first time building a computer help!

[callmecars]

help with some constructive criticism please, I'm trying to build a computer that's average for video editing (meaning fast rendering speeds and smooth to use while editing, but not for high end 3d projects and other complicated editing projects), good to great gaming, and of course high quality video watching (which I assume would be there if the first two categories are achieved). I've done some research and also checked page 5000 which is where I based some of my parts from. I just want to know if these parts are worth the money, or if there are other better or equally good parts that are cheaper. Lastly of course I want to know if these parts would even be compatible, or fit with each other. The most I'm unsure of is the case and the size of the graphics card (if the graphics card will fit in with the case, since I've read on other forums that sometimes they don't and you just waste your money).

CPU - AMD FX-8370E Eight-Core
GPU - Sapphire R9-270X Dual-X OC 2GB DDR5 256bit Boost Full
MOBO - am3+ Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
SSD - Crucial MX100 256gb sata
RAM - Gskill Ripjaws X 16GB 8gbx2 DDR3 1866 CL10
PSU - Corsair CS650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
CASE - NZXT Guardian 921 RB Black Steel

If you'll see I only plan on having an SSD for now, any tips on what of HDD would be good for my purposes.

EDIT:

oh and of course I wouldn't want to bottleneck any of the components so if you guys have thoughts that one of these parts might pull the other down then please enlighten me.

and another thing I wanted to add was that I plan on saving the graphics card for last, even though I did say I want this to be for good gaming also, I think I can live on a month or two with the IGPU if it means that I'll get to buy a GPU that's worth it

[Guest]

Everything looks good but except that case. Its ugly.

You don't need one more storage disc?

[Paul_VB]

help with some constructive criticism please, I'm trying to build a computer that's average for video editing (meaning fast rendering speeds and smooth to use while editing, but not for high end 3d projects and other complicated editing projects), good to great gaming, and of course high quality video watching (which I assume would be there if the first two categories are achieved). I've done some research and also checked page 5000 which is where I based some of my parts from. I just want to know if these parts are worth the money, or if there are other better or equally good parts that are cheaper. Lastly of course I want to know if these parts would even be compatible, or fit with each other. The most I'm unsure of is the case and the size of the graphics card (if the graphics card will fit in with the case, since I've read on other forums that sometimes they don't and you just waste your money).

CPU - AMD FX-8370E Eight-Core

GPU - Sapphire R9-270X Dual-X OC 2GB DDR5 256bit Boost Full

MOBO - am3+ Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3

SSD - Crucial MX100 256gb sata

RAM - Gskill Ripjaws X 16GB 8gbx2 DDR3 1866 CL10

PSU - Corsair CS650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply

CASE - NZXT Guardian 921 RB Black Steel

If you'll see I only plan on having an SSD for now, any tips on what of HDD would be good for my purposes.

 

It mostly looks like a pretty great build, but if youre going with the FX series, youre gonna need a good CPU cooler. something like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a decent mid-rage cooler, or if you want something a bit higher end go with a Noctua NH-D15

 

that ram might be a bit overkill. if you wanna save money, go with 8 GB. also dont go with Gskill. use something like corsair or crucial

 

As for a future HDD upgrade... really anything will work as long as it has enough storage capacity for you. I'd reccomend looking at a WD caviar black 1TB drive

[teddyteddyteddy]

I think a locked i5 with a h81 motherboard would be cheaper than the 8370 and ga990fx....  an i5 would perform better in games and be pretty similar in video editing.

[Guest]

It mostly looks like a pretty great build, but if youre going with the FX series, youre gonna need a good CPU cooler. something like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a decent mid-rage cooler, or if you want something a bit higher end go with a Noctua NH-D15

 

that ram might be a bit overkill. if you wanna save money, go with 8 GB. also dont go with Gskill. use something like corsair or crucial

 

As for a future HDD upgrade... really anything will work as long as it has enough storage capacity for you. I'd reccomend looking at a WD caviar black 1TB drive

If he wont overclock it than he does't need aftermarket cooler

[Paul_VB]

If he wont overclock it than he does't need aftermarket cooler

the FX series get really really hot, even at stock speeds.. besides, all stock coolers suck. If hes going with a build as nice as this, he might as well have decent CPU coioler

[teddyteddyteddy]

It mostly looks like a pretty great build, but if youre going with the FX series, youre gonna need a good CPU cooler. something like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a decent mid-rage cooler, or if you want something a bit higher end go with a Noctua NH-D15

the 8370 is $190...

motherboard is $130...

212 evo is $30..

that is $350 

 

xeon e3 1231v3  is $250

h81 or similar mobo is $60 ish

around $300, and the xeon should be better in everything

[Guest]

the FX series get really really hot, even at stock speeds.. besides, all stock coolers suck. If hes going with a build as nice as this, he might as well have decent CPU coioler

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[Mr.Froggy]

If you are planning on doing alot of video editing, and also play alot of games, i think you should get a big hard drive.

The SSD is good enough to have the OS on, but you need something alot larger for keeping you games/videos.

