New build value $1297

[RedEye21]

Budget (including currency): $1334 build ended up being $1304
Country: Iraq

Games, programs, or workloads that it will be used for: Chrome 20+ tabs, Photoshop with lots of layers and images, Aftereffects and Premiere, light gaming (mostly a game called Nikke,) and future AI training (nothing currently.) 

Details : 

Components

CPU:

Ryzen 9 9900X

$433

Motherboard:

ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WiFi

$274

RAM:

XPG Lancer Blade RGB DDR5 64GB 6000Mhz CL30 (White)

$200

PSU:

XPG CORE REACTOR II VE 850W

$103

AIO Cooler:

DeepCool LS720 SE Digital (White)

$93

Case:

NZXT H9 Flow (White)

$167

Thermal Paste:

Arctic MX-6

4g

$10

Powestrip: Huntkey Charge station F20
$13
 

Shipping

$10

 

GPU: TBD

Storage (already owned):  NVMe Samsung Evo 500GB old gen 3 (windows), WD Blue 4TB (internal), Seagate 5TB USB 3.0

Overall: $1304 I know they add up to 1303, but I was rounding up and down after converting. The budget was $1334

I'm not really looking to change anything as parts are scarce here. Just asking what you think of the Value per dollar here for my use cases.
I am gonna buy a GPU just waiting for prices to calm down, I own a laptop (Acer Nitro AN515-55) with 1660ti as a backup.
Planning on a 5070ti (Found for $1034) or 5080 (Found for $1400) for the AI boost, I know the AI stuff loves VRAM but 5090s are going for $3000 here and I don't think that price is going down and even if it did that's still way beyond my sane budget level lol

Anyway hoping for some feedback on the value, I know that's an extremely subjective thing, but just a simple performance per $ sort of thing.
Personally, the only thing I'd say I overspent on is that case (We have dirt cheap ones the same size and everything for $60), but I wanted a sturdy one that could last a good 10 years.  
 

 

[minecraftyeet1]

4 minutes ago, RedEye21 said:

Budget (including currency): $1334 build ended up being $1297
Country: Iraq

Games, programs, or workloads that it will be used for: Chrome 20+ tabs, Photoshop with lots of layers and images, Aftereffects and Premiere, light gaming (mostly a game called Nikke,) and future AI training (nothing currently.) 

Details : 

Components

CPU:

Ryzen 9 9900X

$433

Motherboard:

ASUS PRIME X870-P WiFi

$267

RAM:

XPG Lancer Blade RGB DDR5 64GB (White)

$200

PSU:

XPG CORE REACTOR II VE 850W

$103

AIO Cooler:

DeepCool LS720 SE Digital (White)

$93

Case:

NZXT H9 Flow (White)

$167

Thermal Paste:

Arctic MX-6

4g

$10

Powestrip: Huntkey Charge station F20
$13
 

Shipping

$10

 

GPU: TBD

Storage (already owned):  NVMe Samsung Evo 500GB old gen 3 (windows), WD Blue 4TB (internal), Seagate 5TB USB 3.0

Overall: $1297 I know they add up to 1296, but I was rounding up and down after converting. The budget was $1334

I'm not really looking to change anything as parts are scarce here. Just asking what you think of the Value per dollar here for my use cases.
I am gonna buy a GPU just waiting for prices to calm down, I own a laptop (Acer Nitro AN515-55) with 1660ti as a backup.
Planning on a 5070ti (Found for $1034) or 5080 (Found for $1400) for the AI boost, I know the AI stuff loves VRAM but 5090s are going for $3000 here and I don't think that price is going down and even if it did that's still way beyond my sane budget level lol

Anyway hoping for some feedback on the value, I know that's an extremely subjective thing, but just a simple performance per $ sort of thing.
Personally, the only thing I'd say I overspent on is that case (We have dirt cheap ones the same size and everything for $60), but I wanted a sturdy one that could last a good 10 years.  
 

 

I feel like i've seen this thread before, anyway.

 

Replace motherboard with B650E, it's mid price to performance B650E is way better

 

and definitely go with a cheaper cases. don't get attached to the case.  literally any case works, if you need a "future proofing" case it doesn't exist

[RedEye21]

8 minutes ago, minecraftyeet1 said:

I feel like i've seen this thread before, anyway.

 

Replace motherboard with B650E, it's mid price to performance B650E is way better

 

and definitely go with a cheaper cases. don't get attached to the case.  literally any case works, if you need a "future proofing" case it doesn't exist

This is my first post since 2020...

I already said parts are scarce here, and I didn't want to replace anything. Please read the post fully next time. 

