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Like the title says this is my first PC build. I'm not really a member of the PCMR, I'm just "putting my toes in the water", so the plan is very subdued. I'm mostly looking for advice on optimizing the parts compatibility and value. And help avoiding avoiding any pitfalls.

 

Budget (including currency): Cheap as possible, from the planning I've done I think 800$ish (CAD) should be enough.

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming, mostly strategy/4x type games. 

Other details Like I said I'm new to this. I'm largely building the PC for the experience of building a PC. My current "rig" is a 5ish year old MSI stealth laptop; i7 (8th gen?), GTX 1060. I'm hoping the built PC is better than that but again it's more about the build than performance. No peripherals needed. The monitor isn't included in the budget. It'll probably be what ever medium sized, mid performance, goes on sale at Costco, nothing better than 1080p.

 

Parts list below. Made on PC part picker, prices from PC part picker (Canada)

 

CPU: i3 14100f 3.5 ghz w/included cooling. 109.99$ I chose this because it's similar in price to 12th and 13th gen, and I'm hoping newer gen is more efficient and more future proof also it comes with a CPU cooler so I don't have to buy one.

 

MoBo: Asus PRO H610M-CT D4-CSM MicroATX LGA 1700. 113.74$ Basically the cheapest I could find. I'm not gonna run a lot/ any unnecessary accessories.

 

Memory: Crucial CT2K8G4DFRA32A (2 X 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22. 41.58$ 2 X 8 GB packs are only a few dollars more than 2 X 4 GB packs. It has better performance than other DDR4 sticks in the same price range.

 

Storage: Crucial CT1000E100SSD8 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME. 80.41$ It's cheap, it's 1 TB, it's NVME.

 

GPU: Zotac gaming Low Profile GeForce RTX 3050 6GB 259.99 Had a hard time knowing what's best, chose this cause it's cheap, similar performance to other gpus in the price range but figures it's more future proof than 10/16 series.

 

Case: Montech Air 100 ARGB MicroATX mid tower 59.99$ cheapest I could find that came with fans, which I wanted and it another cost savings.

 

PSU: Thermaltake Smart 600w 64.90$ didn't really know what a good choice was, this was cheap with headroom.

 

Thanks a lot for any help!

 

i5 14400f, MSI PRO B760M-P, 2x8GB 3733Mt/s CL19, 3060ti, gigabyte P650G(US)

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8 minutes ago, Winnipegger said:

Budget (including currency): Cheap as possible, from the planning I've done I think 800$ish (CAD) should be enough.

I think this is a scrapyard wars budget and not a budget where you should be buying new components.

 

I mean this would be a bit better in terms of value for money:

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CPU: Intel Core i3-14100F 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($109.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Asus PRO H610M-CT D4-CSM Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($113.74 @ shopRBC) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($39.98 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Kingston NV3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.95 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Intel Limited Edition Arc B580 12 GB Video Card  ($358.98 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: Azza Fighter ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX650M (2021) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Total: $862.62

 

but you'd get way better on the used market.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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Yeah ive considered the used market but that and will continue to look into it. But im nervous about getting ripped off or forgetting to consider something and wasting money. 

 

I understand most of the build you posted but why did you choose that power supply?

i5 14400f, MSI PRO B760M-P, 2x8GB 3733Mt/s CL19, 3060ti, gigabyte P650G(US)

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53 minutes ago, Winnipegger said:

Like the title says this is my first PC build. I'm not really a member of the PCMR, I'm just "putting my toes in the water", so the plan is very subdued. I'm mostly looking for advice on optimizing the parts compatibility and value. And help avoiding avoiding any pitfalls.

 

Budget (including currency): Cheap as possible, from the planning I've done I think 800$ish (CAD) should be enough.

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming, mostly strategy/4x type games. 

Other details Like I said I'm new to this. I'm largely building the PC for the experience of building a PC. My current "rig" is a 5ish year old MSI stealth laptop; i7 (8th gen?), GTX 1060. I'm hoping the built PC is better than that but again it's more about the build than performance. No peripherals needed. The monitor isn't included in the budget. It'll probably be what ever medium sized, mid performance, goes on sale at Costco, nothing better than 1080p.

 

Parts list below. Made on PC part picker, prices from PC part picker (Canada)

 

CPU: i3 14100f 3.5 ghz w/included cooling. 109.99$ I chose this because it's similar in price to 12th and 13th gen, and I'm hoping newer gen is more efficient and more future proof also it comes with a CPU cooler so I don't have to buy one.

