Need help with upgrading

[Steaks McBeard]

Hey guys!

Been lurking here a while now (these forums have kept me afloat with some great information over the past year) and was hoping you might be able to help me with a few questions I have regarding upgrading my rig?

At the moment I have:

Asus PB278Q (want to upgrade, am stuck between the RoG Swift and the AOC U3477pqu)

EVGA 780Ti HydroCopper (can't decide between upgrading to SLI 780ti's or 980's)

i5 3570k @4.2 (really feel like I need to upgrade this, was at 4.5 but had to keep dropping by .1 over the past few months)

ASRock Z77 eXtreme 9 mobo (will need to upgrade this when I change CPU, was thinking of going with the RoG line)

Corsair Dominator Platinum 1866 x2 4GB modules (Was considering DDR4, if not then going for 2666 corsair dominator and 16gb instead of the 8 I have now)

I was also thinking of selling my entire rig, and starting from scratch, (especially due to wanting to re rig new water cooling with acrylic tubes this time, and switching from the Cooler Master Cosmos 2 case to the Corsair 900D) but I'd lose quite a bit of money in charges and delivery, along with having to drop the price considerably lower than I'd like to sell so it actually sells.

My train of thought at the moment is basically:

1.Sell pc, lose money but start from scratch.

2. Failing that, gut the PC so I can replace the CPU and Mobo, sell the 780Ti and the 8GB 1866 ram and replace with 2x 980 SLI and 2400/2666 ram (possibly go DDR4 depending on CPU)

3. If the 2x980's will make next to no difference compared to 2x 780TI's with the monitors I'm looking at, keep the 780Ti I have and stick another in to SLI and add another 8GB of 1866 dominator (if it doesn't make a difference)

I'm 90% sure I should change CPU though, as games like Dragon Age inquisition are pushing it to between 60-90% (it's just a bit of an annoyance having to pull out the water cooling to switch MoBo's for a new CPU)

If I could get any help with any of these, it would be massively appreciated.

Thanks guys.

(Sorry if it's a bit of a jumble, away from my pc so having to type on mobile)

[Steaks McBeard]

Also, can you recommend the best silent pump for a water loop? I'm using the aquacomputer aqua stream XT ultra at the moment, but it's fairly noisy.

Thanks again.

[vlkn´]

If you can sell your 780 ti for the same price as the 980, go for 2 980´s (saving power, lower temps)

But if you can get second cheap 780ti, maybe you´ll get 10-20fps less as with the 980´s .

I wouldn´t go for the haswell e, expensive. But if you are video/picture editing, go for it NOW, you will experience a huge performance increase.

I am talking about the cheap 8? or 6 core haswell e 12/16threads...

[nhatduy1611]

Hey guys!

Been lurking here a while now (these forums have kept me afloat with some great information over the past year) and was hoping you might be able to help me with a few questions I have regarding upgrading my rig?

At the moment I have:

Asus PB278Q (want to upgrade, am stuck between the RoG Swift and the AOC U3477pqu)

EVGA 780Ti HydroCopper (can't decide between upgrading to SLI 780ti's or 980's)

i5 3570k @4.2 (really feel like I need to upgrade this, was at 4.5 but had to keep dropping by .1 over the past few months)

ASRock Z77 eXtreme 9 mobo (will need to upgrade this when I change CPU, was thinking of going with the RoG line)

Corsair Dominator Platinum 1866 x2 4GB modules (Was considering DDR4, if not then going for 2666 corsair dominator and 16gb instead of the 8 I have now)

I was also thinking of selling my entire rig, and starting from scratch, (especially due to wanting to re rig new water cooling with acrylic tubes this time, and switching from the Cooler Master Cosmos 2 case to the Corsair 900D) but I'd lose quite a bit of money in charges and delivery, along with having to drop the price considerably lower than I'd like to sell so it actually sells.

My train of thought at the moment is basically:

1.Sell pc, lose money but start from scratch.

2. Failing that, gut the PC so I can replace the CPU and Mobo, sell the 780Ti and the 8GB 1866 ram and replace with 2x 980 SLI and 2400/2666 ram (possibly go DDR4 depending on CPU)

3. If the 2x980's will make next to no difference compared to 2x 780TI's with the monitors I'm looking at, keep the 780Ti I have and stick another in to SLI and add another 8GB of 1866 dominator (if it doesn't make a difference)

I'm 90% sure I should change CPU though, as games like Dragon Age inquisition are pushing it to between 60-90% (it's just a bit of an annoyance having to pull out the water cooling to switch MoBo's for a new CPU)

If I could get any help with any of these, it would be massively appreciated.