[venomtail]

17 minutes ago, minecraftyeet1 said:

Replace motherboard with B650E, it's mid price to performance B650E is way better

What? Just get a boring B850 then cause the whole point of B650E was both storage and PCIE to be Gen 5 which comes included without a premium for a B850, Gen 5 that is yet to see any real world benefit, just exists for potential future

 

21 minutes ago, RedEye21 said:

Motherboard:

ASUS PRIME X870-P WiFi

$267

I like MSI's X870 offerings more, often cheaper but of course not sure if cheaper in Iraq

 

21 minutes ago, RedEye21 said:

RAM:

XPG Lancer Blade RGB DDR5 64GB (White)

$200

For Ryzen speed and latency is very important, you've not listed the specs.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

21 minutes ago, RedEye21 said:

Motherboard:

ASUS PRIME X870-P WiFi

$267

this is the only bad value thing here and considering you want to do ai id look for an asrock board as alot of their boards have pcie x4 from the cpu on the lower pcie x16 slot instead of an x4 from the chipset id you wanna run dual gpu otherwise everything else looks ok

[RedEye21]

48 minutes ago, venomtail said:

For Ryzen speed and latency is very important, you've not listed the specs.

Whoops sorry, I edited the post it's 6000MHz at CL30

 

45 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

this is the only bad value thing here and considering you want to do ai id look for an asrock board as alot of their boards have pcie x4 from the cpu on the lower pcie x16 slot instead of an x4 from the chipset id you wanna run dual gpu otherwise everything else looks ok

I highly doubt I'd buy a second GPU so I don't see this as an issue. The AI stuff isn't really my top consideration it's just something I dabble in from time to time. 

[SansVarnic]

-= Cleaned =-

Keep it civil.

[SorryBella]

7 minutes ago, minecraftyeet1 said:

my profile is prob older than you

Id rather have someone knowledgeable thats new here than a clueless "veteran". Joined date doesnt matter to me.

[KidKid]

1 hour ago, RedEye21 said:

Budget (including currency): $1334 build ended up being $1297
Country: Iraq

Games, programs, or workloads that it will be used for: Chrome 20+ tabs, Photoshop with lots of layers and images, Aftereffects and Premiere, light gaming (mostly a game called Nikke,) and future AI training (nothing currently.) 

Details : 

Components

CPU:

Ryzen 9 9900X

$433

Motherboard:

ASUS PRIME X870-P WiFi

$267

RAM:

XPG Lancer Blade RGB DDR5 64GB 6000Mhz CL30 (White)

$200

PSU:

XPG CORE REACTOR II VE 850W

$103

AIO Cooler:

DeepCool LS720 SE Digital (White)

$93

Case:

NZXT H9 Flow (White)

$167

Thermal Paste:

Arctic MX-6

4g

$10

Powestrip: Huntkey Charge station F20
$13
 

Shipping

$10

 

GPU: TBD

Storage (already owned):  NVMe Samsung Evo 500GB old gen 3 (windows), WD Blue 4TB (internal), Seagate 5TB USB 3.0

Overall: $1297 I know they add up to 1296, but I was rounding up and down after converting. The budget was $1334

I'm not really looking to change anything as parts are scarce here. Just asking what you think of the Value per dollar here for my use cases.
I am gonna buy a GPU just waiting for prices to calm down, I own a laptop (Acer Nitro AN515-55) with 1660ti as a backup.
Planning on a 5070ti (Found for $1034) or 5080 (Found for $1400) for the AI boost, I know the AI stuff loves VRAM but 5090s are going for $3000 here and I don't think that price is going down and even if it did that's still way beyond my sane budget level lol

Anyway hoping for some feedback on the value, I know that's an extremely subjective thing, but just a simple performance per $ sort of thing.
Personally, the only thing I'd say I overspent on is that case (We have dirt cheap ones the same size and everything for $60), but I wanted a sturdy one that could last a good 10 years.  
 

 

Depends on the GPU if it's a good deal, but so far.

[RedEye21]

4 hours ago, KidKid said:

Depends on the GPU if it's a good deal, but so far.

Yeah, it's wild that these days GPUs are as much as the whole build! We don't really do MSRP here.  But man these prices were never a thing even back in the day, woof, have prices jumped, I remember buying the 970 (MSRP $329) for $400. That's probably overpriced for you but like I said we never had MSRP here.

Now the 5070ti is $1034...
 

To calculate the price increase percentage for both cases:

1. GTX 970:

   • MSRP: $329
   • Purchase price: $400
   • Increase: 400 - 329/329 x 100 = 21.58%

2. RTX 5070 Ti:

   • MSRP: $749
   • Local price: $1034
   • Increase: 1034 - 749/749 x 100 = 38.06%
      

So that's a 16.48% price hike.

on the other hand, if we take in Performance per $ 
 

GTX 970 (At 1080p)

60/400 = 0.15 FPS per dollar

RTX 5070 Ti (At 4K, Real Frames Only)

75/1034 = 0.0725 FPS per dollar

RTX 5070 Ti (At 4K, Fake Frames)

110/1034 = 0.106 FPS per dollar

 

GTX 970 (1080p, Real FPS assuming an average of 60): 0.15 FPS per $

RTX 5070 Ti (4K, Real FPS assuming an average of 75): 0.0725 FPS per $
RTX 5070 Ti (4K, Fake FPS assuming an average of 110): 0.106 FPS per $
 

Math might not be the best here but I think this shows just how GPUs are these days, based on my local prices. 

