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so i am planning a crazy showcase using a seperate waterbox istead of mounting rads in the case. also im gonna build the case myself.


my question now is: if i cool everthing with that waterbox can i theoreticly seal the case with it components ? i imagine a glass cube with the components inside on display and just the 2 hoses going in and out of it and having it otherwise totally sealed. i mean obviously its gonna be able to open somehow but my question is if the system can run with no airfow whatsoever when liquid cooled by waterbox?


"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

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Unless you waterblock all CPU components, no, you will need some airflow. Things besides the GPU, CPU, RAM, and drives generate heat.

I really wish that we'd just make organic hardware already, that grows and adapts to the demands it needs to meet. That way, grannies' computers can be floppy sacks of organicness and the 12 year old Minecrafters will look like the guys that only do bicep curls, and the nerdy programmers will finally have justice, with their body-builder rigs that skipped leg day.


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Just get your motherboard and RAM within the loop. Expensive but it works.

True. However, I think he could just have one fan and an open top to showcase it. As in, have the MoBo lie on the bottom of the glass box, mounted of course, have your setup and all, and still pass the water cooling tubes through one of the glass walls, but keep it open-top for "showcasing" purposes. No one would know better, and he could save upward of a couple hundred dollars.

I really wish that we'd just make organic hardware already, that grows and adapts to the demands it needs to meet. That way, grannies' computers can be floppy sacks of organicness and the 12 year old Minecrafters will look like the guys that only do bicep curls, and the nerdy programmers will finally have justice, with their body-builder rigs that skipped leg day.


CPU: i7-4770k 4.8GHz | Motherboard: Asus Maximus Hero | RAM: 16gigs 2133MHz | GPU: SLI Gigabyte OC 2gb 770's | Case: INWIN GRone | Storage: 1tb Blue, 60gb SSD | PSU: Silencer MK II 950w | Cooling: Modded H100i

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Unless you waterblock all CPU components, no, you will need some airflow. Things besides the GPU, CPU, RAM, and drives generate heat.

 

Just get your motherboard and RAM within the loop. Expensive but it works.

ok so i get a cpu block a gpu block a ram block a mobo block kit and then im golden? do i really have to consider colling 2 samsung evos?

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3

 

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True. However, I think he could just have one fan and an open top to showcase it. As in, have the MoBo lie on the bottom of the glass box, mounted of course, have your setup and all, and still pass the water cooling tubes through one of the glass walls, but keep it open-top for "showcasing" purposes. No one would know better, and he could save upward of a couple hundred dollars.

Of course, this completely nullifies the "no airflow" bit. So I will side with this;

Just get your motherboard and RAM within the loop. Expensive but it works.

This method is completely viable, but will cost a bit more, and will be harder to plan out compatibility and such.

 

But hey, it'll look, and be, cooler.  B)

I really wish that we'd just make organic hardware already, that grows and adapts to the demands it needs to meet. That way, grannies' computers can be floppy sacks of organicness and the 12 year old Minecrafters will look like the guys that only do bicep curls, and the nerdy programmers will finally have justice, with their body-builder rigs that skipped leg day.


CPU: i7-4770k 4.8GHz | Motherboard: Asus Maximus Hero | RAM: 16gigs 2133MHz | GPU: SLI Gigabyte OC 2gb 770's | Case: INWIN GRone | Storage: 1tb Blue, 60gb SSD | PSU: Silencer MK II 950w | Cooling: Modded H100i

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ok so i get a cpu block a gpu block a ram block a mobo block kit and then im golden? do i really have to consider colling 2 samsung evos?

I don't think you'd need to waterblock an SSD at all.

I really wish that we'd just make organic hardware already, that grows and adapts to the demands it needs to meet. That way, grannies' computers can be floppy sacks of organicness and the 12 year old Minecrafters will look like the guys that only do bicep curls, and the nerdy programmers will finally have justice, with their body-builder rigs that skipped leg day.


