First PC build control

[-Veteran007-]

Hi, I want to buy a new PC this summer, because the laptop isn't cutting it. So I decided to build a new PC myself and used pcpartpicker.com to plan the build. My budget is 900€, this is for all the parts (PC itself, monitor, OS).

I mainly want to play games (Civ V, Arma 3, Payday 2), hopefully on med/high and 30+fps. And as much of "future proofing", either with a PSU that has enough W, good motherboard that will last after many CPUs/GPUs, so I wouldn't have to upgrade it so much, because I am a student and don't have a lot of money to spend on my PC every time.

This is the build I put together http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6xrVmG I used US stores, because as I live in Estonia, any other country wouldn't of made sense and in my country the total of these parts was 902€, so just above my budget. Also, the shop I use to buy them in Estonia is arvutitark.ee

The i5 4460 is cheaper here, but it said I might have to upgrade a BIOS or something, all parts are just about the cheapest of all other counter parts, so I hope it is still a solid build.

Is it ok or should I change anything? Or can I save some more money?

 

UPDATE: Current build is:

CPU: i5-4460 159,9€

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H 75,52€

RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) 64,9€

SSD: Adata Premier Pro SP900 64GB 47,76€

HDD: Seagate 1TB 51,5€

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 760 Windforce X2 212,12€

Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-01 43,08€

PSU: Corsair CX500 51,78€

OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 64bit 87€

Monitor: BenQ GL2250M 96,61€

 

End sum: 890€

[-Veteran007-]

Pretty solid list although the case will look a bit empty, consider a smaller case since you have micro-ATX board...

Also, PSU could be cheaper, 600W is kinda overkill.

Oh and there's this site selling Win. 8 keys for like $25, you should look into that.

The case is because I want it to last, because I really wanted a ATX motherboard, but they are a lot more expensive than m-ATX.

PSU is 600W because when I upgrade, the GPU or CPU, it would have head room, the thing is, I don't know, how much the future GPUs and CPUs will consume.

Is this legit copy of it? Because it sounds too good to be true.

[Held657]

Looks good. I would get a Samsung 840 EVO instead of the ADATA SSD. And you should probably throw in a CPU-Cooler.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr910htx3g1 This one will do just fine.

[-Veteran007-]

Here's the link, I haven't tried it myself but some people on here did, I think:

https://www.g2a.com/windows-8-professional-32-64-bit-cd-key-global.html

I don't know, seems kinda iffy, part of the text is in russian, I'll better buy it from somewhere else.

 

Looks good. I would get a Samsung 840 EVO instead of the ADATA SSD. And you should probably throw in a CPU-Cooler.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr910htx3g1 This one will do just fine.

Is the 840 EVO so much better? 10€ more over budget is something that I don't want to do much, but if the performance is so much better, then maybe yes.

Does the CPU really need a cooler? The stock should be just fine.

[Held657]

I don't know, seems kinda iffy, part of the text is in russian, I'll better buy it from somewhere else.

 

Is the 840 EVO so much better? 10€ more over budget is something that I don't want to do much, but if the performance is so much better, then maybe yes.

Does the CPU really need a cooler? The stock should be just fine.

 

The 840 EVO is no necessarity, you will be fine with the ADATA then. But I would really get a CPU-Cooler when using an i5, the stock cooler is just way to bad. Especially if you are only using the one included fan in the case. That are 20 damn good invested euros!

[-Veteran007-]

The 840 EVO is no necessarity, you will be fine with the ADATA then. But I would really get a CPU-Cooler when using an i5, the stock cooler is just way to bad. Especially if you are only using the one included fan in the case. That are 20 damn good invested euros!

Ok, but is the aftermarket cooler better, with only one fan included?

[Held657]

Ok, but is the aftermarket cooler better, with only one fan included?

 

Most CPU-Coolers only have one fan. But the performace will still be much better with the aftermarket cooler because the fan is bettter, it got heatpipes and the surface is bigger. Normally with such a build you should have at least two case fans (1 front, 1 back) AND an aftermarket cooler. You can cut out one of the case fans, but especially then the aftermarket cpu cooler is a must.

[-Veteran007-]

Most CPU-Coolers only have one fan. But the performace will still be much better with the aftermarket cooler because the fan is bettter, it got heatpipes and the surface is bigger. Normally with such a build you should have at least two case fans (1 front, 1 back) AND an aftermarket cooler. You can cut out one of the case fans, but especially then the aftermarket cpu cooler is a must.

What about putting more fans in the case? Then all parts will be cooler. Will be cheaper also.

[Held657]

What about putting more fans in the case? Then all parts will be cooler. Will be cheaper also.

