How does this build seem?

[Crimson Dog]

• Fractal Core 1000

• XFX Core Series 450W

• Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 - Socket 1150, mATX

• Intel i5 4440 - 4 cores @3.1GHz

• Corsair 2x4GB RAM @1333 MHz (can get 1866MHz Kingstons for 20$ more)

• XFX AMD Radeon R7 265A - 2GB GDDR5

• Seagate Baracuda 1TB

• Philips 223V5LSB2/10 - cheapest 22" 1080p monitor with a DVI

 

Total is around 950$ - keep in mind, i'm from Croatia, so the prices are higher.

 

Link to image: http://puu.sh/cThoA/d8715068ab.png

Site used - pools prices from a plethora of hardware stores: http://www.nabava.net

 

Any alterations you'd propose?

[Laputacake]

Get the 4460 if you can, Better case, Not bad apart from that bad

[Maheshvara]

 

• Fractal Core 1000

• XFX Core Series 450W

• Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 - Socket 1150, mATX

• Intel i5 4440 - 4 cores @3.1GHz

• Corsair 2x4GB RAM @1333 MHz (can get 1866MHz Kingstons for 20$ more)

• XFX AMD Radeon R7 265A - 2GB GDDR5

• Seagate Baracuda 1TB

• Philips 223V5LSB2/10 - cheapest 22" 1080p monitor with a DVI

 

Total is around 950$ - keep in mind, i'm from Croatia, so the prices are higher.

 

Link to image: http://puu.sh/cThoA/d8715068ab.png

Site used - pools prices from a plethora of hardware stores: http://www.nabava.net

 

Any alterations you'd propose?

 

Remember to follow your topics and quote members whose help you want

 

What about futura-it.hr I got it from another Croatian as a good site for PC parts

 

Btw, i can understand Croatian,so feel free to speak in any language you want

[Crimson Dog]

Get the 4460 if you can, Better case, Not bad apart from that bad

4460 has some black magic with the motherboard, so i'm not sure if the h97m can handle it. Some deal with refreshes or something. Other than that, they're basically the same price, the 4440 and the 4460.

 

What's wrong with the case? It has everything i need, looks good, and it's cheapo. Like half the price of the Fractal Core 1100.

[Crimson Dog]

Remember to follow your topics and quote members whose help you want

 

What about futura-it.hr I got it from another Croatian as a good site for PC parts

 

Btw, i can understand Croatian,so feel free to speak in any language you want

I made a new thread because the last one i made started as a CPU discussion then to build suggestions then PSU discussion, etc. It just veered offtopic.

 

And i'll keep it in english just for the sake of everyone else here.

 

never tried futura-it.hr, i'll check it out.

[Crimson Dog]

As far as I can tell, nabava.net pulls data from futura-it.hr too.

 

On another note, is it worth it to buy GPUs used?

[Maheshvara]

I made a new thread because the last one i made started as a CPU discussion then to build suggestions then PSU discussion, etc. It just veered offtopic.

 

And i'll keep it in english just for the sake of everyone else here.

 

never tried futura-it.hr, i'll check it out.

I suggest going with an AMD CPU

 

Something like 860k with a 280(x)

 

Gonna go try nabava.net to make you something good

 

As far as I can tell, nabava.net pulls data from futura-it.hr too.

 

On another note, is it worth it to buy GPUs used?

Never bought it used, but if they have the original warranty, then why not You're still covered

[Rangelov]

I h ave a question: What is this PC used for ? All in all the build is good I just want to ask if you are playing games with it or using it for daily tasks? If you are going to game on it get a better GPU. Use the same Motherboard but get a pentium g3258 with a GTX 760 or r9 270/x. If they can fit in you budget. 

[Crimson Dog]

I suggest going with an AMD CPU

 

Something like 860k with a 280(x)

 

Gonna go try nabava.net to make you something good

 

Never bought it used, but if they have the original warranty, then why not You're still covered

I've heard a LOT of mixed feelings on AMD chips so i'm on the fence here.

 

 

280x is way too much, i feel. the price will skyrocket.

 

Although, there are used ones

http://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/sapphire-r9-280x-dual-x-oglas-13216974

warranty till 11/2015

 

http://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/sapphire-radeon-hd-7850-dual-x-2gb-oglas-9540738

supposedly bought a few months ago

 

http://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/xfx-radeon-r9-280x-oglas-13409073

bought 3 months ago

 

All are the same price as the new 265A

[Crimson Dog]

I h ave a question: What is this PC used for ? All in all the build is good I just want to ask if you are playing games with it or using it for daily tasks? If you are going to game on it get a better GPU. Use the same Motherboard but get a pentium g3258 with a GTX 760 or r9 270/x. If they can fit in you budget. 

the g3258 is like half the price of the i5-4440. Is it really good or is it worse but you're substituting the cost for a better GPU?