CPU: i7-4770k 4.8GHz | Motherboard: Asus Maximus Hero | RAM: 16gigs 2133MHz | GPU: SLI Gigabyte OC 2gb 770's | Case: INWIN GRone | Storage: 1tb Blue, 60gb SSD | PSU: Silencer MK II 950w | Cooling: Modded H100i

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True. However, I think he could just have one fan and an open top to showcase it. As in, have the MoBo lie on the bottom of the glass box, mounted of course, have your setup and all, and still pass the water cooling tubes through one of the glass walls, but keep it open-top for "showcasing" purposes. No one would know better, and he could save upward of a couple hundred dollars.

thanks for the reply but surounding my mobo with 4 glass walls was not the idea. the thing that makes this build interesting for me is the fact that its sealed and also it would stay dust free

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3

 

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Of course, this completely nullifies the "no airflow" bit. So I will side with this;

This method is completely viable, but will cost a bit more, and will be harder to plan out compatibility and such.

 

But hey, it'll look, and be, cooler.  B)

 

I don't think you'd need to waterblock an SSD at all.

thanks for the replys what about components like psu and hdds? is there a way to include them in the case or should i somehow mount them under and outside the cube? also are there flat high end psu i mean at least more flat than standard?

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3

 

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You could place them externally somewhere.

+1. If you're displaying this at a show or something, have one of those rolling tables, and a cloth over the top. A hole in the bottom of the cube to route cables through, and you're fine. If you plan on actually using a harddrive, heat shouldn't, but might be an issue, if you're doing something like showcasing various things on-screen throughout the demo. If it's an SSD, you're fine.

 

You could mount the PSU inside of the cube, as well, but you should make sure that it's modular. Maybe you could put together a mineral-oil cooled rig in a glass cube, with waterblocked CPU/GPU? That would look cool, and be even more impressive with a proper watercooling loop going through one of the sides.

I really wish that we'd just make organic hardware already, that grows and adapts to the demands it needs to meet. That way, grannies' computers can be floppy sacks of organicness and the 12 year old Minecrafters will look like the guys that only do bicep curls, and the nerdy programmers will finally have justice, with their body-builder rigs that skipped leg day.


CPU: i7-4770k 4.8GHz | Motherboard: Asus Maximus Hero | RAM: 16gigs 2133MHz | GPU: SLI Gigabyte OC 2gb 770's | Case: INWIN GRone | Storage: 1tb Blue, 60gb SSD | PSU: Silencer MK II 950w | Cooling: Modded H100i

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ok so i get a cpu block a gpu block a ram block a mobo block kit and then im golden? do i really have to consider colling 2 samsung evos?

 

 

depends on the material you use, if you only use plastic it could get quite hot in the case because plastic is a thermal isolator.

but if you use some conductive material like glass or metal or you have great surface you should be fine.

 

you could also think about some other way to get the air cool. an idea would be to take a cpu heatsink to mount facing inwars and a waterblock facing outwards with this you would be able to get enought heat out to leave the ram and motherboard on air.

 

probibly make some tests how hot your components get, ssds can get warm as well as other parts from the motherboard.

 

if you have some way to get heat out of the case, you could put the psu inside, and the hdds aswell.

the fan of the powersuply helps to get some ventilation so you avoid heat-traps, but the psu disipates lots of heat to be moved out the case.

i am not a native speaker of the english language

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+1. If you're displaying this at a show or something, have one of those rolling tables, and a cloth over the top. A hole in the bottom of the cube to route cables through, and you're fine. If you plan on actually using a harddrive, heat shouldn't, but might be an issue, if you're doing something like showcasing various things on-screen throughout the demo. If it's an SSD, you're fine.

 

You could mount the PSU inside of the cube, as well, but you should make sure that it's modular. Maybe you could put together a mineral-oil cooled rig in a glass cube, with waterblocked CPU/GPU? That would look cool, and be even more impressive with a proper watercooling loop going through one of the sides.

wow that mineral oil idea sound really impressive but would i have to circle the oil somehow too. i mean just droping some 30 liter of mineral oil wont do it right? then you need to also circulate that somehow and maybe even filter it? also im a bit concerned about some parts like plastic or something working with the oil. 

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3

 

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wow that mineral oil idea sound really impressive but would i have to circle the oil somehow too. i mean just droping some 30 liter of mineral oil wont do it right? then you need to also circulate that somehow and maybe even filter it? also im a bit concerned about some parts like plastic or something working with the oil. 

oil can be quite tricky, watch slicks pc update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqj-p2ywA84

it could make you lots of problems desolving plastic overtime, i'd try not to go on oil

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oil can be quite tricky, watch slicks pc update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqj-p2ywA84

it could make you lots of problems desolving plastic overtime, i'd try not to go on oil

yeah i imagine drying out parts would also be a b*tch

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

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