Thanks guys.

(Sorry if it's a bit of a jumble, away from my pc so having to type on mobile

Your rig is fine at the moment if you want to upgrade i think swapping the 3570k to a i7 4790k then get another 780 ti for sli. Your ram doesn't really need an upgrade if anything get a another set of those to get to 16 gb, ddr4 is not necessary. Why do you need to upgrade your motherboard again ? there is nothing wrong with it.

[nhatduy1611]

Also, can you recommend the best silent pump for a water loop? I'm using the aquacomputer aqua stream XT ultra at the moment, but it's fairly noisy.

Thanks again.

If you want to know about cooling go to the cooling section on the forum the people in there will help you.

[Steaks McBeard]

Thanks for the help.

I think whichever route I go, I'll be paying roughly the same amount (probably lose out on a a little money if I went for the 980's compared to grabbing another 780Ti, but that doesn't matter too much)

From what I've read, the 980's have a slight edge on performance, and I wouldn't complain at the extra GB of VRAM, but I've also read that the 780Ti's are slightly above the 980's in performance. Is that true?

As for changing Mobo, I'll have to because 4790k is a different socket to my 3570k.

[nhatduy1611]

Thanks for the help.

I think whichever route I go, I'll be paying roughly the same amount (probably lose out on a a little money if I went for the 980's compared to grabbing another 780Ti, but that doesn't matter too much)

From what I've read, the 980's have a slight edge on performance, and I wouldn't complain at the extra GB of VRAM, but I've also read that the 780Ti's are slightly above the 980's in performance. Is that true?

As for changing Mobo, I'll have to because 4790k is a different socket to my 3570k.

Getting another 780 ti and ran them in sli will always beat a single 980 unless you are going for a dual 980 but that is not needed. The 780 ti and 980 is neck to neck in term on performance in some game 980 win and some game 780 ti win they are about the same but the 980 have 1 extra gb of vram so that might be better for the future. About your mobo what do you mean ? the 4790k will work will your motherboard with no problem at all 

[Spev]

Also, can you recommend the best silent pump for a water loop? I'm using the aquacomputer aqua stream XT ultra at the moment, but it's fairly noisy.

Thanks again.

The Swiftech MCP655 (not -B version) has a speed controller. I have never used the pump personally but it is highly recommended with a 5 year warranty. When I was planning to water cool that was going to be my choice. Ofc if you do this you will have to do pump/res seperate and not a combo. Anyways even Linus (silence freeeaaak) mentions in a couple of his videos that if you turn the speed down to 1-2 out of 5 it's his definition of "silent", and it Linus' definition of silent isn't good enough nothing is lol. 

 

The high pump speeds are also pretty handy for getting out air bubble or filling your loop after maintenance.

[Steaks McBeard]

Getting another 780 ti and ran them in sli will always beat a single 980 unless you are going for a dual 980 but that is not needed. The 780 ti and 980 is neck to neck in term on performance in some game 980 win and some game 780 ti win they are about the same but the 980 have 1 extra gb of vram so that might be better for the future. About your mobo what do you mean ? the 4790k will work will your motherboard with no problem at all

My single 780Ti already isn't enough for my Asus PB278Q, which is why I'm looking to upgrade to SLI in the first place. Out of both monitors I'm trying to decide between, one which has a refresh rate of 144Hz and res of 1440p, and the other which res is 3440x1440p, I know I'll definitely need to go SLI.

As for CPU, the 4790k is an 1150 socket, so I'd need a z87 Mobo, my current 3570k is an 1155, so my current Mobo is Z77, so if I'm to upgrade my CPU, the new 4790k won't work with my current Z77 Mobo.

The Swiftech MCP655 (not -B version) has a speed controller. I have never used the pump personally but it is highly recommended with a 5 year warranty. When I was planning to water cool that was going to be my choice. Ofc if you do this you will have to do pump/res seperate and not a combo. Anyways even Linus (silence freeeaaak) mentions in a couple of his videos that if you turn the speed down to 1-2 out of 5 it's his definition of "silent", and it Linus' definition of silent isn't good enough nothing is lol. 

 

The high pump speeds are also pretty handy for getting out air bubble or filling your loop after maintenance.

That's great to know, thank you!

I'll check that pump out as it sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.

My current Aquacomputer Aquaflow pump has a speed setting in its software, but even turned right down, it still sounds fairly aggressive.