 

[KidKid]

2 hours ago, RedEye21 said:

Yeah, it's wild that these days GPUs are as much as the whole build! We don't really do MSRP here.  But man these prices were never a thing even back in the day, woof, have prices jumped, I remember buying the 970 (MSRP $329) for $400. That's probably overpriced for you but like I said we never had MSRP here.

Now the 5070ti is $1034...
 

To calculate the price increase percentage for both cases:

1. GTX 970:

   • MSRP: $329
   • Your purchase price: $400
   • Increase: 400 - 329/329 x 100 = 21.58%

2. RTX 5070 Ti:

   • MSRP: $749
   • Local price: $1034
   • Increase: 1034 - 749/749 x 100 = 38.06%
      

So that's a 16.48% price hike.

on the other hand, if we take in Performance per $ 
 

GTX 970 (At 1080p)

60/400 = 0.15 FPS per dollar

RTX 5070 Ti (At 4K, Real Frames Only)

75/1034 = 0.0725 FPS per dollar

RTX 5070 Ti (At 4K, Fake Frames)

110/1034 = 0.106 FPS per dollar

 

GTX 970 (1080p, Real FPS assuming an average of 60): 0.15 FPS per $

RTX 5070 Ti (4K, Real FPS assuming an average of 75): 0.0725 FPS per $
RTX 5070 Ti (4K, Fake FPS assuming an average of 110): 0.106 FPS per $
 

Math might not be the best here but I think this shows just how GPUs are these days, based on my local prices. 

 

New GPUs, 'specially the RTX 50 series, don't have much good value anymore. Instead of the RTX 5070ti, get an RX 9070 XT for $150 less! 

[RedEye21]

7 minutes ago, KidKid said:

New GPUs, 'specially the RTX 50 series, don't have much good value anymore. Instead of the RTX 5070ti, get an RX 9070 XT for $150 less! 

Nice joke 
Did you not read when I said we don't have MSRP and currently there's zero AMD stock so 
Even if there were cards my use case is listed in the OP, AMD is behind in anything that's not Gaming.

Both AMD and Nvidia had paper launches as far as I'm concerned.   

[KidKid]

40 minutes ago, RedEye21 said:

Nice joke 
Did you not read when I said we don't have MSRP and currently there's zero AMD stock so 
Even if there were cards my use case is listed in the OP, AMD is behind in anything that's not Gaming.

Both AMD and Nvidia had paper launches as far as I'm concerned.   

Sorry! I forgot that you do mostly other stuff, not gaming often!  Right, they both had launch problems. But AMD at least did sell 5000+ units in just the first 10 minutes of launch!

[RedEye21]

19 minutes ago, KidKid said:

Sorry! I forgot that you do mostly other stuff, not gaming often!  Right, they both had launch problems. But AMD at least did sell 5000+ units in just the first 10 minutes of launch!

Well, US numbers don't really matter to me, I'm not in the US, I don't get US prices nor do I get US GPU stocks, so... 
The Nvidia stuff is here currently (with very low numbers of course.) AMD is yet to arrive here. 

My whole point with that math is to showcase the ridiculousness of GPUs Though at very least CUDA is king and so I'm stuck with Nvidia much as I hate them just like the rest of the world. 

[RedEye21]

Small update the motherboard arrived as an ASUS PRIME X870-P not ASUS PRIME X870-P WiFi.    
I got pissed and called the store and sent it back and looked around until I found an ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WiFi.

I lost Wi-Fi 7 and USB 4 but I gained better VRMs, and I couldn't find a PRIME with Wi-Fi anyways so I went with it, was $274 so who cares about a $7 jump.
6E is fast enough, my internet is only 250Mb. 
VRMs might help with the RAM timings overclock? Not sure.
USB 4 is 40Gbps vs 3.2 gen 2 that's 20Gbps but I don't really own anything that's 4 anyway so is that even an issue? I'm not doing any high data transfer.
I get better Audio though this might be just copium. 

I got everything yesterday but no board so can't build yet.  
Oh well, it should get here Sunday. 

   

[RedEye21]

Hey just wanted to share the system was built and is running great. (Hope that's okay.)

Ignore the OS, I'm on Windows 11 pro I have no idea why it shows up as 10.

temps were a solid 64-66c while running R23 multicore.

Better than a Threadripper 2990WX gotta love modern efficiency. 

There's a slight scratching noise in the radiator, it was in the pump at first but I tilted the case until it moved to the top. I guess AIOs just mean they won't live as long, well I do know the LS720 SE isn't the best but it seemed solid for the price, the bubbles might settle in a day or two (hopefully,) but, lesson learned just buy a solid one.

That was my first AIO build BTW, I haven't built a PC since 2020, overall I'm happy, I can use my Samsung Neo G7 in 4K HDR, browse with 30+ tabs now, photoshop is faster even with an iGPU and as for Nikke... okay I have to turn it down to 1080p to get 60 FPS but it's an iGPU not magic. 

Hopefully, the prices of 5080s settle a bit around summer, right now, here, they're selling for anywhere from $1400 to $1635. So yeah... I don't wanna pay that and I don't think anyone should even if I'm upgrading from a GTX 1660Ti.