Same price range, AMD or Intel/Nvidia?

[StingBull]

I found two laptops in the same price range from MSI, the only difference being one has an Intel CPU and an Nvidia GPU whereas the other has an AMD CPU and GPU. Which one do you think is better?

 

 

 

MSI GE70:

 

- Intel i7-4710HQ

- Nvidia GTX860M 2GB

 

 

MSI GX70:

 

- AMD A10-5750M

- AMD Radeon HD8970M 2GB

[Paralectic]

GX70 without even considering the GE70.

[lani100]

Go with the intel

Amd cpu's in laptops suck!

[Sauron]

The GE70 is faster cpuwise, but the graphics in the GX70 absolutely destroy the 860m.

[Izaya Orihara]

For the CPU the GE70 is light-years ahead the GX70. But the HD8970 is much stronger than the GTX860. 

[Izaya Orihara]

The GE70 is faster cpuwise, but the graphics in the GX70 absolutely destroy the 860m.

EDIT: I did a stupid. 

[Sauron]

Amd cpu's in laptops suck!

 

They are actually pretty good for the price and don't consume a lot of power. Amd got it right with their apu design, especially considering faster but more expensive cpus like that i7 make next to no difference in gaming, which is what these laptops seem to be all about.

[Sauron]

You messed GE70 and GX70 up. You meant GX70 at the beginning and GE70 at the end. 

 

Check the names again, the GE is the one with the i7

[Askew]

The GE70 has a CPU with a passmark score of 8058

The GX70 has a CPU with a passmark score of 3652

 

Source

 

The GX70 has a better GPU according to GPUBOSS.

 

 

I would take the GE70 hands down because of the immensely superior CPU, and still reasonable (but weaker) GPU, I believe this to be the best decision for a laptop, I would much rather have a laptop with a better CPU.

[Izaya Orihara]

Check the names again, the GE is the one with the i7

Ups. I'm a derp. 

[lani100]

They are actually pretty good for the price and don't consume a lot of power. Amd got it right with their apu design, especially considering faster but more expensive cpus like that i7 make next to no difference in gaming, which is what these laptops seem to be all about.

they bottleneck gpu's badly

[Sauron]

they bottleneck gpu's badly

 

Show me a benchmark where it does, "badly".

[lani100]

Show me a benchmark where it does, "badly".

They just do even the 8350 you don't realy see it in a benchmark but you just feel it.

And there loads of reviews saying that this is nice laptop with a beefy gpu but it's just being bottlenecked.

[thebennyboy]

They just do even the 8350 you don't realy see it in a benchmark but you just feel it.

And there loads of reviews saying that this is nice laptop with a beefy gpu but it's just being bottlenecked.

 

Show us some evidence, at the moment you're just talking out of your ass.

[Bloodkil933]

The GE70 has a CPU with a passmark score of 8058

The GX70 has a CPU with a passmark score of 3652

 

Source

 

The GX70 has a better GPU according to GPUBOSS.

 

 

I would take the GE70 hands down because of the immensely superior CPU, and still reasonable (but weaker) GPU, I believe this to be the best decision for a laptop.

The A10 isn't going to bottleneck the better performing AMD GPU, it doesn't matter with CPU's in laptop's. I severely doubt a lot of people do CPU intensive tasks on a laptop anyway.

[TheSLSAMG]

The comparison in itself is extremely difficult, considering you are comparing the laptop equivalents of the i5 4670 and A10 5700 (performance wise), while comparing the laptop equivalents of the GTX 750 Ti and R9 270 (performance wise, very rough estimates). For gaming, the performance edge is dependent on whether the application is CPU-intensive or GPU-intensive. If the game is CPU-int, the Intel rig will do better. If the other way around, the AMD rig will pull ahead.

 

Nevertheless, they will both suffice as gaming rigs, but the Intel/NVIDIA machine will possibly run cooler and have longer battery life. Take your own decision from there.

[lani100]

Show us some evidence, at the moment you're just talking out of your ass.

-___-  Look for reviews about the laptop loads of good reviewers say it's being bottlenecked.

I am not going to start this discussion again just try some heavy games and you will feel it directly. 

[Bloodkil933]

-___-  Look for reviews about the laptop loads of good reviewers say it's being bottlenecked.

I am not going to start this discussion again just try some heavy games and you will feel it directly. 

You will only notice a bottleneck like that on games that are terribly optimised and CPU intensive.

[StingBull]

I found this review on notebookcheck.com http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GX70H-A108972811B-Notebook.99516.0.html

 

The review is pretty negative about the GX70 and the comments underneath follow the same tune. I'll go with Intel and Nvidia on this one.

[thebennyboy]

-___-  Look for reviews about the laptop loads of good reviewers say it's being bottlenecked.

I am not going to start this discussion again just try some heavy games and you will feel it directly. 

 

Perhaps you know about Mantle? No? Obviously not. Mantle and DirectX 12 will iron out the bottleneck, it was built to be optimised. DirectX 11 is a dog when it comes to multicore load balancing.

 

If you live in the now: GE70

It will perform much better on current generation of games that rely on DirectX 11 and below.

 

If you live in the future and want to therefor be FUTUREproof: GX70

Will perform better in some newer titles as a lot of them have Mantle support. When DirectX 12 comes out the GX70 is probably a better bet.

[lani100]

You will only notice a bottleneck like that on games that are terribly optimised and CPU intensive.

Nah even Bf4 and older games/.

 

Perhaps you know about Mantle? No? Obviously not. Mantle and DirectX 12 will iron out the bottleneck, it was built to be optimised. DirectX 11 is a dog when it comes to multicore load balancing.

Yes I know that's true but how many games do support Mantle these days? 

But still even tho the intel laptop has a bit slower gpu it still outperforms the amd one.

Clearly dealing with an AMD fanboy here have fun mate, I have had AMD for years but even with a big oc on a 8320 I noticed a miss in performance.

[thebennyboy]

Nah even Bf4 and older games/.

 

Yes I know that's true but how many games do support Mantle these days? 

But still even tho the intel laptop has a bit slower gpu it still outperforms the amd one.

Clearly dealing with an AMD fanboy here have fun mate, I have had AMD for years but even with a big oc on a 8320 I noticed a miss in performance.

 

I personally prefer AMD and unlike some i explain my reasoning.

[Sauron]

They just do even the 8350 you don't realy see it in a benchmark but you just feel it.

 

Oh come on... don't go fanboy on me... the numbers are what counts, if benchmarks say it's the same in  game, it's the same in that game, you don't "feel" the difference. That amd laptop will destroy the intel one in games, no question about that. It's just faster, and even if the gpu is being slightly bottlenecked (only in cpu intensive games though) it's still faster than the 860m.

 

@StingBull ^

[Sound Blast]

I would avoid the GX70 because the CPU is much weaker and less efficient (more than half slower than the i7). I would also go for better CPU than GPU. And in notebooks, overheating problems is a common issue, and AMD has more power hungry and higher thermals than the green counterpart. For notebooks, Intel & Nvidia was always better at efficiency for battery life.

 

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[thebennyboy]

I would avoid the GX70 because the CPU is much weaker and less efficient (more than half slower than the i7). I would also go for better CPU than GPU. And in notebooks, overheating problems is a common issue, and AMD has more power hungry and higher thermals than the green counterpart. For notebooks, Intel & Nvidia was always better at efficiency for battery life.

 

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Depends on what the OP is using the laptop for.