xx series. If you want to water cool it, then it'll be a bit more expensive and take a bit more work. You can buy everything you need at FrozenCPU and I'm sure this forum has tons of threads on setting up GPU water cooling, as well as there being an actual Linus Tech Tips video on it if I recall.

The CPU cooler is, well, it's the one I have, it works great. If you have money to spare, I suggest getting Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM fans for it. They're all black, they're made considerably better than the cooler's stock fans, they'll last longer, they'll push air better, they'll be much quieter.

[TheDudeTD]

Okay people have touched on most of the stuff, but it's not really coherent so I'll put it all together and add a couple bits:

First of all, MB/CPU/RAM:

The 4790k is socket 1150, which means it is not compatible with the X99 or DDR4. I'd suggest an ASUS Z97 board and Corsair's higher end DDR3, 32gb if you're really going to use it.

The 5960x is socket 2011 and so will work with the X99 and DDR4, actually 64gb of DDR4. That's way past the point of diminishing returns, though. If you have money, go ahead. If you're on a budget, don't dump all of it into those components.

 

GPU:

The GPU seems good, though that also leave diminishing returns in its dust. If you're on a budget, the 970 is only just behind the 980 and is $200 less. If you have money, go for it. If you don't have THAT much money, the 970 is a better bet.

Storage:

 

Something to understand is that what specific drive you choose, and what you're using it for, is more important information than the capacity. Try to look at Kingston and Intel SSD's and WD or Seagate HDD's.

 

Cooling:

 

The bracket Corsair makes for Nvidia cards doesn't work with the GTX-9xx series. It works with the 7xx series and the titan, if I recall, but not the 9xx series. If you want to water cool it, then it'll be a bit more expensive and take a bit more work. You can buy everything you need at FrozenCPU and I'm sure this forum has tons of threads on setting up GPU water cooling, as well as there being an actual Linus Tech Tips video on it if I recall.

The CPU cooler is, well, it's the one I have, it works great. If you have money to spare, I suggest getting Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM fans for it. They're all black, they're made considerably better than the cooler's stock fans, they'll last longer, they'll push air better, they'll be much quieter.

As you probably already know, I'm well aware that the 4790K isn't compatible with the X99. Since I haven't made my final decision yet, these are parts that I'm actually just considering buying. I know that in terms of gaming DDR4 doesn't outrun DDR3. But I'm not really that into games anyway. In terms of video editing for example, I'm pretty sure it will help out a lot. Although the biggest reason why I'm looking at this newer 'generation' of PC components is because they're gonna become a standard pretty soon (at least that's what I think). So I'm most likely gonna wait for prices to drop anyway. Even though I'm not really on a budget.

 

Like I mentioned above, I'm on not really on a budget. So I'll probably go with the GTX 980(Ti/990/whatever it's gonna be called).

 

As for storage, I'll probably go with Corsair's Force Series GS 480GB SSD, and Western Digital Red 3TB HDD.

 

And I actually didn't know that. Do you think they'll ever make one? I don't really feel comfortable installing a water block cooler on a GPU myself. And yes, there is a video about that on Linus' channel.

 

I wasn't really concerned if the cooler was good or bad. What actually worried me is if two of those would be too much inside the case. Would it be too cramped? Would it stop any airflow and somehow maybe make the PC perform slower? But ili199 already replied that since the GTX 980 doesn't generate much heat, a single rad cooler would be more than enough for it.

 

As for the fans, I was considering getting different ones for the cooler anyway. So thanks for the great suggestion. Also, just want to make things clear that I don't really care much about the aesthetics of my PC. What actually matters to me is the performance.

[Dash Lambda]

Yeah, people were saying most of the things about the main components throughout the thread, I just wanted to put it all together in one section.

If you're not on a budget, that just means you're on a big budget. So... If your budget allows, a Titan might actually be a card to look at. It's ludicrously expensive, but it kind of runs circles around everything else, has a few more features, and you can actually use Corsair's GPU bracket with it. It really isn't worth the price, but if you really, really, have the money, you should consider it.

 

That, or maybe look at how SLI 980's compare.

 

Storage seems fine...

It's really not that hard to install a water block, but- There's no way to really tell if Corsair will ever make a water bracket for 900 series cards. Reasonably, they will... But they made the current bracket after the 900 series came out, sooo....
Basically, see the GPU bit a couple paragraphs above^

Most of the manufacturers making 980 cards have this 'feature' they're dancing around with where they don't actually have the fan on it turn on until it hits around 60 degrees, and in my experience, it rarely actually turns on. So it isn't going to get hot anyway unless you really push it. In terms or rads in the case, it says that the top and front are rad mounts and, since it's corsair, I would assume they're including their closed loops into that generalization. 
Oh, and unless you don't have an exhaust fan in the back or something like that, you're golden. Only really, really, really poor planning can actually make airflow and internal temps a problem in a setup like that. I have my machine in a HAF XB EVO with a H110iGT rad on the front intake blowing over everything, not to mention that my chip is overclocked quite a bit, and all my temps are fine.