I think a 3 Terabyte WD Black hard drive would do the job

[callmecars]

Everything looks good but except that case. Its ugly.

You don't need one more storage disc?

hmm I really am having a difficult time with the case since it's my first build and I really don't know how to choose yet. besides aesthetics would you say the specs of the case is good enough? or will is there a better case that looks more aesthetic, has better specs, with a decent price?

with the storage I'm willing to start off with an SSD for now and buy a HDD later on since money is an issue.

[Guest]

hmm I really am having a difficult time with the case since it's my first build and I really don't know how to choose yet. besides aesthetics would you say the specs of the case is good enough? or will is there a better case that looks more aesthetic, has better specs, with a decent price?

with the storage I'm willing to start off with an SSD for now and buy a HDD later on since money is an issue.

for little more $ I would go for corsair 330R

[callmecars]

It mostly looks like a pretty great build, but if youre going with the FX series, youre gonna need a good CPU cooler. something like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a decent mid-rage cooler, or if you want something a bit higher end go with a Noctua NH-D15

 

that ram might be a bit overkill. if you wanna save money, go with 8 GB. also dont go with Gskill. use something like corsair or crucial

 

As for a future HDD upgrade... really anything will work as long as it has enough storage capacity for you. I'd reccomend looking at a WD caviar black 1TB drive

thanks for the tip on the CPU cooler I'll consider adding that in.

 

so you'd say I won't need as much ram for decent video editing & gaming? would 8gb be enough? and what speed should I get? 1600? 1866? and sorry in the forums here in my country everybody keeps saying to go with Gskill so I thought it was good enough...

 

how big is the disparity between the different colors of the WD HDDs? I was thinking to buy the green one since its price is almost half of the black one (4tb)

[Paul_VB]

thanks for the tip on the CPU cooler I'll consider adding that in.

 

so you'd say I won't need as much ram for decent video editing & gaming? would 8gb be enough? and what speed should I get? 1600? 1866? and sorry in the forums here in my country everybody keeps saying to go with Gskill so I thought it was good enough...

 

how big is the disparity between the different colors of the WD HDDs? I was thinking to buy the green one since its price is almost half of the black one (4tb)

Gskill is OK ram, but its kinda overpriced. Judging my the rest of your build though, i can see you're not on a very tight budget. 8 GB should be enough, and if you find that you need more, you can always upgrade to 16.

 

As for HDDs, the colors dont affect it THAT much, but general green drives are made for power saving, blacks are for performance, reds are for servers and 24/7 operation, blues are kinda average (nothing special about blues). There's not too much performance difference between the drives, especially seeing how you'll have an SSD for the boot drive

[callmecars]

the 8370 is $190...

motherboard is $130...

212 evo is $30..

that is $350 

 

xeon e3 1231v3  is $250

h81 or similar mobo is $60 ish

around $300, and the xeon should be better in everything

hey man I was starting to get interest in your recommendation, but when I searched for it here in my country, it seems like they don't sell that certain CPU... is there an alternative choice that you can suggest? I'm very open to suggestions like the one you made especially if it's cheaper (or similarly priced) and performs better.

[callmecars]

for little more $ I would go for corsair 330R

thanks! I found one for sale and it looks awesome!

[callmecars]

Gskill is OK ram, but its kinda overpriced. Judging my the rest of your build though, i can see you're not on a very tight budget. 8 GB should be enough, and if you find that you need more, you can always upgrade to 16.

 

As for HDDs, the colors dont affect it THAT much, but general green drives are made for power saving, blacks are for performance, reds are for servers and 24/7 operation, blues are kinda average (nothing special about blues). There's not too much performance difference between the drives, especially seeing how you'll have an SSD for the boot drive

well I'd say that I'm actually on a tight budget, but if the ends justify the means then I'll find a way to make the money to get this build started. if my choices on any of the components seem to be too much for what I need then please enlighten me, I really am still learning how to walk when it comes to this.

I guess I'll go with the green one then since it's cheaper AND saves more power.

[callmecars]

oh and of course I wouldn't want to bottleneck any of the components so if you guys have thoughts that one of these parts might pull the other down then please enlighten me.

[teddyteddyteddy]

hey man I was starting to get interest in your recommendation, but when I searched for it here in my country, it seems like they don't sell that certain CPU... is there an alternative choice that you can suggest? I'm very open to suggestions like the one you made especially if it's cheaper (or similarly priced) and performs better.

maybe you could find the xeon e3 1230 v3?  it's pretty much the same as the e3 1231v3.    there's also the xeon e3 1240 v3, but it's a little more expensive.   they're all basically locked i7's, but at a cheaper price.   if you can't find any of those,  you could either get something like an i5 4460 (better than the fx cpu's in most games, somewhat similar in video editing)  or the 8370 like you mentioned.   

