help building pc

[Taku05]

Budget (including currency): 

Country: R70000

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p AAA gaming and 2d animation work

 

i dont know what im doing this is my first build , is this build ok?

[Imakuni]

Well yes, there are indeed some mistakes:

1. Swap the motherboard for a normal one. "Project Zero" is much more expensive and has much worse compatibility.
2. Go with a 6000mhz CL30 ram kit. Do not take faster than that, compatibility is shaky and not worth the hassle for a new builder.
3. Get an Nvidia GPU. It's unfortunate, but if you're doing non-gaming stuff, you really want access to CUDA in case an app of yours needs it.

[Hinjima]

10 minutes ago, Taku05 said:

Budget (including currency): 

Country: R70000

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p AAA gaming and 2d animation work

 

i dont know what im doing this is my first build , is this build ok?

 

 

The sweetspot for RAM is 6000Mhz CL30,  Getting 6800Mhz RAM to work with EXPO might be difficult.  It won't run in 1:1 without manual tweaking.

Just get 6000Mhz CL30 RAM  

The Montech AIO comes with thermal paste, no need to buy an extra tube.

You are also picking a MSI MicroATX motherboard, it will look weird in an full ATX case like the Lian Li 217.

For gaming we usually recommend the X3D CPU's like the 9800X3D, will your 2d animation work take advantage of more cores that are in the 9900x?

Remember that a B650 motherboard will require a BIOS update for the Ryzen 9000 series of CPU's to work, unless the motherboard ships with an updated BIOS of course.

 

[Taku05]

thank you , ye but i was trina go for the zero cable look, so which gpu? a 5070ti?

[Natural_Artichoke]

I'd recommend Arctic MX-6 paste. With TG you can achieve 1-2°C lower temperatures at most, but the paste degrades very quickly under stress. It loses its properties and capabilities after 6 months of use. The ideal is to re-paste it after 1 year. MX-6 will last at least 5 times as long.

[Hinjima]

Just now, Natural_Artichoke said:

I'd recommend Arctic MX-6 paste. With TG you can achieve 1-2°C lower temperatures at most, but the paste degrades very quickly under stress. It loses its properties and capabilities after 6 months of use. The ideal is to re-paste it after 1 year. MX-6 will last at least 5 times as long.

The AIO comes with good enough paste that will last years...
Recommending any paste at all is just a waste of money.

[Natural_Artichoke]

2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The AIO comes with good enough paste that will last years...
Recommending any paste at all is just a waste of money.

Yes, that's a good point.

[Hinjima]

Just now, Natural_Artichoke said:

Yes, that's a good point.

That being said, if one has to get more paste later if you are remounting the cooler, MX-6 is a good option  

[Taku05]

Just now, Hinjima said:

The AIO comes with good enough paste that will last years...
Recommending any paste at all is just a waste of money.

i got hired at an anime studio so i honestly dk i just thought more cause are better ok, for the motherboard what about the Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE  ?

[Hinjima]

Just now, Taku05 said:

i got hired at an anime studio so i honestly dk i just thought more cause are better ok, for the motherboard what about the Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE  ?

Gotcha!  Its not always, more cores more better..  The 9900x is a solid option of course. 

The Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE is a solid motherboard and the price is quite fair for what it is.  It will easily handle a 9800X3D or a 9900x.

[Taku05]

3 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Gotcha!  Its not always, more cores more better..  The 9900x is a solid option of course. 

The Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE is a solid motherboard and the price is quite fair for what it is.  It will easily handle a 9800X3D or a 9900x.

ok thank you , whats your opinion on the peripherals? n about memory so even if the board say it supports more than 6000mhz for memory it will give me problems?

 

[Taku05]

15 minutes ago, Imakuni said:

Well yes, there are indeed some mistakes:

1. Swap the motherboard for a normal one. "Project Zero" is much more expensive and has much worse compatibility.
2. Go with a 6000mhz CL30 ram kit. Do not take faster than that, compatibility is shaky and not worth the hassle for a new builder.
3. Get an Nvidia GPU. It's unfortunate, but if you're doing non-gaming stuff, you really want access to CUDA in case an app of yours needs it.

so 5070ti?

 

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, Taku05 said:

ok thank you , whats your opinion on the peripherals? n about memory so even if the board say it supports more than 6000mhz for memory it will give me problems?

 

The sweetspot as mentioned is 6000Mhz CL30 as this is what we know will 99.99% of the time work at the rated speed.