 

To see exactly why I recommend those fans, Linus's video on them does a pretty good job explaining.
Wow, it's hard to find something he DOESN'T have a video on...

[TheDudeTD]

Yeah, people were saying most of the things about the main components throughout the thread, I just wanted to put it all together in one section.

If you're not on a budget, that just means you're on a big budget. So... If your budget allows, a Titan might actually be a card to look at. It's ludicrously expensive, but it kind of runs circles around everything else, has a few more features, and you can actually use Corsair's GPU bracket with it. It really isn't worth the price, but if you really, really, have the money, you should consider it.

 

That, or maybe look at how SLI 980's compare.

 

Storage seems fine...

It's really not that hard to install a water block, but- There's no way to really tell if Corsair will ever make a water bracket for 900 series cards. Reasonably, they will... But they made the current bracket after the 900 series came out, sooo....

Basically, see the GPU bit a couple paragraphs above^

Most of the manufacturers making 980 cards have this 'feature' they're dancing around with where they don't actually have the fan on it turn on until it hits around 60 degrees, and in my experience, it rarely actually turns on. So it isn't going to get hot anyway unless you really push it. In terms or rads in the case, it says that the top and front are rad mounts and, since it's corsair, I would assume they're including their closed loops into that generalization. 

Oh, and unless you don't have an exhaust fan in the back or something like that, you're golden. Only really, really, really poor planning can actually make airflow and internal temps a problem in a setup like that. I have my machine in a HAF XB EVO with a H110iGT rad on the front intake blowing over everything, not to mention that my chip is overclocked quite a bit, and all my temps are fine.

 

To see exactly why I recommend those fans, Linus's video on them does a pretty good job explaining.

Wow, it's hard to find something he DOESN'T have a video on...

Well, the Titan is a little too much for my taste. It's just overkill. And I don't really want to spend that much money. I did intend to SLI the 980 sometimes later on. But for now, I think one will do just fine.

 

I know it's not really complicated to install a water block. I guess I'm just afraid of screwing something up. To water cool my GPU was just like a bonus to me. I mean, I know that the 980 doesn't heat up much. But if there's a way to water cool it, why not do it? Couldn't hurt. I guess I'll just go with the 980 and buy a water cooling bracket from Corsair in the future, if they ever release it.

 

So what you're saying is even if it was possible to use Corsair's cooling bracket on my GPU, and I installed the two H110iGT's (one on top, and one on the front), it wouldn't 'mess up' the overall airflow inside the case?

 

And yeah, Linus has videos on EVERYTHING! x)

[Guest]

There is a product recall on the Corsair H110i GT on one of the UK Forums.  

 

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18656191

[Dash Lambda]

Well, the Titan is a little too much for my taste. It's just overkill. And I don't really want to spend that much money. I did intend to SLI the 980 sometimes later on. But for now, I think one will do just fine.

 

I know it's not really complicated to install a water block. I guess I'm just afraid of screwing something up. To water cool my GPU was just like a bonus to me. I mean, I know that the 980 doesn't heat up much. But if there's a way to water cool it, why not do it? Couldn't hurt. I guess I'll just go with the 980 and buy a water cooling bracket from Corsair in the future, if they ever release it.

 

So what you're saying is even if it was possible to use Corsair's cooling bracket on my GPU, and I installed the two H110iGT's (one on top, and one on the front), it wouldn't 'mess up' the overall airflow inside the case?

 

And yeah, Linus has videos on EVERYTHING! x)

 

Yeah, that is what I'm saying.

Unless you intend to run all your hardware at 100% all the time, or leave it rendering videos for hours on end, you don't need to put all that much consideration into airflow. Just make sure to put one or two outflow fans in it, usually in the back or on a side panel mount if you have one.

[Joshua Ondangan]

I'm currently searching for parts for my new PC build since my current one is fairly old.

 

Case: Corsair Graphite Series 780T

Power Supply: Corsair AX860i (or AX760i)

Motherboard: Asus X99-DELUXE (or X97)

RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 (or DDR3)

GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 (or wait for Ti/990/whatever it's gonna be called to be released)

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X (or Intel Core i7-4790K)

SSD: Corsair Force Series GS 480GB

HDD: Western Digital Red 3TB

 

Case: should be personal but it's pretty good.

psu: either are awesome no complains

mobo: go x99 and with the 8core one no point going 6core with your budget.

ram: ddr4 for x99 and should be fine.

gpu: gtx 980 or in sli or whatever comes out should be fine.

cpu: just go 5960x

ssd: should be fine

HDD: Western digital black 2tb/3tb for games etc. and a western digital red 3tb for media and other content stuff storage solution and you're good to go.

[TheDudeTD]

Thanks everyone for the great replies. I really appreciate it