 

The CPU cooler is much more important. Dude you are about to buy a PC for 955 bucks, are these 20$ really that much of a problem?

[-Veteran007-]

The CPU cooler is much more important. Dude you are about to buy a PC for 955 bucks, are these 20$ really that much of a problem?

Well, I am a student, yes, everything is expensive for me. And I just want to be sure before I buy, because I want it to last for a long time.

[Held657]

Well, I am a student, yes, everything is expensive for me. And I just want to be sure before I buy, because I want it to last for a long time.

 

If you want it to last long it is defenetly worth the extra 20 bucks, trust me. Without an aftermarket cooler your CPU will get really hot, what reduces the lifetime dramatically. I'd really recommend getting something like the coolermaster TX3. And anything cheaper won't do the job I'm afraid, although the TX3 is a cheap cooler already.

[-Veteran007-]

If you want it to last long it is defenetly worth the extra 20 bucks, trust me. Without an aftermarket cooler your CPU will get really hot, what reduces the lifetime dramatically. I'd really recommend getting something like the coolermaster TX3. And anything cheaper won't do the job I'm afraid, although the TX3 is a cheap cooler already.

Ok, I will do that, but what do you think the performance of the PC will be? Will it be med/high 60fps?

[ryujians]

I don't know, seems kinda iffy, part of the text is in russian, I'll better buy it from somewhere else.

 

Is the 840 EVO so much better? 10€ more over budget is something that I don't want to do much, but if the performance is so much better, then maybe yes.

Does the CPU really need a cooler? The stock should be just fine.

I have gotten games off of g2a before its completely legit a lot of twitch streamers are sponsored by them.

[Held657]

Ok, I will do that, but what do you think the performance of the PC will be? Will it be med/high 60fps?

 

Med/High @ 1080p 60 fps will be no problem on every current game. Mostly high should be possible, but sometimes with low/no anti alaising. But imo AA is overrated, higher details are more important.

[-Veteran007-]

I have gotten games off of g2a before its completely legit a lot of twitch streamers are sponsored by them.

Yeah, I am currently reading all the comments in the forum thread, that discusses the deal on the g2a for windows 8. Some say that they have problems, others don't. One brought out the reasons why they can sell so cheap (one was illegal route). I might consider it, but it makes me nervous, because if it doesn't work, one even had to wait a month to get refund and I wouldn't really want to lose money.

 

Med/High @ 1080p 60 fps will be no problem on every current game.

Ok, that is really good, that was what I hoped it to achieve.

[Held657]

The i5 4460 is cheaper here, but it said I might have to upgrade a BIOS or something, all parts are just about the cheapest of all other counter parts, so I hope it is still a solid build.

Is it ok or should I change anything? Or can I save some more money?

 

The i5 4460 is one of the Haswell Refresh CPUs launched Q2 2014. It should run without problems on the motherboard you chose, but you might have to update (not upgrade) your BIOS. The motherboard is btw the only thing I'm concerned after all, because it's the cheapest motherboard one can get and is not made for gaming at all. That is a motherboard for a cheap office PC with an Intel Pentium. It should work and it should work properly, but I really can't tell because nobody does this normally. It's defenetly not fitting your long lifetime plan. It could work 5 years, but it could also work for just a year. The components are just not made for an i5 4460.

The i5 4460 itself is a good choice just as the GTX 760 is. With a CPU-Cooler all of your chosen components are a good match, only the motherboard doesn't fit.

I would really recommend buying at least the Gigabyte H81-D3 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/Gigabyte-H81-D3-Intel-H81-Socket-1150-ATX-GA-H81-D3-69978). Normally I wouldn't even recommend that for a i5 + GTX 760 build, but I understand you don't want to spend too much money on this. But with the Gigabyte board I can at least say it will work properly and over a long time. I would rather cut out the SSD and get that motherboard.

[Held657]

So you said everything you chose would cost 902€ on your site. I made a list on this site ending up with 830€. If you can afford this I would recommend this:

 

Intel Core i5 4460 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Protsessorid-CPU-LGA-1150-protsessorid/106047

MSI H87M-G43 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/21443

ADATA Premier Pro SP 900 128GB http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/21443

Seagate Barracuda 1TB http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/21443

Gigabyte GTX 760 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Graafikakaardid-VGA-Nvidia-GeForce-GeForce-700-Series/103539

Crucial 2x4GB DDR3 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Malud-lauaarvutile-DDR3-malud-lauaarvutile/40140

Corsair Graphite SPEC03 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Korpused-ATX-korpused/99305

Corsair CX 500 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Toiteplokid-PSU-PSU-500W-550W/37864

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Jahutid-Protsessori-jahutid/35194

Windows 8.1 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Jahutid-Protsessori-jahutid/35194

 

And before you mention it: The 500W PSU is powerfull enough there will be no problems.