[callmecars]

maybe you could find the xeon e3 1230 v3?  it's pretty much the same as the e3 1231v3.    there's also the xeon e3 1240 v3, but it's a little more expensive.   they're all basically locked i7's, but at a cheaper price.   if you can't find any of those,  you could either get something like an i5 4460 (better than the fx cpu's in most games, somewhat similar in video editing)  or the 8370 like you mentioned.   

it's really strange, it seems like there isn't any xeon models here in my country, could they be going under a different name at other places?

on your personal experience the intel CPUs perform better than the AMD (based on what you said about the 4460 against most fx CPUs)? I'm just getting a little dubious about it since they are at about the same price range yet cpubenchmark.net said that the grade of the 4460 is only about 2/3rds of the 8370. At least the xeon processors you mentioned were still a competition for the 8370 in terms of grade, but the problem is their availability where I'm from.

[teddyteddyteddy]

it's really strange, it seems like there isn't any xeon models here in my country, could they be going under a different name at other places?

on your personal experience the intel CPUs perform better than the AMD (based on what you said about the 4460 against most fx CPUs)? I'm just getting a little dubious about it since they are at about the same price range yet cpubenchmark.net said that the grade of the 4460 is only about 2/3rds of the 8370. At least the xeon processors you mentioned were still a competition for the 8370 in terms of grade, but the problem is their availability where I'm from.

I don't think xeons would be called anything different.   The only thing I can think of is maybe the reason you can't find them is because they're marketed as server cpu's.   Sometimes websites have filters for "consumer" cpu's and stuff, and there's a chance you wouldn't find them there.   I don't know what site you're using though so who knows

 

the i5 4460 will perform better in most games because it has less but more powerful cores.  Almost all games only take advantage of 4 cores or less.  for these games, the i5 is usually better.   Only a small handful of games will use all 8 of the fx 8370's cores, but even then, it won't beat the i5 by much, if at all.  In rendering and video editing, the 8370 will beat the i5 often, but the i5 does well also and in some cases will be better than the 8370.  if the i5/mobo combo is cheaper, I would definitely go with that.  if the 8370/mobo/probably a cpu cooler  is cheaper where you are, then that would also be a good choice.   they're both good cpu's.   If you asked in the cpu subforum, I think most people would recommend the i5.  you can ask there if you want though

[callmecars]

I don't think xeons would be called anything different.   The only thing I can think of is maybe the reason you can't find them is because they're marketed as server cpu's.   Sometimes websites have filters for "consumer" cpu's and stuff, and there's a chance you wouldn't find them there.   I don't know what site you're using though so who knows

 

the i5 4460 will perform better in most games because it has less but more powerful cores.  Almost all games only take advantage of 4 cores or less.  for these games, the i5 is usually better.   Only a small handful of games will use all 8 of the fx 8370's cores, but even then, it won't beat the i5 by much, if at all.  In rendering and video editing, the 8370 will beat the i5 often, but the i5 does well also and in some cases will be better than the 8370.  if the i5/mobo combo is cheaper, I would definitely go with that.  if the 8370/mobo/probably a cpu cooler  is cheaper where you are, then that would also be a good choice.   they're both good cpu's.   If you asked in the cpu subforum, I think most people would recommend the i5.  you can ask there if you want though

hey thanks for the clarity.

so the only way for a 8370 to keep up with the 4460 is with a CPU cooler? I mean the 4460 wouldn't need an aftermarket CPU cooler to do great in games and such?

[teddyteddyteddy]

hey thanks for the clarity.

so the only way for a 8370 to keep up with the 4460 is with a CPU cooler? I mean the 4460 wouldn't need an aftermarket CPU cooler to do great in games and such?

There isn't really any reason to use an aftermarket cooler on the 4460 because you can't overclock it, and the Intel stock cooler does a decent job. You probably wouldn't need an aftermarket cooler for the 8370,unless you want to overclock it. In that case, you would definitely need one. Using an aftermarket cooler and over clocking the 8370 will help it a little and it will have better temperatures, but there won't be a giant difference, and the i5 will still win in gaming, while the 8370 will often win in rendering.

If you are interested in overclocking, and video editing/ rendering performance is more important to you than gaming performance, you should probably get the 8370.

If you don't really care about overclocking, and gaming performance matters more to you, then you should get the i5. I would personally go with the i5.

If you want more opinions on this, then just ask in the cpu subforum like I said before

[Mistersprinkles]

^Agreed 100%

[callmecars]

There isn't really any reason to use an aftermarket cooler on the 4460 because you can't overclock it, and the Intel stock cooler does a decent job. You probably wouldn't need an aftermarket cooler for the 8370,unless you want to overclock it. In that case, you would definitely need one. Using an aftermarket cooler and over clocking the 8370 will help it a little and it will have better temperatures, but there won't be a giant difference, and the i5 will still win in gaming, while the 8370 will often win in rendering.

If you are interested in overclocking, and video editing/ rendering performance is more important to you than gaming performance, you should probably get the 8370.

If you don't really care about overclocking, and gaming performance matters more to you, then you should get the i5. I would personally go with the i5.

If you want more opinions on this, then just ask in the cpu subforum like I said before

thanks again! I think I got all the info I needed for the CPU!