Video Editing PC

[Masfiras]

Hi guys,

 

I'm planning biuld a Video Editing machine, for Adobe Premiere CS6, After Effects and Flash (Adobe Creative Suite CS6 in general) and . I'd to gaming on that pc too, like Black Ops II, BF3 and Far Cry 3.

I'm sure ill overclock this machine for better results.
I started my build on a Newegg's wish list and i need some opinions about some doubts i have.

Hardware Specs:

Intel Core i7 3930k
AsRock X79 Extreme9

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3 2400 

Galaxy GTX 680 4GB GC
XFX PSU 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum
Sansung 840 PRO 128GB (caching)

Sansung 840 PRO 256GB (Programs and stuff)

1x Seagate Barracuda 3TB Sata III (Temp Project Files)

4x WD Red 2TB Sata III (Video projects Storage)

1x LG Blu-ray Writer w/ 3D Playback

Swiftech H220 Water Cooler

Noctua NF-F12 (for SP) 
Noctua NF-P12 (for Air Flow)

Antec P280 White
Windows 7 Professional System Builder

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms 

 

Asus Xonar Essence STX

 

 

I need a lot of space cause every project is about 300 - 600 GB

Planning to use 3 - 4 Monitors (24" main monitor, 19" monitor for multicam manager, import archives and transitions, 32" LED TV for Preview (I already have that one), and a 15" for folders, video transitions and effects list).
​I know it's a lot of money but i'm planning stay with that computer at least 4 years. and less expensive than buying a nice Mac Pro.
I'm going to buy at US at December cause i live in Brazil and that's where ill have my vacations so that the only time ill have to travel there.

Because of the new Intel Generation core i7 coming, i'm planning to change the 3930k for the 4930k, and about the new Geforce 700 series too.

Maybe ill need a nice audio external card like the M Box for AVID Pro Tools.

My buget: $4500 US, but i want to spent a lot less.

My doubts:

Does it worth get a GTX 680 or a GTX 660Ti?
Memory, 64GB or 32GB ? And what about speed ?
Two SSDs, should I get it one SSD for caching or by having one and a HDD is better ?

[winny3141]

Let me be the first to point out that you made a great decision with getting the Intel Core i7 3930k. Even though the 4770k is a lot a cheaper and is going to have a new instruction set, the six cores of processing power really makes a difference over 4 for video editing. Also, the 3930k is 570$, while a 3960X or a 3970X is at $1k pricing, only giving you slightly better core clocks and like 3 MB more of L3 cahce. So, yes, go with the 3930k, going with the higher end stuff will only give you 5% performance gain. And I see that you have an Nvidia card, because in CS6 CUDA (Compute Uniform Device Architecture) has integrated GPU acceleration to render and better enhance your editing. I can't criticize you on storage, its your preference, but I do not think you need a caching drive! I mean, is the read/write speeds on the 840 pro not enough? But if you think it will give you greater speeds, go for it. XFX does make great PSUs, but I would recommend you taking a look at http://www.jonnyguru.com/ just to double check if it is a good psu (Linus recommended it).There is a GIANT difference between that of the 660 ti and a 680. This includes the fact that a 680 has around 1536 CUDA cores, and a 256-bit memory interface, while the 660ti has a 192 bit memory interface and around 1344 CUDA cores. Even though the 680 and the 660 ti share specs with each other in terms of CUDA cores, it is awfully close, you will want to go with the 256-bit memory interface. What the extra memory interface gives you is a better frame buffer, which means more information from the GPU can travel faster to the RAM to be converted from Analog to the Digital Signal you see on your screen. This will help you get more FPS, as I previously mentioned, and help you get better performance in your Adobe Suite of Applications.

 

Oh and I WAIT to build your system. The 780 is rumored to come out on May 23rd, 2013.

Here are some of the rumored specs:

http://videocardz.com/41336/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-features-gk110-300-gpu

 

 

 

 

I hope I was of some help, and you probably already know this, but I took the liberty of posting the Nvidia page of all the benifits that CUDA gives in Primier editing.

 

Also, I would recommend you take a look at OCZ SSDs. Samsung is great, they are one of the only OEMs on the market, but the Vertex 4 is a newer drive, and provides faster read speeds than that of the 840 Pro, because it has been out a shorter period of time than that of the 840 pro. The OCZ Vertex 4 has slower writes, by like 10 MB/s, which is why I would secondly recomend the OCZ Vector, an SSD that has better read/write performance than that of the 840 pro still, less read speeds than that of the vertex 4, but better writes, by like 20 MB/s (and only 10 MB/s less write speeds).

 

OCZ Vertex 4:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227792

 

OCZ Vector:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227916

 

Samsung 840 Pro:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193

 

Nvidia CUDA benefits in Adobe CS6:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-cs6.html

 

- winny3141 :D

[Hobox]

As winny says, wait for the GTX 780. Secondly, I'd say wait for the new Haswell CPU's to be officially announced to see if anything is mentioned on Ivy Bridge-E. If so and if the wait isn't very long, then I'd say get it over Sandy Bridge-E. Apparently there could be quite a bump in performance for these enthusiast CPU's unlike the minor bump in the mainstream ones. If they don't mention it or the release is far off go ahead and get the 3930K.