Going above this can cause compatability issues or stability issues.  There is little to no benefits in going above this RAM speed.

The board will support faster RAM but getting it to run stable is difficult and you have to manually tweak settings to get it to run in 1:1 with the CPU's infinity fabric etc etc.

If you go above 6000Mhz you are likely to run into some problems, the higher you go the more potential problems.

[Taku05]

10 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Gotcha!  Its not always, more cores more better..  The 9900x is a solid option of course. 

The Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE is a solid motherboard and the price is quite fair for what it is.  It will easily handle a 9800X3D or a 9900x.

iv also heard that intel is better for productivity , i had to decide between the 14900k n the 9900x but iv heard intel cpus often shit the bed

[Taku05]

3 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The sweetspot as mentioned is 6000Mhz CL30 as this is what we know will 99.99% of the time work at the rated speed.

Going above this can cause compatability issues or stability issues.  There is little to no benefits in going above this RAM speed.

The board will support faster RAM but getting it to run stable is difficult and you have to manually tweak settings to get it to run in 1:1 with the CPU's infinity fabric etc etc.

If you go above 6000Mhz you are likely to run into some problems, the higher you go the more potential problems.

ok thank you , is the gpu ok or is 5070 ti better for me?

[Hinjima]

Just now, Taku05 said:

iv also heard that intel is better for productivity , i had to decide between the 14900k n the 9900x but iv heard intel cpus often shit the bed

The 9900x is a strong performer and definitely a CPU I recommend.

Intel 13th and 14th gen, especially higher end models like a 14900k has its issues with degredation.  They say that a BIOS update will fix this problems but I am not entirely convinced.

A 14900k is also a lot harder to keep cool than a 9900x.

[Hinjima]

Just now, Taku05 said:

ok thank you , is the gpu ok or is 5070 ti better for me?

Since I dont know what programs you will use, I actually can't really answer this question.

The 5070 Ti IS sliiiiiightly faster in gaming performance and quite a bit faster in games with RayTracing.  I personally also like DLSS over FSR.

 

If you can afford a 5070 Ti, I would say its a solid option for sure.

[Taku05]

2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

The 9900x is a strong performer and definitely a CPU I recommend.

Intel 13th and 14th gen, especially higher end models like a 14900k has its issues with degredation.  They say that a BIOS update will fix this problems but I am not entirely convinced.

A 14900k is also a lot harder to keep cool than a 9900x.

ok thank you

 

[Taku05]

Just now, Hinjima said:

Since I dont know what programs you will use, I actually can't really answer this question.

The 5070 Ti IS sliiiiiightly faster in gaming performance and quite a bit faster in games with RayTracing.  I personally also like DLSS over FSR.

 

If you can afford a 5070 Ti, I would say its a solid option for sure.

thank you you were much help , n toon boom hermony is the program ill be using

 

[Taku05]

Just now, Taku05 said:

thank you you were much help , n toon boom hermony is the program ill be using

 

and adobe animate

 

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, Taku05 said:

thank you you were much help , n toon boom hermony is the program ill be using

 

 

1 minute ago, Taku05 said:

and adobe animate

 

For both programs AMD and Nvidia will work well but from what I see is that Nvidia is the one that has better driver support, optimization and are more tested with the programs over AMD GPU's.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, Taku05 said:

thank you you were much help , 

 

Oh, and no problem at all  

I am glad to be able to help.

[Taku05]

1 minute ago, Hinjima said:

 

For both programs AMD and Nvidia will work well but from what I see is that Nvidia is the one that has better driver support, optimization and are more tested with the programs over AMD GPU's.

ok thank you , iv decided to go with the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5070 Ti EAGLE OC ICE n the G skill F5 for the ram it runs at 6000mhz

[Taku05]

3 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Oh, and no problem at all  

I am glad to be able to help.

any opinion on the perpherals ? but ye thanks hopefully i dont bend a cpu pin or something , coming from an xbx series S its a big upgrade for me

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, Taku05 said:

ok thank you , iv decided to go with the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5070 Ti EAGLE OC ICE n the G skill F5 for the ram it runs at 6000mhz

That is a decent model of the 5070 Ti, be aware that the ''Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5070 Ti EAGLE OC ICE'' is a SFF ( Small Form Factor ) GPU so its a bit smaller than your average GPU and this can affect cooling and noise levels.

The GPU will still perform identical to other 5070 Ti's but it might be a bit louder than beefier cards like the Gigabyte RTX 5070 Ti AERO for example.

 

The RAM is good