[-Veteran007-]

So you said everything you chose would cost 902€ on your site. I made a list on this site ending up with 830€. If you can afford this I would recommend this:

 

Intel Core i5 4460 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Protsessorid-CPU-LGA-1150-protsessorid/106047

MSI H87M-G43 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/21443

ADATA Premier Pro SP 900 128GB http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/21443

Seagate Barracuda 1TB http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/21443

Gigabyte GTX 760 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Graafikakaardid-VGA-Nvidia-GeForce-GeForce-700-Series/103539

Crucial 2x4GB DDR3 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Malud-lauaarvutile-DDR3-malud-lauaarvutile/40140

Corsair Graphite SPEC03 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Korpused-ATX-korpused/99305

Corsair CX 500 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Toiteplokid-PSU-PSU-500W-550W/37864

Cooler Master Hyper TX3 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Jahutid-Protsessori-jahutid/35194

Windows 8.1 http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Jahutid-Protsessori-jahutid/35194

 

And before you mention it: The 500W PSU is powerfull enough there will be no problems.

You have messed up the links, the SSD and HDD links are for motherboard that you chose and the windows 8.1 link is for CPU cooler.

Ok, I will change the PSU to this one then.

The only major thing you changed was the motherboard, what are the most important advantages of this motherboard?

And you forgot, that I have to fit a monitor in the budget too. So if I add the monitor I had in my mind to this build, the price will be 920€

[Held657]

You have messed up the links, the SSD and HDD links are for motherboard that you chose and the windows 8.1 link is for CPU cooler.

Ok, I will change the PSU to this one then.

The only major thing you changed was the motherboard, what are the most important advantages of this motherboard?

And you forgot, that I have to fit a monitor in the budget too. So if I add the monitor I had in my mind to this build, the price will be 920€

Ah I see. Sry for messing up the links. I changed the mainboard, PSU and GPU.

 

The advantage of this mainboard in the first way is that it will survive. Like I said the mainboard you chose isn't made for gaming in any way, especially not for gaming with an i5. The mainboard is a part of the PC that should not be underrated. And if you buy all this stuff and 6 months later the mainboard breakes you will be really upset of course. And the chance that when the motherboard breakes it breakes the CPU, GPU is also there. And if it don't breakes you could simply run into serious stability issues (bluescreens over and over again). The other advantages of the MSI H87M-G43 board are 4 RAM slots (max 32GB), 2 PCIe x16 and 2 PCIe x1 slots, a better sound chip that includes 7.1 jacks and 6 SATA 3 ports. But that's all not so important. The important advantages are the better chipset (H87), far better quality and better cooling. All that increases lifetime. And this mainboard is made to handle an i5.

 

I changed the PSU to the same model, only the 500W version because it's cheaper and will be enough.

 

At last I changed the GPU to a Gigabyte GTX 760 OC, again because it's cheaper and the performance will be the same.

 

So I summed up my recommendations on pcpartpicker: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f92VmG

I completly igonored the pcpartpicker prices and went straight to the best chioces for your website. So this is what I would buy.

[-Veteran007-]

Ah I see. Sry for messing up the links. I changed the mainboard, PSU and GPU.

 

The advantage of this mainboard in the first way is that it will survive. Like I said the mainboard you chose isn't made for gaming in any way, especially not for gaming with an i5. The mainboard is a part of the PC that should not be underrated. And if you buy all this stuff and 6 months later the mainboard breakes you will be really upset of course. And the chance that when the motherboard breakes it breakes the CPU, GPU is also there. And if it don't breakes you could simply run into serious stability issues (bluescreens over and over again). The other advantages of the MSI H87M-G43 board are 4 RAM slots (max 32GB), 2 PCIe x16 and 2 PCIe x1 slots, a better sound chip that includes 7.1 jacks and 6 SATA 3 ports. But that's all not so important. The important advantages are the better chipset (H87), far better quality and better cooling. All that increases lifetime. And this mainboard is made to handle an i5.

 

I changed the PSU to the same model, only the 500W version because it's cheaper and will be enough.

 

At last I changed the GPU to a Gigabyte GTX 760 OC, again because it's cheaper and the performance will be the same.

 

So I summed up my recommendations on pcpartpicker: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f92VmG

I completly igonored the pcpartpicker prices and went straight to the best chioces for your website. So this is what I would buy.