At the moment I'm trying to puzzle out how I'm going to actually empty my loop, because when I built it, I complecompletely forgot to put a drain in...

[Spev]

My single 780Ti already isn't enough for my Asus PB278Q, which is why I'm looking to upgrade to SLI in the first place. Out of both monitors I'm trying to decide between, one which has a refresh rate of 144Hz and res of 1440p, and the other which res is 3440x1440p, I know I'll definitely need to go SLI.

As for CPU, the 4790k is an 1150 socket, so I'd need a z87 Mobo, my current 3570k is an 1155, so my current Mobo is Z77, so if I'm to upgrade my CPU, the new 4790k won't work with my current Z77 Mobo.

That's great to know, thank you!

I'll check that pump out as it sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.

My current Aquacomputer Aquaflow pump has a speed setting in its software, but even turned right down, it still sounds fairly aggressive.

At the moment I'm trying to puzzle out how I'm going to actually empty my loop, because when I built it, I complecompletely forgot to put a drain in...

 

My single 780Ti already isn't enough for my Asus PB278Q, which is why I'm looking to upgrade to SLI in the first place. Out of both monitors I'm trying to decide between, one which has a refresh rate of 144Hz and res of 1440p, and the other which res is 3440x1440p, I know I'll definitely need to go SLI.

As for CPU, the 4790k is an 1150 socket, so I'd need a z87 Mobo, my current 3570k is an 1155, so my current Mobo is Z77, so if I'm to upgrade my CPU, the new 4790k won't work with my current Z77 Mobo.

That's great to know, thank you!

I'll check that pump out as it sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.

My current Aquacomputer Aquaflow pump has a speed setting in its software, but even turned right down, it still sounds fairly aggressive.

At the moment I'm trying to puzzle out how I'm going to actually empty my loop, because when I built it, I complecompletely forgot to put a drain in...

Yeah figuring out a drain is tricky. If you have a rad near the bottom of the case there is usually a pretty easy way to make it work. But if you only have stuff up top like if it was just a CPU loop it's kinda hard.

 

Just thought I would add to make sure you shop around. I almost went through with my all out water cooling setup, and noticed while shopping around it varies. Some places have it for $70, others for $100+. 

[nhatduy1611]

My single 780Ti already isn't enough for my Asus PB278Q, which is why I'm looking to upgrade to SLI in the first place. Out of both monitors I'm trying to decide between, one which has a refresh rate of 144Hz and res of 1440p, and the other which res is 3440x1440p, I know I'll definitely need to go SLI.

As for CPU, the 4790k is an 1150 socket, so I'd need a z87 Mobo, my current 3570k is an 1155, so my current Mobo is Z77, so if I'm to upgrade my CPU, the new 4790k won't work with my current Z77 Mobo.

That's great to know, thank you!

I'll check that pump out as it sounds exactly like what I'm looking for.

My current Aquacomputer Aquaflow pump has a speed setting in its software, but even turned right down, it still sounds fairly aggressive.

At the moment I'm trying to puzzle out how I'm going to actually empty my loop, because when I built it, I complecompletely forgot to put a drain in...

Yeah i think i mis read something about your mobo it only support up to an i7 3770k but that is also a good option since it save you from having to buy a new mobo. With that monitor you have 2 780 ti is all you need .

[Steaks McBeard]

Yeah figuring out a drain is tricky. If you have a rad near the bottom of the case there is usually a pretty easy way to make it work. But if you only have stuff up top like if it was just a CPU loop it's kinda hard.

 

Just thought I would add to make sure you shop around. I almost went through with my all out water cooling setup, and noticed while shopping around it varies. Some places have it for $70, others for $100+.

Unfortunately, it's a full loop, and a pretty big one too (it complements my Cooler Master Cosmos 2 case, and took about 3 litres of fluid to fill) and while it does have a rad at the bottom... it's between pillars and the pump so almost completely inaccessible.

The only outcome I can see at the moment is flooding my rig. Haha

Thanks for the great advice though, I'll definitely keep it in mind while shopping for a new pump.

Yeah i think i mis read something about your mobo it only support up to an i7 3770k but that is also a good option since it save you from having to buy a new mobo. With that monitor you have 2 780 ti is all you need .

Wouldn't the 4970k give me better performance though? From what I've heard, the 4790k has MUCH better performance per core compared to Ivy.

So would the 780Ti's in SLI get me the performance I need from the 2560x1440p 144Hz RoG Swift, or the 3440x1440p AOC U3477pqu? I would assume the extra GB of VRAM would be needed for the second option, considering I'm already using my entire 3 GB VRAM on a fair few games already at 1440p?

