Gaming Build help

[JasperWeiss]

Hello there guys,

To start off I am completely new to the forums of Linus Tech Tips. I am from The Netherlands (aka 'Holland'. or 'Pays-bas' if you'r french) 

I'd like to build a gaming oriënted pc. 

My goal is to get a serious decent performing pc for as little money as possible

Also some things I take into consideration is noise, heat output and energy usage. €800 max (or $1000 USD / $1100 CAD)

 

-Corsair Vengeance C70

-I5-4670K / FX-8350

-Kingston hyperX fury

-MSI G45 Gaming (both 1150 and am3+ versions available)

-Corsair RM450

-MSI R9 270X

-Cooler master hyper 212 evo

-WD Black 1TB

 

(As you can see I'm using mainly MSI and corsair, Because I find Asus a bit over priced with features I won't care about anyway) 

 

So I've recently found out that the MSI R9 270X with mantle and 4GB of VRAM performs very well at games like BF4.

And considering the price (€170 Euro's, 231 USD, 247 CAD)in my country much more reasonable priced

compared to a GTX 760 (€204 Euro's, 277 USD, 269 CAD) and it performs similar if not better with mantle. 

 

Now the problem is, the CPU..

I'm looking at an I5-4670K or an FX-8350, but it is so hard to find real useable data on these 2 because of the fan boys.

Nobody can clearly tell what CPU to buy IMO, because one says Intel is better blabla and AMD is crap and vice versa.

 

So the magical question is "What will I do with it?"

 

-Games like Battlefield 4

-Minecraft

-Basic photoshopping

-Software development.

-Web surving / Video streaming

 

Altough games such as BF4 do benefit from the 8 cores. Minecraft does NOT. 

What will be an overal better bet? I do look at the fact that AMD is slightly cheaper in general and also use a little bit more energy.

But the main thing is, more cores? or better single core performance? 

 

P.S, If you are a fanboy (or prefere any of the 2 brands over the other one) please do not cause this topic to become an AMD vs Intel war because that is no use. Also I am personally completely open to both myself and I'm not a fanboy of either. 

 

Help is greatly appreciated

[dragoon20005]

instead of getting the 270X 4GB

 

find a R9 280 which is better than what you will be getting

 

the R9 280 is actually the HD7950 Boost while the 270X is a HD7870 GHz edition

 

the 270X 4GB cost almost the same as the R9 280

 

3GB is currently the sweet spot for gaming at 1080P very high details

 

bump your PSU to a 500-550 watts and you are rocking BF4 very soon

[hemidreamer]

I have always been on the side of the single core performance than more cores and less perfomance per core, so I would get the i5 4670k or i5 4690k if/when available.

 

I would recommend getting the R9 280 too if you want to think a little bit about the future or go with the R9 270X which is similar to my Gigabyte GTX 760 2GB OC and I can run pretty much all the games with max graphics including BF4 and I'm happy with it . Not putting an SSD into a 800€ build would be a sin, you could benefit alot from it and no loading screens for BF4, if you can't buy it right now then definitely buy one later . 

 

Aslo add a more powerful PSU like 550W-600W.

[flyingbananataco]

That's an awesome build. You can get the 280, it's an awesome performer, but you're saying that energy consumption is an issue so maybe a GTX 760 can give you more power in CUDA applications and games with less energy consumption. Nvidia cards usually needs less power than AMD cards.

I would pick the GTX 760 only if you use CUDA applications, that can help you a lot, if not, stick with the 270x or buy a 280. That depends on how much you can to spend

[JasperWeiss]

So I've been thinking about the fact that nextgen consoles all seem to use 8 cores and this does say something about upcoming games. But every body seems to recommend the I5-4670K so I guess it might be worth paying the extra $30 for Intel.

And for the graphics card, people recommend an R9 280 instead of an R9 270X

But when I look up some benchmarks it's always 270x vs 280x and there's not all whole lot abou the 280. Could someone show me some benchmarks?