Ok, yeah, the CPU and GPU you chose are cheaper. And yeah, if the PC doesn't need much power, then of course is wise to choose a lower wattage PSU.

But still 2 questions, how can I upgrade the BIOS, when it says I have to do it prior to using the CPU?? The PC doesn't work without CPU.

Second is, as I said, you have missed the monitor's price, with the monitor, the price is 920€, which is right about the price of CPU cooler. What should I do?

[Held657]

Ok, yeah, the CPU and GPU you chose are cheaper. And yeah, if the PC doesn't need much power, then of course is wise to choose a lower wattage PSU.

But still 2 questions, how can I upgrade the BIOS, when it says I have to do it prior to using the CPU?? The PC doesn't work without CPU.

Second is, as I said, you have missed the monitor's price, with the monitor, the price is 920€, which is right about the price of CPU cooler. What should I do?

 

There are multiple options now, but only two are realistic. Either you grab a Haswell i5 (no refresh) with the H87 mainboard, or you grab a Haswell Refresh i5 with a H97 mainboard. So these are the options:

 

1) Intel Core i5 4430 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Protsessorid-CPU-LGA-1150-protsessorid/Intel-Core-i5-4430-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-320-GHz-Box-9290) 163,99€ + MSI H87M-G43 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/MSI-H87M-G43-Intel-H87-Socket-1150-mATX-21443) 69,34€   = 233,33€

 

2) Intel Core i5 4460 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Protsessorid-CPU-LGA-1150-protsessorid/Intel-Core-i5-4460-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-340-GHz-Box-106047) 159,90€ + Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/Gigabyte-GA-H97M-D3H-H97-DualDDR3-1600-SATA3-RAID-HDMI-DVI-D-Sub-mATX-105578) 75,35€   = 235,25€

 

With a price difference about 2€ option two is defenetly better because of the more powerfull and cooler CPU and newer mainboard.

 

I understand you want to save as much money as possible and we are getting even more expensive again. But the truth is good hardware is just not that cheap, especially in Estonia. So I want to speak about a point again I already mentioned I think: Cutting out the SSD, or at least save some money on it.

 

1) Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm HDD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-1TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-64MB-ST1000DM003-20883) 51,50€ + ADATA Premier Pro SP 900 128GB SSD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-SSD/SSD-Adata-Premier-Pro-SP900-128GB-SATA3-kiirus-550-520MBs-IOPS-85K-9698) 64,14€   = 115,64€

 

2) Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm HDD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-1TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-64MB-ST1000DM003-20883) 51,50€ + ADATA Premier Pro SP 600 64GB SSD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-SSD/SSD-Adata-Premier-Pro-SP600-64GB-SATA3-340-70MBs-IOPS-40-30K-9706) 42,18€   = 93,68€

 

3) Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm HDD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-1TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-64MB-ST1000DM003-20883) 51,50€

 

A SSD is still a prestige object. Sure it's nice having your OS on a SDD and the difference is very noticeable, but it's no necessarity at all. Modern HDDs are not that slow and will do just fine, and if the games are installed on the HDD there is no performance advantage anyway with a SSD (if you install a game on the SSD the only advantage is faster loading speed). So you could really save this money or at least cut down to a 64GB SSD, so you can still install your OS on the SSD.

[-Veteran007-]

There are multiple options now, but only two are realistic. Either you grab a Haswell i5 (no refresh) with the H87 mainboard, or you grab a Haswell Refresh i5 with a H97 mainboard. So these are the options:

 

1) Intel Core i5 4430 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Protsessorid-CPU-LGA-1150-protsessorid/Intel-Core-i5-4430-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-320-GHz-Box-9290) 163,99€ + MSI H87M-G43 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/MSI-H87M-G43-Intel-H87-Socket-1150-mATX-21443) 69,34€   = 233,33€

 

2) Intel Core i5 4460 (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Protsessorid-CPU-LGA-1150-protsessorid/Intel-Core-i5-4460-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-340-GHz-Box-106047) 159,90€ + Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Emaplaadid-LGA-1150-emaplaadid/Gigabyte-GA-H97M-D3H-H97-DualDDR3-1600-SATA3-RAID-HDMI-DVI-D-Sub-mATX-105578) 75,35€   = 235,25€

 

With a price difference about 2€ option two is defenetly better because of the more powerfull and cooler CPU and newer mainboard.

 

I understand you want to save as much money as possible and we are getting even more expensive again. But the truth is good hardware is just not that cheap, especially in Estonia. So I want to speak about a point again I already mentioned I think: Cutting out the SSD, or at least save some money on it.