[Crimson Dog]

I h ave a question: What is this PC used for ? 

The edit button is bust so i'll do it like this.

 

It'll be a general use PC, but the heaviest load will definitely be gaming. I don't think programming can classify as a heavy load, neither can light photoshop/sony vegas work i occasionally do.

[Rangelov]

the g3258 is like half the price of the i5-4440. Is it really good or is it worse but you're substituting the cost for a better GPU?

If he will use the PC for gaming. The difference will be minimal between the two CPUs. 

[Rangelov]

The edit button is bust so i'll do it like this.

 

It'll be a general use PC, but the heaviest load will definitely be gaming. I don't think programming can classify as a heavy load, neither can light photoshop/sony vegas work i occasionally do.

Then go wit the i5 and if you want you can add a better gpu down the road

[Crimson Dog]

If he will use the PC for gaming. The difference will be minimal between the two CPUs. 

So what are the drawbacks? What does the Pentium suck at compared to the i5?

[Maheshvara]

I've heard a LOT of mixed feelings on AMD chips so i'm on the fence here.

 

 

280x is way too much, i feel. the price will skyrocket.

 

Although, there are used ones

http://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/sapphire-r9-280x-dual-x-oglas-13216974

warranty till 11/2015

 

http://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/sapphire-radeon-hd-7850-dual-x-2gb-oglas-9540738

supposedly bought a few months ago

 

http://www.njuskalo.hr/graficke-kartice/xfx-radeon-r9-280x-oglas-13409073

bought 3 months ago

 

All are the same price as the new 265A

They're good budget alternatives I made this

 

http://prntscr.com/5708md

 

What do you think

[Crimson Dog]

They're good budget alternatives I made this

 

http://prntscr.com/5708md

 

What do you think

can the X4-860k compare to the i5 4440?

 

I remembered another CPU specific load i use sometimes: SVP with MPC-HC - it taxes the CPU quite a bit.

[Rangelov]

So what are the drawbacks? What does the Pentium suck at compared to the i5?

Well in benchmarks probably but in day to day use it will have not that much of a difference, the pentium will suck if you are multitasking a lot.

[Crimson Dog]

Well in benchmarks probably but in day to day use it will have not that much of a difference, the pentium will suck if you are multitasking a lot.

Well, what do you mean by multitasking: I tend to watch a youtube vid on the sidemonitor while playing some games that i don't need to pay much attention to, audio-wise, like Minecraft, LoL, et cetera, and do need to have several things open while coding.

 

I don't do any serious multitasking like rendering a vid while calculating PI, while playing farcry3 all while doing pushups, or something ridiculous like that. Just day-to-day multitasking anyone would do with 2 monitors (I have one already)

[Rangelov]

Well, what do you mean by multitasking: I tend to watch a youtube vid on the sidemonitor while playing some games that i don't need to pay much attention to, audio-wise, like Minecraft, LoL, et cetera, and do need to have several things open while coding.

 

I don't do any serious multitasking like rendering a vid while calculating PI, while playing farcry3 all while doing pushups, or something ridiculous like that. Just day-to-day multitasking anyone would do with 2 monitors (I have one already)

Even if you have a browser or some type of other demanding program running you will notice lower performance while gaming. If you are running just the game and not really doing anything else in the background than there will be no difference between the i5 an pentium. But since you have a second monitor (as do I) you probably multitask (Probably running a browser while gaming or as you said programming). So the i5 will be a better choice.

[Crimson Dog]

Even if you have a browser or some type of other demanding program running you will notice lower performance while gaming. If you are running just the game and not really doing anything else in the background than there will be no difference between the i5 an pentium. But since you have a second monitor (as do I) you probably multitask (Probably running a browser while gaming or as you said programming). So the i5 will be a better choice.

what about the x4-860k mentioned above?

[Rangelov]

what about the x4-860k mentioned above?

It is a great value for the money. But I would go intel nowadays AMD has not done much to refresh there CPUs and the architecture of those chips is old (2 years old). 

[Crimson Dog]

It is a great value for the money. But I would go intel nowadays AMD has not done much to refresh there CPUs and the architecture of those chips is old (2 years old). 

Still, it's less than half the price of the intel chip, so i'm kinda torn.

 

I can get the i5-4440 with a used 280x, but is it worth buying used goods at all, when it comes to GPUs?

[Crimson Dog]

Wait, isn't the x4 860k based on the Steamroller architecture released early this year, rather than the Piledriver from 2012?

[Rangelov]

Still, it's less than half the price of the intel chip, so i'm kinda torn.

 

I can get the i5-4440 with a used 280x, but is it worth buying used goods at all, when it comes to GPUs?

It is, if the part is in warranty.

[Crimson Dog]

It is, if the part is in warranty.

Then again, i can get a GTX 770 or even a R9-290 with the X4-860k if i buy a used GPU.

 

Also, take a gander at that above question, please.