 

MoBo: Asus PRO H610M-CT D4-CSM MicroATX LGA 1700. 113.74$ Basically the cheapest I could find. I'm not gonna run a lot/ any unnecessary accessories.

 

Memory: Crucial CT2K8G4DFRA32A (2 X 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22. 41.58$ 2 X 8 GB packs are only a few dollars more than 2 X 4 GB packs. It has better performance than other DDR4 sticks in the same price range.

 

Storage: Crucial CT1000E100SSD8 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME. 80.41$ It's cheap, it's 1 TB, it's NVME.

 

GPU: Zotac gaming Low Profile GeForce RTX 3050 6GB 259.99 Had a hard time knowing what's best, chose this cause it's cheap, similar performance to other gpus in the price range but figures it's more future proof than 10/16 series.

 

Case: Montech Air 100 ARGB MicroATX mid tower 59.99$ cheapest I could find that came with fans, which I wanted and it another cost savings.

 

PSU: Thermaltake Smart 600w 64.90$ didn't really know what a good choice was, this was cheap with headroom.

 

Thanks a lot for any help!

 

Looks good to me! But at $250, you could get an RTX 3050 8GB.

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6 minutes ago, Winnipegger said:

Yeah ive considered the used market but that and will continue to look into it. But im nervous about getting ripped off or forgetting to consider something and wasting money.

Well we are always happy to look at deals for you on here to help you avoid being ripped off. Past that, just make sure you use sites with good buyer protection.

 

6 minutes ago, Winnipegger said:

I understand most of the build you posted but why did you choose that power supply?

  • 5 year warrenty (instead of 3)
  • semi modular (instead of fixed)
  • 650W (instead of 600W)

All these things mean the system would be more upgradable

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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Thought I should give a build update, its done. I took Dr. Will0hlep advice and went used (where I could find) which definitely helped better the build, so thank you.

Here's the final build list:

CPU: Intel Core i5-14400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (BX8071514400F) - PCPartPicker new 181.97$

MOBO: MSI PRO B760M-P DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (PRO B760M-P DDR4) - PCPartPicker prime deal days 113.99$

RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3733 CL19 Memory (HX437C19FB3AK2/16) - PCPartPicker used 20$

SSD: Silicon Power UD90 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (SP01KGBP44UD9005) - PCPartPicker prime deal days 72.49$

GPU: Gigabyte GAMING OC D6X GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Video Card (GV-N306TXGAMING OC-8GD) - PCPartPicker used 260$

Case: SAMA SV01 ATX Mid Tower Case (SV-01 Black) - PCPartPicker new 104.99

PSU: Gigabyte P650G 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (GP-P650G) - PCPartPicker used 60$

 

A few questions though. I ran cinebench got a score of ~8500 for the GPU and ~800 for the CPU do those scores sound right, like all settings are set properly?

 

Next the case came with ARGB fans and a hub that has a 3 pin ARBG. My MOBO doesn't have a corresponding header. Is there any way to get the ARGB functionality? Or at least be able to adjust RGB with software? Currently all I can do is use the button on the case. I cant even turn it off, unless I unplug it I guess.

 

Lastly the RAM is RGB. I've been using openRGB to control everything other than my case fans. When I run openRGB as admin I can adjust the RAM RGB but every time I turn off the PC it reverts to rainbow barf, is there a way to have the openRGB settings hold for the RAM, they do for everything else?

i5 14400f, MSI PRO B760M-P, 2x8GB 3733Mt/s CL19, 3060ti, gigabyte P650G(US)

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16 minutes ago, Winnipegger said:

Next the case came with ARGB fans and a hub that has a 3 pin ARBG. My MOBO doesn't have a corresponding header. Is there any way to get the ARGB functionality? Or at least be able to adjust RGB with software? Currently all I can do is use the button on the case. I cant even turn it off, unless I unplug it I guess.

You'll need a USB ARGB hub. I believe this would be an example: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Controller-3-Pin-Ports/dp/B07Z7WLWD5?th=1

 

20 minutes ago, Winnipegger said:

A few questions though. I ran cinebench got a score of ~8500 for the GPU and ~800 for the CPU do those scores sound right, like all settings are set properly?

Which cinebench?

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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Then yes those scores are pretty typical.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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