 

1) Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm HDD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-1TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-64MB-ST1000DM003-20883) 51,50€ + ADATA Premier Pro SP 900 128GB SSD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-SSD/SSD-Adata-Premier-Pro-SP900-128GB-SATA3-kiirus-550-520MBs-IOPS-85K-9698) 64,14€   = 115,64€

 

2) Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm HDD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-1TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-64MB-ST1000DM003-20883) 51,50€ + ADATA Premier Pro SP 600 64GB SSD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-SSD/SSD-Adata-Premier-Pro-SP600-64GB-SATA3-340-70MBs-IOPS-40-30K-9706) 42,18€   = 93,68€

 

3) Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB 7200rpm HDD (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-1TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-64MB-ST1000DM003-20883) 51,50€

 

A SSD is still a prestige object. Sure it's nice having your OS on a SDD and the difference is very noticeable, but it's no necessarity at all. Modern HDDs are not that slow and will do just fine, and if the games are installed on the HDD there is no performance advantage anyway with a SSD (if you install a game on the SSD the only advantage is faster loading speed). So you could really save this money or at least cut down to a 64GB SSD, so you can still install your OS on the SSD.

Wow, the price difference on the 2 options is so small, I am certainly getting the newer one then.

But about the SSD and HDD option, there is also hybrid, what about them? I know the SSD takes a lot from the budget, but I thought that it was one thing that would be worth the money, as I would have put the OS and most frequent programs on it, like browser or something like that. The 64GB option is worth of considering. As I wouldn't of put a lot of things on the SSD anyway.

And yeah, choosing a cheaper version might be a thing to consider also, as the write speed won't be such a big deal, after the first installation of all the programs.

[Held657]

Wow, the price difference on the 2 options is so small, I am certainly getting the newer one then.

But about the SSD and HDD option, there is also hybrid, what about them? I know the SSD takes a lot from the budget, but I thought that it was one thing that would be worth the money, as I would have put the OS and most frequent programs on it, like browser or something like that. The 64GB option is worth of considering. As I wouldn't of put a lot of things on the SSD anyway.

And yeah, choosing a cheaper version might be a thing to consider also, as the write speed won't be such a big deal, after the first installation of all the programs.

 

Yeah I thought about SSHD (hybrid),too. The problem is, that your store only offers the 2TB hybrid drive, and that costs 98€ (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-2TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-ST2000DX001-SEAGATE-70467). I sensed if you picked a 1TB drive in the first place you wouldn't need 2TB and the 1TB + 64GB SSD solution would be cheaper and faster, so I didn't mention the SSHD.

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Yeah I thought about SSHD (hybrid),too. The problem is, that your store only offers the 2TB hybrid drive, and that costs 98€ (http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Lauaarvuti-kovakettad/SEAGATE-HDD-SATA-2TB-7200RPM-6GB-S-ST2000DX001-SEAGATE-70467). I sensed if you picked a 1TB drive in the first place you wouldn't need 2TB and the 1TB + 64GB SSD solution would be cheaper and faster, so I didn't mention the SSHD.

Actually, there is a hybrid 1TB http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-Hybriid-kovakettad-SSHD/Seagate-Desktop-SSHD-35-1TB-SATA3-7200RPM-64MB-cache-8GB-SSD-70562 Would this be worth the money?

For now the parts are just a bit over 900€, so this is a good thing. I switched the SSD to SP900 64GB http://arvutitark.ee/est/TOOTEKATALOOG/ARVUTIKOMPONENDID-Kovakettad-HDD-SSD/SSD-Adata-Premier-Pro-SP900-64GB-SATA3-kiirus-550-505MBs-IOPS-85K-9697 The lower read write speeds for an SSD scare me, because HDD has about as low read and write speeds, so I want the best out of an SSD.

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I checked 3 times for a 1TB hybrid and still missed it  :angry: . But good you found it. But first things first. Don't care too much for the write/read speeds that are listed, they are just of benchmarks that are far away from the actual use. The 64GB SSD will be slower than the 128GB, but it will still be much faster than the HDD, because the HDD gets really slow if it has to collect data from different places of the disk, the SSD doesn't have this problem. There's even more to that but let's not go too deep into this, especially because I'm not an HDD/SSD expert. 

The 1TB hybrid and the HDD+SSD combination are both great value. The HDD+SSD is faster, but more expensive. I personally would buy the hybrid drive, because it has the advantage that you don't have to organise your storage so much. With the HDD + SSD you always have to look out to put all your data on the HDD etc.

At least you have to decide if you go through a bit more troube setting up your pc (not really that much though) and invest a bit more money, but get a faster OS because of the SSD. Or you want to keep it a bit more simple and cheaper then go with the hybrid drive.