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3 minutes ago, forss said:

I've heard that going for an AIO is not the best idea for a first build, is that true? If I were to get one, would it be a good idea? Is it unnessecary with this build? If it is, is it still ok to go with one just for the look if I have the money for it? Not sure how I like how an air cooler looks.

 

https://newegg.io/5a18e9d

It adds a level of complexity, is all.  Nothing too complicated though.  You install it either on top or on front, on the places the fans go.  It's really easy, but an air cooler is even easier.

 

Some people just don't like the idea of a liquid in their PC.  I used air cooling for 25 years or so, water for about 10 almost.  I started with water on my 8700K machine I build back when.

 

In your build it can be useful if you want to let the CPU run a little bit more.  The cooler you can make a chip, the faster it can run.  AMD chips will try to run to 85/90c, so if you can give it more cooling, it can run a higher clock frequency at that same heat level.  

 

Now will this be amazingly noticeable?  No.  But it'll give you a few more frames.  Then again, if you can use that money for a 9700X instead of a 9600X, then I would do that.

 

Always go for the biggest bang for buck spent.  Once you have the best stuff you can reasonably get, then you try to wring the most out of it, IMO.

 

For you, stick with a cheaper air cooler and the cheaper CPU.  When you get a 9800X3D, then look at 360mm AIO CPU Coolers.

 

 

Budget (including currency): $1,000 USD

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 100+ FPS at 1080p or 1440p Gaming, Blender, Coding

 

- This will be my first ever build, trying to get everything right the first time

- I'm back for a second time after receiving so many great suggestions on my initial build

- I revised the list after some suggestions about the motherboard, and CPU air cooler

- There is no GPU listed as I am purchasing a USED 3060 Ti from a friend

- Any and all suggestions are welcome, I am not set on anything, but I do want to stay AMD (AM5)

 

Here is the revised list: 

 
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25 minutes ago, forss said:

Budget (including currency): $1,000 USD

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 100+ FPS at 1080p or 1440p Gaming, Blender, Coding

 

- This will be my first ever build, trying to get everything right the first time

- I'm back for a second time after receiving so many great suggestions on my initial build

- I revised the list after some suggestions about the motherboard, and CPU air cooler

- There is no GPU listed as I am purchasing a USED 3060 Ti from a friend

- Any and all suggestions are welcome, I am not set on anything, but I do want to stay AMD (AM5)

You need to post your revised list.  Tho I am unsure why you need a new thread, since we were making progress in the other.  Just had to ask us to fill out the rest *shrug*.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Sage: Ryzen 7800X3D - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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6 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You need to post your revised list.  Tho I am unsure why you need a new thread, since we were making progress in the other.  Just had to ask us to fill out the rest *shrug*.

Oh mb, I kinda joined like a day ago, so I am not 100% sure how forums work entirely, thanks for the help though! I just attached the list. I also didn't want to be annoying aobut it but it seems like most people are pretty friendly about giving tips and help.

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8 hours ago, forss said:

Oh mb, I kinda joined like a day ago, so I am not 100% sure how forums work entirely, thanks for the help though! I just attached the list. I also didn't want to be annoying aobut it but it seems like most people are pretty friendly about giving tips and help.

Mostly it continues the conversation, so people can discuss what's come before. 

 

I like your list for the most part, but I'd get a cheaper SSD and cooler.

 

Samsung tax is real, there are just as good options for cheaper.

 

That cooler should be $39.99 max, not sure why it's now $60.   Unless tariffs are hitting that hard, but ten they'd hit the other parts like that too.

 

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Sage: Ryzen 7800X3D - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Mostly it continues the conversation, so people can discuss what's come before. 

 

I like your list for the most part, but I'd get a cheaper SSD and cooler.

 

Samsung tax is real, there are just as good options for cheaper.

 

That cooler should be $39.99 max, not sure why it's now $60.   Unless tariffs are hitting that hard, but ten they'd hit the other parts like that too.

 

I plan to upgrade in a year or two, and I want this build to be nice to look at so I wanted the RGB

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I am fairly new to this, so I am pretty unfamiliar with good or bad prices when it comes to components, is this SSD something along the lines of what you would recommend?

 

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-2tb-t-force-g50-nvme-1-4/p/N82E16820985144?Item=N82E16820985144

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13 minutes ago, forss said:

I am fairly new to this, so I am pretty unfamiliar with good or bad prices when it comes to components, is this SSD something along the lines of what you would recommend?

 

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-2tb-t-force-g50-nvme-1-4/p/N82E16820985144?Item=N82E16820985144

Yes, it'll perform exactly as the Samsung.  For gaming and general use. 

 

Understood about the RGB cooler.

 

Looks great then.  Something i'd buy.   You can tweak for minimal price savings, unless someone has other info.

 

What do you plan on upgrading to?

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Sage: Ryzen 7800X3D - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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55 minutes ago, forss said:

Not exactly sure, I wanted to start out small. I would most likely upgrade the CPU and GPU at the same time or close to each other, maybe a 5060 Ti and an R7 7800 X3D, but what would you recommend?

There is no sense in going from 9600X to 7800X3D.  Maybe 9800X3D.  But the 9600X is excellent, so I wouldn't bother upgrading it at all.

 

The GPU, yes.  The 3060Ti is okay.   Look for a 5070 actually in a year or so, that'll be a much better bump.

 

All depends on if you're staying at 1080p or going 1440p.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Sage: Ryzen 7800X3D - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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I've heard that going for an AIO is not the best idea for a first build, is that true? If I were to get one, would it be a good idea? Is it unnessecary with this build? If it is, is it still ok to go with one just for the look if I have the money for it? Not sure how I like how an air cooler looks.

 

https://newegg.io/5a18e9d

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3 minutes ago, forss said:

I've heard that going for an AIO is not the best idea for a first build, is that true? If I were to get one, would it be a good idea? Is it unnessecary with this build? If it is, is it still ok to go with one just for the look if I have the money for it? Not sure how I like how an air cooler looks.

 

https://newegg.io/5a18e9d

It adds a level of complexity, is all.  Nothing too complicated though.  You install it either on top or on front, on the places the fans go.  It's really easy, but an air cooler is even easier.

 

Some people just don't like the idea of a liquid in their PC.  I used air cooling for 25 years or so, water for about 10 almost.  I started with water on my 8700K machine I build back when.

 

In your build it can be useful if you want to let the CPU run a little bit more.  The cooler you can make a chip, the faster it can run.  AMD chips will try to run to 85/90c, so if you can give it more cooling, it can run a higher clock frequency at that same heat level.  

 

Now will this be amazingly noticeable?  No.  But it'll give you a few more frames.  Then again, if you can use that money for a 9700X instead of a 9600X, then I would do that.

 

Always go for the biggest bang for buck spent.  Once you have the best stuff you can reasonably get, then you try to wring the most out of it, IMO.

 

For you, stick with a cheaper air cooler and the cheaper CPU.  When you get a 9800X3D, then look at 360mm AIO CPU Coolers.

 

 

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Sage: Ryzen 7800X3D - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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