[Masfiras]

Let me be the first to point out that you made a great decision with getting the Intel Core i7 3930k. Even though the 4770k is a lot a cheaper and is going to have a new instruction set, the six cores of processing power really makes a difference over 4 for video editing. Also, the 3930k is 570$, while a 3960X or a 3970X is at $1k pricing, only giving you slightly better core clocks and like 3 MB more of L3 cahce. So, yes, go with the 3930k, going with the higher end stuff will only give you 5% performance gain. And I see that you have an Nvidia card, because in CS6 CUDA (Compute Uniform Device Architecture) has integrated GPU acceleration to render and better enhance your editing. I can't criticize you on storage, its your preference, but I do not think you need a caching drive! I mean, is the read/write speeds on the 840 pro not enough? But if you think it will give you greater speeds, go for it. XFX does make great PSUs, but I would recommend you taking a look at http://www.jonnyguru.com/ just to double check if it is a good psu (Linus recommended it).There is a GIANT difference between that of the 660 ti and a 680. This includes the fact that a 680 has around 1536 CUDA cores, and a 256-bit memory interface, while the 660ti has a 192 bit memory interface and around 1344 CUDA cores. Even though the 680 and the 660 ti share specs with each other in terms of CUDA cores, it is awfully close, you will want to go with the 256-bit memory interface. What the extra memory interface gives you is a better frame buffer, which means more information from the GPU can travel faster to the RAM to be converted from Analog to the Digital Signal you see on your screen. This will help you get more FPS, as I previously mentioned, and help you get better performance in your Adobe Suite of Applications.

Oh and I WAIT to build your system. The 780 is rumored to come out on May 23rd, 2013.

Here are some of the rumored specs:

http://videocardz.com/41336/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-features-gk110-300-gpu

I hope I was of some help, and you probably already know this, but I took the liberty of posting the Nvidia page of all the benifits that CUDA gives in Primier editing.

Also, I would recommend you take a look at OCZ SSDs. Samsung is great, they are one of the only OEMs on the market, but the Vertex 4 is a newer drive, and provides faster read speeds than that of the 840 Pro, because it has been out a shorter period of time than that of the 840 pro. The OCZ Vertex 4 has slower writes, by like 10 MB/s, which is why I would secondly recomend the OCZ Vector, an SSD that has better read/write performance than that of the 840 pro still, less read speeds than that of the vertex 4, but better writes, by like 20 MB/s (and only 10 MB/s less write speeds).

OCZ Vertex 4:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227792

OCZ Vector:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227916

Samsung 840 Pro:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193

Nvidia CUDA benefits in Adobe CS6:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-cs6.html

- winny3141 :D

 

As winny says, wait for the GTX 780. Secondly, I'd say wait for the new Haswell CPU's to be officially announced to see if anything is mentioned on Ivy Bridge-E. If so and if the wait isn't very long, then I'd say get it over Sandy Bridge-E. Apparently there could be quite a bump in performance for these enthusiast CPU's unlike the minor bump in the mainstream ones. If they don't mention it or the release is far off go ahead and get the 3930K.

I visited johnnyguru.com, and now i'm between 3 PSUs, still an option the XFX Pro Series, Seasonic Platinum and the new Super Flower Leadex.

About the SSD i think i'm still with the Sansung 840 Pro, it's cheaper than the OCZ Vector.and the Vertex 4, the other option i was thinking was the Kingston HyperX 3K.

I'm also interested about the new GTX 780, the problem is the price, even when manufacturer release there cards overclocked and with nice cooling solutions, but if i'm going to stay a long time with that machine so i guess it worth the money.

About the CPU i was talking about the upcoming Ivy Brigde-E 4930k and 4960x, not the quad-core 4770k. And that ill change, because of the PCIe 3.0 support and other features.

Another doubt i have is the Case, should i take the Antec P280 White or the Corsair C70 (Arctic White or Military Green) ?

[Hobox]

Cases are very personal preference once you get them down to a few choices, can't really help you there.

 

As for the 780, it shouldn't be very much more than a 680. Rumored price is starting at $599 while 680s are like 499 right now. Reference design should be perfectly fine as it's the same cooler and heatsink as a Titan, meaning it's got great cooling already. It's supposed to also be a 5GB card so you shouldn't need a higher-memory custom manufacturer's card.

 

And whether or not you get the 4930K or 3930K depends on release date, hopefully it comes with the release of Haswell 1150.

[Masfiras]

Cases are very personal preference once you get them down to a few choices, can't really help you there.

 

As for the 780, it shouldn't be very much more than a 680. Rumored price is starting at $599 while 680s are like 499 right now. Reference design should be perfectly fine as it's the same cooler and heatsink as a Titan, meaning it's got great cooling already. It's supposed to also be a 5GB card so you shouldn't need a higher-memory custom manufacturer's card.

 

And whether or not you get the 4930K or 3930K depends on release date, hopefully it comes with the release of Haswell 1150.

 

About the case i forgot to mention that im to make a push/pull configuration with the H220, thats why im a bit scarred if buying the Antec P280, i didn't found anything on google about that.

 

And i have just found out that the WD RED have 5400 RPM, is it true ?