[Spev]

Unfortunately, it's a full loop, and a pretty big one too (it complements my Cooler Master Cosmos 2 case, and took about 3 litres of fluid to fill) and while it does have a rad at the bottom... it's between pillars and the pump so almost completely inaccessible.

The only outcome I can see at the moment is flooding my rig. Haha

Thanks for the great advice though, I'll definitely keep it in mind while shopping for a new pump.

Wouldn't the 4970k give me better performance though? From what I've heard, the 4790k has MUCH better performance per core compared to Ivy.

So would the 780Ti's in SLI get me the performance I need from the 2560x1440p 144Hz RoG Swift, or the 3440x1440p AOC U3477pqu? I would assume the extra GB of VRAM would be needed for the second option, considering I'm already using my entire 3 GB VRAM on a fair few games already at 1440p?

 

Unfortunately, it's a full loop, and a pretty big one too (it complements my Cooler Master Cosmos 2 case, and took about 3 litres of fluid to fill) and while it does have a rad at the bottom... it's between pillars and the pump so almost completely inaccessible.

The only outcome I can see at the moment is flooding my rig. Haha

Thanks for the great advice though, I'll definitely keep it in mind while shopping for a new pump.

Wouldn't the 4970k give me better performance though? From what I've heard, the 4790k has MUCH better performance per core compared to Ivy.

So would the 780Ti's in SLI get me the performance I need from the 2560x1440p 144Hz RoG Swift, or the 3440x1440p AOC U3477pqu? I would assume the extra GB of VRAM would be needed for the second option, considering I'm already using my entire 3 GB VRAM on a fair few games already at 1440p?

Not sure if this will work for you, but this is what I was going to do:

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7BdBPSx92M

 

Skip to 26:00

 

Edit: Sorry about double quotes my mouse is auto double clicking today...

[That Norwegian Guy]

You shouldn't 'upgrade' platform. It will only lead to disappointment. Even if your 3570K won't go past 4.2Ghz (unlucky) you won't notice any difference at all with a newer platform except if you win the silicon lottery, and also only in a certain few games.

 

Just get your GPU situation sorted, that 3570K won't bottleneck anything. Also the Extreme9 has a PEX PLX chip so you can do 3-way SLi/ Xfire if you wanted.

[Steaks McBeard]

Not sure if this will work for you, but this is what I was going to do:

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7BdBPSx92M

 

Skip to 26:00

 

Edit: Sorry about double quotes my mouse is auto double clicking today...

Ah... I definitely see my problem after watching that. Haha

good reference though for when I drain it soon, definitely need to put in a drain/bleed system!

You shouldn't 'upgrade' platform. It will only lead to disappointment. Even if your 3570K won't go past 4.2Ghz (unlucky) you won't notice any difference at all with a newer platform except if you win the silicon lottery, and also only in a certain few games.

 

Just get your GPU situation sorted, that 3570K won't bottleneck anything. Also the Extreme9 has a PEX PLX chip so you can do 3-way SLi/ Xfire if you wanted.

Disappointment meaning seeing no performance gains in games? I ask because I've been playing a lot of Dragon Age inquisition recently and it's been pushing my 3570k right up to 90% on all cores, where as a friend told me his 4790k barely hits 30%.

As for GPU, would you mind giving your opinion on my current situation regarding my monitor upgrade? I'll probably pick the RoG Swift over the AOC 3440x1440p due to the Gsync and 144Hz (Coming from an IPS though, it kinda worries me about going for a TN panel) and at the moment my PB278Q 1440p monitor is pushing my 780Ti to the absolute max on core, memory and voltage on a lot of games, so would I be best either going SLI 780ti's or SLI 980's to accommodate the new 144Hz 1440p panel?

[vlkn´]

chill, wait until most games are optimized for hyperthreading, then buy a i7. (if you render much etc, why not...but only for gaming? nahhhh, not now)

Hardware can only gain more performance and get cheaper with time.

[Steaks McBeard]

chill, wait until most games are optimized for hyperthreading, then buy a i7. (if you render much etc, why not...but only for gaming? nahhhh, not now)

Hardware can only gain more performance and get cheaper with time.

It's not the Hyperthreading I'm looking for, it's the performance per core (which I've heard is much higher in the 4790k compared to the 3570k)

As I said earlier, I've been playing a lot of Dragon Age inquisition and that's been pushing my CPU up to 90% usage on all cores.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Ah... I definitely see my problem after watching that. Haha

good reference though for when I drain it soon, definitely need to put in a drain/bleed system!

