Help with new build

[Yanana]

Hi all, this is a build that I have been fiddling around with. I'm going to be using it for gaming. My budget is around AUD $1500. I got a lg e2342v from my friend and he is also helping me get windows. Is there anything I should change?

PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Mt2pNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Mt2pNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($245.00 @ CPL Online)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ CPL Online)

Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.00 @ CPL Online)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($105.00 @ CPL Online)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.00 @ IJK)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.00 @ Centre Com)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($519.00 @ CPL Online)

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)

Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.00 @ CPL Online)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.00 @ CPL Online)

Total: $1470.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-15 04:08 EST+1100

Edit : I am going to upgrade to a 4690k and getting a samsung 840 evo 250 gb.

Also if i can get my budget increased to AUD$2000 what upgrades should i go for?

[79wjd]

Get a 4690k (and lose the ODD unless you actually need it) 

 

I'd also consider spend a bit more and getting a SLI capable motherboard. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.00 @ PLE Computers) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($36.00 @ CPL Online) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($170.00 @ CPL Online) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($94.00 @ Centre Com) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.00 @ IJK) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($98.00 @ Centre Com) 

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($519.00 @ CPL Online) 

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($98.00 @ CPL Online) 

Total: $1514.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-15 04:14 EST+1100

[OhhTee]

Get a 46890k i5 and upgrade the capacity of the ssd, you're gonna want it. 120 gb goes really fast now. The crucial mx100 256 gb is a good alternate for a cheaper price.

[minibois]

I would personally suggest a 1 TB HDD and a 256 GB SSD, but personal preference.. 

And why is the 970 519 dollars? Is that Australian dollars and the cheapest? It's about 350 US dollars or euros.

[SuperPug]

H97 mobo with that cpu since its not overclockable anyways.. Or an K series cpu with that mobo

[SuperPug]

I would personally suggest a 1 TB HDD and a 256 GB SSD, but personal preference.. 

And why is the 970 519 dollars? Is that Australian dollars and the cheapest? It's about 350 US dollars or euros.

 

Aussie hardware prices are nuts....

[OhhTee]

Aussie hardware prices are nuts....

I feel bad for aussies.

[Yanana]

Get a 4690k (and lose the ODD unless you actually need it) 

 

I'd also consider spend a bit more and getting a SLI capable motherboard. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($294.00 @ PLE Computers) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($36.00 @ CPL Online) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($170.00 @ CPL Online) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($94.00 @ Centre Com) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.00 @ IJK) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($98.00 @ Centre Com) 

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($519.00 @ CPL Online) 

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($98.00 @ CPL Online) 

Total: $1514.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-15 04:14 EST+1100

  

Get a 46890k i5 and upgrade the capacity of the ssd, you're gonna want it. 120 gb goes really fast now. The crucial mx100 256 gb is a good alternate for a cheaper price.

  

I would personally suggest a 1 TB HDD and a 256 GB SSD, but personal preference.. 

And why is the 970 519 dollars? Is that Australian dollars and the cheapest? It's about 350 US dollars or euros.

  

H97 mobo with that cpu since its not overclockable anyways.. Or an K series cpu with that mobo

I am not going to SLI for the foreseeable future. I do not need to play a game on full AA and ultra settings. I'll think about the 4690k. Or maybe downgrade to H97. The reason it took a 120GB SSD was that I am only going to use it to only store the OS and 1 MMO game that I'm playing now. And yea prices here are killers.

[Yanana]

bump

[OhhTee]

bump

Could you update your build with a pcpartlink jusy for us to see what you changed?

[Yanana]

Could you update your build with a pcpartlink jusy for us to see what you changed?

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Yanana/saved/gtVfrH

[OhhTee]

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Yanana/saved/gtVfrH

That looks like a very solid build. What else are you trying to improve?

[Yanana]

That looks like a very solid build. What else are you trying to improve?

Hmm. Maybe add an AIO cooler?

[OhhTee]

Hmm. Maybe add an AIO cooler?

I don't think an aio cooler is really necessary unless you plan on hardcore over clocking, and live somewhere really hot.

[Yanana]

I don't think an aio cooler is really necessary unless you plan on hardcore over clocking, and live somewhere really hot.

But it would lower my temps and has no need for maintenance right?

[79wjd]

But it would lower my temps and has no need for maintenance right?

Something like a Noctua NH D15 would have the same low temps with literally no maintenance (while an AIO doesn't require any maintenance there is one more component that can fail -- pump).

[stconquest]

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/X3JvmG

 

When the time comes and you want more performance, build a custom loop to cool your CPU/GPU. 

 

[Yanana]

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/X3JvmG

 

When the time comes and you want more performance, build a custom loop to cool your CPU/GPU. 

 

Hmm. I wont be needing an SLI. Also the i5-4670k is only available from a company based in western australia (too far away).

[Yanana]

Something like a Noctua NH D15 would have the same low temps with literally no maintenance (while an AIO doesn't require any maintenance there is one more component that can fail -- pump).

I'll look into the noctua. Not really liking the color of the fans tho.

[stconquest]

I did not pick the board for the SLI.  I picked it for the better VRM.  If you are planning to go Noctua, you are planning to OC.  The VRM is directly related to how well you can OC your CPU.  The 212 EVO is a fantasic budget cooler...there is a reason is is THE goto budget cooler.

[Yanana]

I did not pick the board for the SLI.  I picked it for the better VRM.  If you are planning to go Noctua, you are planning to OC.  The VRM is directly related to how well you can OC your CPU.  The 212 EVO is a fantasic budget cooler...there is a reason is is THE goto budget cooler.

Oh. Didnt know that about the mobo. How much difference would there be in OC between the msi z97 g55 and the asrock z97 anni?

[stconquest]

I have a very basic understanding of VRMs, but here goes:  if you look at the area at the top of the boards, where all the fancy heatsinks are, you will see the VRM (Voltage Regulation Module).  This area is responsible for providing the different areas of the board with stable power.  The little black squares under the heatsinks are called Chokes.  MOFSETS are usually farther underneath the heatsink, and capacitors are the little cylinders usually in the front.  Although it is not always the case, the more channels(or "phases") of power you have, the more stable energy you can supply to your CPU... and the cooler your VRM is.  If the VRM blows due to faulty construction, or just too much work... it can take the CPU with it (not a big concern with todays safety features). 

 

Like I said I have a rudimentary understanding of VRMs.  I usually count the number of chokes as they are easy to see.  You can always just search to find the number of phases for any particular motherboard... but I usually just count the chokes.

 

Note:  The VRM takes power from you power supply and reduces the voltage for you CPU.  Steady, clean power is what you want out of that area of the motherboard.

 

Watch the video here of a basic understanding:

 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1229-anatomy-of-a-motherboard-what-is-a-vrm-mosfet#!

[Yanana]

-snip-

 

What kind of difference would there be if you OC with the 2 mobo?

[stconquest]

I have not checked this (you can do it), so it is an estimation.  The AsRock runs a 4+1 power phase that means 3 phases are used for the CPU (4-1=3).  The MSI is probably 8+1, meaning 7 phases for the CPU.  So the MSI is possibly capable of providing enough CLEAN power to the CPU for more than twice the overclock room.  But this is just a guess, it could even be more.