As for the PSU, I wanted a high quality psu rather than a psu with more wattage which it, according to some calculations, doesn't need. Do I really need more than 450 if the system uses around 350 at full load?

[dragoon20005]

So I've been thinking about the fact that nextgen consoles all seem to use 8 cores and this does say something about upcoming games. But every body seems to recommend the I5-4670K so I guess it might be worth paying the extra $30 for Intel.

And for the graphics card, people recommend an R9 280 instead of an R9 270X

But when I look up some benchmarks it's always 270x vs 280x and there's not all whole lot abou the 280. Could someone show me some benchmarks?

As for the PSU, I wanted a high quality psu rather than a psu with more wattage which it, according to some calculations, doesn't need. Do I really need more than 450 if the system uses around 350 at full load?

not really

 

In the PS4 and Xbox One, game only can use up to 6 cores

 

the other 2 cores are for OS.

 

280 is quite a new GPU

 

but you can look for HD7950 Boost benchmarks as the 280 is a rebrand of the HD7950 Boost with higher clocks

 

you can opt for better rating low wattage PSU, pick a one with at least Gold Rating 500 Watts PSU but avoid Corsair RM series as they use cheap caps in their PSU

 

Seasonic or the CoolerMaster VSM series are good

[Rubenis]

So I've been thinking about the fact that nextgen consoles all seem to use 8 cores and this does say something about upcoming games. But every body seems to recommend the I5-4670K so I guess it might be worth paying the extra $30 for Intel.

And for the graphics card, people recommend an R9 280 instead of an R9 270X

But when I look up some benchmarks it's always 270x vs 280x and there's not all whole lot abou the 280. Could someone show me some benchmarks?

As for the PSU, I wanted a high quality psu rather than a psu with more wattage which it, according to some calculations, doesn't need. Do I really need more than 450 if the system uses around 350 at full load?

Well thing with consoles and cores are simple.

 

New consoles use more, but slower cores. Intel consumer grade CPUs are maxed at 4 cores, but these cores are faster, much more efficient and will get job done even better than console 8 cores.

[JasperWeiss]

not really

 

In the PS4 and Xbox One, game only can use up to 6 cores

 

the other 2 cores are for OS.

 

280 is quite a new GPU

 

but you can look for HD7950 Boost benchmarks as the 280 is a rebrand of the HD7950 Boost with higher clocks

 

you can opt for better rating low wattage PSU, pick a one with at least Gold Rating 500 Watts PSU but avoid Corsair RM series as they use cheap caps in their PSU

 

Seasonic or the CoolerMaster VSM series are good

 

yeah just read that somewhere aswell, but newer games such as battlefield are getting optimized for more cores, 

But still I think I should opt for the I5 because besides gaming it's better for most things I'll be doing. And I really can't afford the I7.

So for the graphics card, I think I should stick to the 2GB 270X as the 280 would exceed my budget. 

But maybe I could save some money on the motherboard to get an 280. but I'm not sure if should go below $100?

[dragoon20005]

yeah just read that somewhere aswell, but newer games such as battlefield are getting optimized for more cores, 

But still I think I should opt for the I5 because besides gaming it's better for most things I'll be doing. And I really can't afford the I7.

So for the graphics card, I think I should stick to the 2GB 270X as the 280 would exceed my budget. 

But maybe I could save some money on the motherboard to get an 280. but I'm not sure if should go below $100?

i not sure what your max budget

 

but heres what i can come up with

 

you can opt for a cheaper case here

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($123.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $849.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[JasperWeiss]

 

i not sure what your max budget

 

but heres what i can come up with

 

you can opt for a cheaper case here

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($123.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Cooler Master N600 Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $849.89

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

 

Thank you very much for this list, I guess this will be my build then maybe swap the case for something that I find mor aesthetically pleasing

This build costs around 640 Euros which is perfectly below the budget. The parts are also much cheaper than in my local tech store.

So again thanks!