Disappointment meaning seeing no performance gains in games? I ask because I've been playing a lot of Dragon Age inquisition recently and it's been pushing my 3570k right up to 90% on all cores, where as a friend told me his 4790k barely hits 30%.

As for GPU, would you mind giving your opinion on my current situation regarding my monitor upgrade? I'll probably pick the RoG Swift over the AOC 3440x1440p due to the Gsync and 144Hz (Coming from an IPS though, it kinda worries me about going for a TN panel) and at the moment my PB278Q 1440p monitor is pushing my 780Ti to the absolute max on core, memory and voltage on a lot of games, so would I be best either going SLI 780ti's or SLI 980's to accommodate the new 144Hz 1440p panel?

 

The 4790K is hyperthreaded, I'm guessing Dragon Age Inq. is an anomaly in game design that actually makes use of Hyperthreading, either that or it makes use of PhysX or Tesselation without offloading it to the GPU. (Tesselation in particular is very hyperthreading friendly task as it's highly repetitive/ predictable, which is exactly the type of task Hyperthreading exists for, however almost nothing else in gaming is repetitive or predictable calculations)

 

The Haswell architecture is in terms of IPC not a real improvement over Ivy Bridge, as most Ivy Bridge CPUs (again, not in your case as you lost the silicon lottery) overclock better, rendering the IPC improvement moot.

 

I also strongly dislike the Haswell feature set, and how nearly every motherboard is riddled with useless SATA express, overengineered onboard audio and M.2

 

What I would do is simply buy a used 3570K or 3770K off of eBay, hope you get a better overclocking chip, then sell the old one for the same amount.

 

My personal G-sync pick at the moment is the Acer XB280HK, it's very versatile, being native 2160p @60hz. But I typically gravitate towards equal amounts of image quality and low input lag rather than refresh rate.

[vlkn´]

It's not the Hyperthreading I'm looking for, it's the performance per core (which I've heard is much higher in the 4790k compared to the 3570k)

As I said earlier, I've been playing a lot of Dragon Age inquisition and that's been pushing my CPU up to 90% usage on all cores.

the performance per clock on the i7 is not really higher than your old cpu... maybe you´ll get 84% instead of 90% usage (hyperthreading disabled)

The only huge difference is hyperthreading.

[Steaks McBeard]

the performance per clock on the i7 is not really higher than your old cpu... maybe you´ll get 84% instead of 90% usage (hyperthreading disabled)

The only huge difference is hyperthreading.

I was speaking with a friend recently who has the 4790k, and he told me his was barely even touching 30%, although after the replies I've got from you guys I'm starting to think that may have been an over exaggeration.

In that case, I'll stick with the 3570k (probably just replace it with a new 3570k and hope I win the silicon lottery this time.

Thanks for the help regarding that.

The 4790K is hyperthreaded, I'm guessing Dragon Age Inq. is an anomaly in game design that actually makes use of Hyperthreading, either that or it makes use of PhysX or Tesselation without offloading it to the GPU. (Tesselation in particular is very hyperthreading friendly task as it's highly repetitive/ predictable, which is exactly the type of task Hyperthreading exists for, however almost nothing else in gaming is repetitive or predictable calculations)

 

The Haswell architecture is in terms of IPC not a real improvement over Ivy Bridge, as most Ivy Bridge CPUs (again, not in your case as you lost the silicon lottery) overclock better, rendering the IPC improvement moot.

 

I also strongly dislike the Haswell feature set, and how nearly every motherboard is riddled with useless SATA express, overengineered onboard audio and M.2

 

What I would do is simply buy a used 3570K or 3770K off of eBay, hope you get a better overclocking chip, then sell the old one for the same amount.

 

My personal G-sync pick at the moment is the Acer XB280HK, it's very versatile, being native 2160p @60hz. But I typically gravitate towards equal amounts of image quality and low input lag rather than refresh rate.

Thanks for the informative reply, it's really helped me with my choice regarding CPU/Mobo (and saved me a hell of a lot of hassle gutting my entire PC)

As for Gsync, would you say it's worth having a monitor with it? As I'm only seeing it attached to TN panels at the moment and for the past 2 years I've had an IPS so would love to stay with better image quality, but I feel like it's been at the expense of smoothness (which I'm told +60Hz absolutely trumps standard 60Hz panels for any kind of gaming)

I love the idea of Gsync, and from what I understand, it basically negates the need of SLI due to syncing the FPS for smooth game play even all the way down to 25 fps. Is that correct?

