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Wauthar
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Hi there!

I'm planning to build a NAS and it's almost ready to get ordered. I got if from a Dutch tech forum post from last year, but had to change some of the components due to availability. Are there any points I could improve on?

 

Processor: Intel Celeron G1610 Boxed

Motherboard: ASRock B75 Pro3-M

Storage: 2x WD Red SATA 6 Gb/s WD30EFRX, 3TB

Case: Fractal Design Define Mini

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport BLS2CP8G3D1609DS1S0

PSU: Seasonic G-Serie 360Watt

SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 60GB

 

Total price: €565.83

 

Thanks in advance, 

Wauthar.

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Looks good. What software are you running?

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Looks good. What software are you running?

 

Was planning to use FreeNAS with ZFS (I'll have to look into that though :P)

 

just wondering, why not just buy a Synology?

Upgradability, modularity and the fun of building it myself. We (my dad and I) were considering an all in one, but I'd think building an own machine would be better. 

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You would definitely want ECC RAM if you decide to go with ZFS. Other Linux software RAID solutions include mdadm and Btrfs.

 

http://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/ecc-vs-non-ecc-ram-and-zfs.15449/

I've read some things about ECC vs non-ECC, some say it's fine, some say it isn't. It's how much risk you want to take.

I thought it would be fine, but I'll look into those other solutions, thanks :)

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I've read some things about ECC vs non-ECC, some say it's fine, some say it isn't. It's how much risk you want to take.

I thought it would be fine, but I'll look into those other solutions, thanks :)

It isn't necessary. The risk of data loss from a memory error is relatively small, but it is there. You're more likely to suffer a drive failure.

 

The Celeron can support ECC memory, so that is an option. What will you be storing on this machine? Will it be primarily for backups, or will you be running programs off of the system (iSCSI targets).

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It isn't necessary. The risk of data loss from a memory error is relatively small, but it is there. You're more likely to suffer a drive failure.

 

The Celeron can support ECC memory, so that is an option. What will you be storing on this machine? Will it be primarily for backups, or will you be running programs off of the system (iSCSI targets).

It will be used as our family mass storage device. Our old 500GB NAS is on it's way out and it has all our family pictures on it. That, and maybe it'll be used for movies/music etc.

If I were to buy ECC memory, I'd have to switch out the motherboard to one that supports ECC, isn't it?

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It will be used as our family mass storage device. Our old 500GB NAS is on it's way out and it has all our family pictures on it. That, and maybe it'll be used for movies/music etc.

If I were to buy ECC memory, I'd have to switch out the motherboard to one that supports ECC, isn't it?

Yes, you would.

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So, it would be feasible without ECC RAM?

It would be. I can't recommend it because it is inherently unsafe, but neither are hard drives or SSDs.

 

I would recommend FreeNAS with a proper ECC memory configuration. Do you have to have FreeNAS? You could build a good Ubuntu server that could do the same things, and it'd be a lot less finicky, trust me.

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Looks good. I'd recommend a UPS just in case. I was using a USB thumb drive for my freenas server, and after a couple of blackouts the USB drive just died. You have an SSD so you should be fine, but you never know.

So are you building a raid-1 with just the 2 drives?

Main rig: i7 3770K @ 4.54, Sapphire R9 290, Sabertooth Z77, 16 GB Mushkin Redline 2133, Lian Li PC-P50R, Seasonic 860xp Platinum, Kingston Hyper X 3K 240GB

freeNAS server: AMD Athlon II 170u 20W, 5 x 3TB WD Red in raid-z1 (12 TB)

media centre: AMD A10-5700, crucial M4 (boot), running XBMC,4 x 3TB WD Red, 3 x 3TB WD green + 2TB green in FlexRAID (17 TB)

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@Name Taken @wpirobotbuilder

I have taken the ECC question in consideration and made some changes to the build. It's more expensive now, but that's what I had expected.

Processor: Intel Pentium G2020

Motherboard: Supermicro X9SCM-F

Storage: 2x WD Red 3TB

Case: Fractal Design Define Mini

Boot drive: Sandisk Cruze Blade 8GB

RAM: 1x Crucial 8GB ECC (not sure if that'll be enough)

PSU: Seasonic G-Serie 360Watt

 

I've done some research on the FreeNAS forums, and people say that the bare minimum for RAM is 8GB, but 16GB is optimal. If it's really necessary, I will have to throw in another ;)

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@Name Taken @wpirobotbuilder

I have taken the ECC question in consideration and made some changes to the build. It's more expensive now, but that's what I had expected.

Processor: Intel Pentium G2020

Motherboard: Supermicro X9SCM-F

Storage: 2x WD Red 3TB

Case: Fractal Design Define Mini

Boot drive: Sandisk Cruze Blade 8GB

RAM: 1x Crucial 8GB ECC (not sure if that'll be enough)

PSU: Seasonic G-Serie 360Watt

 

I've done some research on the FreeNAS forums, and people say that the bare minimum for RAM is 8GB, but 16GB is optimal. If it's really necessary, I will have to throw in another ;)

Yes, less memory puts you at less risk of instability. Make sure the memory is validated in the board (this is REALLY important). There should be a hardware compatibility list (HCL) on both the Supermicro site and Crucial's site.

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Yes, less memory puts you at less risk of instability. Make sure the memory is validated in the board (this is REALLY important). There should be a hardware compatibility list (HCL) on both the Supermicro site and Crucial's site.

I have checked it and Crucial says it's compatible. Also, in one of the threads at the FreeNAS forums, this particular stick/kit is compatible with the X10 series of Supermicro.

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I have checked it and Crucial says it's compatible. Also, in one of the threads at the FreeNAS forums, this particular stick/kit is compatible with the X10 series of Supermicro.

Perfect! Now you just need to pull the trigger.

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