Editing CPU Choice?

[SYPH]

Hello first time builder here. I'm 16 year old junior in high school currently, and is what wondering what's a good cpu for doing the purposes of what I do. From my understanding, AMD has 4 cores and each core has 1 logical core, and has lower IPC? The games I play are CS:GO, Dota 2, and private server Maplestory. I use editing software a lot, Krita software for those anime/cartoon drawings, & photoshop. I usually have a lot of chrome tabs, tutorial guides, and apps open since i'm still a editing rookie. My overall budget is $850 w/ IPS monitor, and CM Devastator Bundle. I want a theme build, so that my first build can be memorable. I want this to last 2 years. And please I need a solid state drive .  

[Aniallation]

Hello first time builder here. I'm 16 year old junior in high school currently, and is what wondering what's a good cpu for doing the purposes of what I do. From my understanding, AMD has 4 cores and each core has 1 logical core, and has lower IPC? The games I play are CS:GO, Dota 2, and private server Maplestory. I use editing software a lot, Krita software for those anime/cartoon drawings, & photoshop. I usually have a lot of chrome tabs, tutorial guides, and apps open since i'm still a editing rookie. My overall budget is $850 w/ IPS monitor, and CM Devastator Bundle. I want a theme build, so that my first build can be memorable. I want this to last 2 years. And please I need a solid state drive .  

Below the cost of a locked i5, FX will be better then what Intel has to offer for the price range. However if you can afford a Xeon E3-1231V3 then that will be much better for editing.

[79wjd]

In terms of rendering performance: 4790k > Xeon E3 1231V3 > 4690k > FX8320 > locke i5 > FX6300.

 

Whats your location? and does that $850 include an OS? 

 

 

Assuming the US and you don't need a copy of windows: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($40.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($70.98 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($152.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Monitor: Dell S2340L 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.88 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator - OEM Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($17.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $803.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-01 00:35 EST-0500

[D2ultima]

Hello first time builder here. I'm 16 year old junior in high school currently, and is what wondering what's a good cpu for doing the purposes of what I do. From my understanding, AMD has 4 cores and each core has 1 logical core, and has lower IPC? The games I play are CS:GO, Dota 2, and private server Maplestory. I use editing software a lot, Krita software for those anime/cartoon drawings, & photoshop. I usually have a lot of chrome tabs, tutorial guides, and apps open since i'm still a editing rookie. My overall budget is $850 w/ IPS monitor, and CM Devastator Bundle. I want a theme build, so that my first build can be memorable. I want this to last 2 years. And please I need a solid state drive .  

No. AMD's flagship has 8 full cores, but each 2 cores share a single floating point processing unit. IF you are doing FPU calculations, it'll only be as good as a quadcore, basically. Aside from that, there are 8 full cores in the FX 8xxx CPUs.

 

Intel has a much stronger IPC, but to be quite honest, if you're going to use heavily multi-threaded apps, you're better off grabbing an FX-8350 or something similar and overclocking it a little bit, unless you can afford an i7. And i7-4790K, no matter what you do, will beat anything AMD has to offer, right out of its box. But since your budget is so limited, I'd suggest the AMD CPU in your case. CS:GO/DoTA 2/etc aren't gonna need a gigantic IPC so you shouldn't need to worry.

[Mattr567]

Hello first time builder here. I'm 16 year old junior in high school currently, and is what wondering what's a good cpu for doing the purposes of what I do. From my understanding, AMD has 4 cores and each core has 1 logical core, and has lower IPC? The games I play are CS:GO, Dota 2, and private server Maplestory. I use editing software a lot, Krita software for those anime/cartoon drawings, & photoshop. I usually have a lot of chrome tabs, tutorial guides, and apps open since i'm still a editing rookie. My overall budget is $850 w/ IPS monitor, and CM Devastator Bundle. I want a theme build, so that my first build can be memorable. I want this to last 2 years. And please I need a solid state drive .  

 

With your budget, a FX 8 Core gives 8 cores at a cheaper cost than a comparable 4 core Intel CPU

I use mine with Blender (3D modeling software) and runs it like a champ.

It isnt bad in games either. Doesnt bottleneck my 970.

[SYPH]

In terms of rendering performance: 4790k > Xeon E3 1231V3 > 4690k > FX8320 > locke i5 > FX6300.

 

Whats your location? and does that $850 include an OS? 

Hi there, currently residing in the states, no os

[79wjd]

Hi there, currently residing in the states, no os

Depending on the GPU acceleration in those programs, you could also go with a slower cheaper R9 270~ and get a 4790k. As even integrated graphics can run games like Dota just fine, and an R9 270 is quite a bit faster than that. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($40.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($70.98 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($152.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Monitor: Dell S2340L 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.88 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator - OEM Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($17.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $803.67 ($860 before rebates)

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-01 00:35 EST-0500

[Prastupok]

I know this is leading you to more information than you need, but it still is handy.

 

Doing research into processor families makes these kinds of decisions easier.

 

http://ark.intel.com/

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/desktop/fx#5

 

That being said Intel is usually quite a bit more powerful, BUT more costly, so finding the right balance for you can be tricky.