Thank you for all your help so far.

[vlkn´]

Yeah gsync is like adaptive vsync in the nvidia control center, but better.

I would only change my old ips for gsync if they are offering it for free.

Can´t think of something else than ips, especially watching movies and playing games with the color accuracy.

Imagine you want to watch a movie from your bed and the whole screen is black because of the bad viewing angle ~,~

[That Norwegian Guy]

I was speaking with a friend recently who has the 4790k, and he told me his was barely even touching 30%, although after the replies I've got from you guys I'm starting to think that may have been an over exaggeration.

In that case, I'll stick with the 3570k (probably just replace it with a new 3570k and hope I win the silicon lottery this time.

Thanks for the help regarding that.

Thanks for the informative reply, it's really helped me with my choice regarding CPU/Mobo (and saved me a hell of a lot of hassle gutting my entire PC)

As for Gsync, would you say it's worth having a monitor with it? As I'm only seeing it attached to TN panels at the moment and for the past 2 years I've had an IPS so would love to stay with better image quality, but I feel like it's been at the expense of smoothness (which I'm told +60Hz absolutely trumps standard 60Hz panels for any kind of gaming)

I love the idea of Gsync, and from what I understand, it basically negates the need of SLI due to syncing the FPS for smooth game play even all the way down to 25 fps. Is that correct?

Thank you for all your help so far.

 

For anyone who game a lot on their PC and have Nvidia anyway, I do recommend G-sync, even if it can seem very expensive for an 'esoteric' upgrade (it will seem esoteric only until you actually get it though!)

 

I definitely recommend trying to find a local sale point or G-sync owner to show off G-sync to you, it's probably not easy but once you see it in action it will probably win you over, unless the TN panel is bad. (both the ROG Swift and Acer XB280HK have surprisingly good TN panels that could probably fool some untrained eyes into thinking they may be IPS.

 

Those are the only two G-sync offerings I've seen in person though. Hard to evaluate any others. I preferred the Acer just because once you have G-sync, it being 4K resolution is not that negative for performance anymore, and if it is unplayable on some games you can always dial back to 1080p or 1440p and overclock the panel instead (should you so wish)

[vlkn´]

I agree, you need to see it working in front of you to judge if its worth it

[Steaks McBeard]

For anyone who game a lot on their PC and have Nvidia anyway, I do recommend G-sync, even if it can seem very expensive for an 'esoteric' upgrade (it will seem esoteric only until you actually get it though!)

 

I definitely recommend trying to find a local sale point or G-sync owner to show off G-sync to you, it's probably not easy but once you see it in action it will probably win you over, unless the TN panel is bad. (both the ROG Swift and Acer XB280HK have surprisingly good TN panels that could probably fool some untrained eyes into thinking they may be IPS.

 

Those are the only two G-sync offerings I've seen in person though. Hard to evaluate any others. I preferred the Acer just because once you have G-sync, it being 4K resolution is not that negative for performance anymore, and if it is unplayable on some games you can always dial back to 1080p or 1440p and overclock the panel instead (should you so wish)

Would you recommend getting a second 780Ti or going for 2 980's for either of those monitors?

Also, does your monitor max out your VRAM usage at 4K? I ask because I've noticed quite a few games max out my 3 GB VRAM at 1440p, and wonder if that would limit me if I went for the Acer.

[nhatduy1611]

Unfortunately, it's a full loop, and a pretty big one too (it complements my Cooler Master Cosmos 2 case, and took about 3 litres of fluid to fill) and while it does have a rad at the bottom... it's between pillars and the pump so almost completely inaccessible.

The only outcome I can see at the moment is flooding my rig. Haha

Thanks for the great advice though, I'll definitely keep it in mind while shopping for a new pump.

Wouldn't the 4970k give me better performance though? From what I've heard, the 4790k has MUCH better performance per core compared to Ivy.

So would the 780Ti's in SLI get me the performance I need from the 2560x1440p 144Hz RoG Swift, or the 3440x1440p AOC U3477pqu? I would assume the extra GB of VRAM would be needed for the second option, considering I'm already using my entire 3 GB VRAM on a fair few games already at 1440p?

It all come down to how much money you can spend if you have the money i would say upgrade your mobo and get a 4790k sell your 780 ti to get 2 980 for sli with this set up 4k gaming isn't an issues at all. If you want a less expensive option go for 3770k + another 780 ti