[SYPH]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($40.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory  ($70.98 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.88 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($152.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Micro Center) 

Monitor: Dell S2340L 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.88 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator - OEM Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($17.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $803.67 ($860 before rebates)

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-01 00:35 EST-0500

 

I already have 2 sticks of 8 GB from my mom's old pc, could you possibly get a board with 4 slots because i do plan on getting another 2 stick of 8 gb for 16 gb

[79wjd]

I already have 2 sticks of 8 GB from my mom's old pc, could you possibly get a board with 4 slots because i do plan on getting another 2 stick of 8 gb for 16 gb

You might also consider getting a 4790k + MSI Z97 PC Mate + Cooler Master Hyper 212 and going with an R9 270 (depending on how GPU acceleration works in the programs you use) as an R9 270 can easily play games like Dota 2. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.97 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Corsair Force LS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($182.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.99 @ NCIX US) 

Monitor: Dell S2340L 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.88 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator - OEM Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($23.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $859.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-01 00:42 EST-0500

[SYPH]

 

You might also consider getting a 4790k + MSI Z97 PC Mate + Cooler Master Hyper 212 and going with an R9 270 (depending on how GPU acceleration works in the programs you use) as an R9 270 can easily play games like Dota 2. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.97 @ OutletPC) 

Storage: Corsair Force LS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($182.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.99 @ NCIX US) 

Monitor: Dell S2340L 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($149.88 @ Amazon) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator - OEM Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($23.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $859.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-01 00:42 EST-0500

 

Isn't the 4790k like 300 dollars?

[Prastupok]

Isn't the 4790k like 300 dollars?

 

I will just say what is true for 90% of critical components... you get what you pay for.

[SYPH]

With your budget, a FX 8 Core gives 8 cores at a cheaper cost than a comparable 4 core Intel CPU

I use mine with Blender (3D modeling software) and runs it like a champ.

It isnt bad in games either. Doesnt bottleneck my 970.

 

No. AMD's flagship has 8 full cores, but each 2 cores share a single floating point processing unit. IF you are doing FPU calculations, it'll only be as good as a quadcore, basically. Aside from that, there are 8 full cores in the FX 8xxx CPUs.

 

Intel has a much stronger IPC, but to be quite honest, if you're going to use heavily multi-threaded apps, you're better off grabbing an FX-8350 or something similar and overclocking it a little bit, unless you can afford an i7. And i7-4790K, no matter what you do, will beat anything AMD has to offer, right out of its box. But since your budget is so limited, I'd suggest the AMD CPU in your case. CS:GO/DoTA 2/etc aren't gonna need a gigantic IPC so you shouldn't need to worry.

What is bottlenecking? If it helps, i don't play a lot of games. Can't seem to afford 50 bucks a title nowadays 

[Prastupok]

What is bottlenecking?

When one component reduces the performance of a completely different component.

 

i.e. If your CPU has less than enough PCI lanes, so it reduces GPU performance.

[79wjd]

Isn't the 4790k like 300 dollars?

It's like $330, and a suitable motherboard is like $80~. I also said that before I noticed you needed an ssd -- which makes squeezing a 4790k in difficult. Without an ssd, you could go down to an R9 270 and then you would be able to afford a 4790k+z97 board+a cooler. Like I said, for games like Dota, an R9 270 is more than enough -- but if you'd possibly play other games in the future, then an R9 280 is worthwhile.

[SYPH]

It's like $330, and a suitable motherboard is like $80~. I also said that before I noticed you needed an ssd -- which makes squeezing a 4790k in difficult. Without an ssd, you could go down to an R9 270 and then you would be able to afford a 4790k+z97 board+a cooler. Like I said, for games like Dota, an R9 270 is more than enough -- but if you'd possibly play other games in the future, then an R9 280 is worthwhile.

oh ok. sadly i won't be playing another other games until i find a new job after getting fired

[79wjd]

oh ok. sadly i won't be playing another other games until i find a new job after getting fired

Well seeing as you no longer have a job...here's a question for you....

What exactly are you rendering? (is render time a critical thing) and whats the likelihood of you playing other games in the very near future?

 

The reason I ask, is because you can theoretically go with an i5-4690k and no gpu, and just game off integrated graphics (which is fine for Dota 2/CSGO/and probably maple story). The total cost being around $700 rather than $850~. Saving you money -- and you can always get a gpu down the line.

[SYPH]

Well seeing as you no longer have a job...here's a question for you....

What exactly are you rendering? (is render time a critical thing) and whats the likelihood of you playing other games in the very near future?

 

The reason I ask, is because you can theoretically go with an i5-4690k and no gpu, and just game off integrated graphics (which is fine for Dota 2/CSGO/and probably maple story). The total cost being around $700 rather than $850~. 

i don't know what render is, but i like do use krita software for anime drawings, and use photo shop alot. Also i probably just plan to get skyrim, and thats it

[Prastupok]

i don't know what render is, but i like do use krita software for anime drawings, and use photo shop alot. Also i probably just plan to get skyrim, and thats it

Renders are finished compiles of all previous work for said piece of the project.

[Mattr567]

What is bottlenecking? If it helps, i don't play a lot of games. Can't seem to afford 50 bucks a title nowadays 

 

When your CPU cant keep up with your GPU in this example.

And as a result reduces or holds back you GPU, costing performance in games.

 

Example a old Pentium 4 with a GTX 980, a extreme example, but you get the point.

 

A FX 8370 or 8350 will bottleneck, lets say a 2 way or 3 way SLI config with 970's, but its perfect for your needs.

 

As a side note, bottleneck can appear anywhere in a given system. 

PSU doesnt have enough wattage for example, or a cheap motherboard holding back a high end CPU.