First PC build

[kaineug]

Budget (including currency): 2000 Euro (including peripherals)

Country: Germany 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Marvel Rivals, GTA 5, Cyberpunk 2077 and some other games, and programming (I'm just starting to learn programming, interested in mobile development, AI, and maybe game development) 

Primary priorities: Performance for gaming with good aesthetics (white build) 

Current setup: This will be my first build

Other details: This is a modified PC Part Picker List, but I'm not sure if everything is compatible and if there are better choices available. I will be buying this PC in about 4 months, so are there any upcoming releases I should wait for instead?

 

PC: 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X (220) 

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE (40) 

Motherboard: Asus PRIME B650M-R Micro ATX AM5 (115) 

RAM: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (85) 

Storage: ADATA Legend 800 2 TB (100) 

GPU: Zotac Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER (650)

Case: Lian Li O11 VISION COMPACT ATX (130)

PSU: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W (120)

≈ 1500

 

Peripherals: 

Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" (230) 

Keyboard: Bridge75 (130) (because DE-ISO) 

Mice: Logitech MX Master 3s (80) (general use)

Mice: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED (40) (gaming)

WiFi: TP-Link Deco X20 x2 (100)

≈ 580

≈≈ 2080

 

I've chosen the Lian Li O11 VISION COMPACT ATX case, but I'm using a Micro ATX motherboard. Will this look awkward with the empty space? Are there better white case options that would match my build?

Is the Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ a good choice for my gaming needs? I plan to add a second monitor in the future. Is it true that there aren't good budget OLED monitors for gaming yet?

Are there any compatibility issues with my current parts selection? Is the 750W power supply sufficient for future upgrades?

Given that I'm buying in 4 months, should I wait for any specific upcoming hardware releases that might offer better value?

And in the future I will need to buy a new chair, do you have any recommendations there?

This is my first build, so any advice is appreciated! Thank you in advanced!

[podkall]

16 minutes ago, kaineug said:

I've chosen the Lian Li O11 VISION COMPACT ATX case, but I'm using a Micro ATX motherboard. Will this look awkward with the empty space?

Most likely + if you don't fill it with fans it'll look even more empty. Compact is bit better than non-compact.

 

Are you down for some other case recommendations?

 

17 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Is the Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ a good choice for my gaming needs?

I could probably find something slightly better.

 

18 minutes ago, kaineug said:

I plan to add a second monitor in the future. Is it true that there aren't good budget OLED monitors for gaming yet?

OLED are good, but you won't find anything "budget", cheapest is like ~500€, but OLED still has these downsides, that are just mitigated on newer models.

 

22 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Are there any compatibility issues with my current parts selection? Is the 750W power supply sufficient for future upgrades?

Small upgrades? Yes. Big upgrades? No.

 

22 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Given that I'm buying in 4 months, should I wait for any specific upcoming hardware releases that might offer better value?

4 months is long time, in 4 months RX 9070 XT might be out, prices can change and shift

 

 

The build could look like this, but in 4 months it could see half of the parts being different.

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/zQxQwY

[SorryBella]

3 hours ago, kaineug said:

Mice: Logitech MX Master 3s (80) (general use)

Mice: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED (40) (gaming)

Uhm, why? I graduated high school solely on a 305, you dont need to put MX master on top of it.

[kaineug]

10 hours ago, podkall said:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/zQxQwY

Thanks for the part list. There are some nice cheaper options that I would have never thought of.

 

10 hours ago, podkall said:

Are you down for some other case recommendations?

I like the one in your list. Should I add some coolers in the case? 

 

10 hours ago, podkall said:

OLED are good, but you won't find anything "budget", cheapest is like ~500€, but OLED still has these downsides, that are just mitigated on newer models

Good to know, I guess I will save some money and then buy a OLED one in the future.

10 hours ago, podkall said:

4 months is long time, in 4 months RX 9070 XT might be out, prices can change and shift

 

 

The build could look like this, but in 4 months it could see half of the parts being different.

Yeah I know, I just wanted to start with the planning a bit earlier to consider everything and make it good.

So should I maybe switch my GPU to the RX 9070 XT when I'll buy the parts? (For now I added the Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB (730), I guess this is better if I stick with this GPU, because of the 20 GB, right?)

Maybe a stupid question, but will there be a white version of the GPU when it will release (which isn't much more expensive)? Or should I just leave the parts like you recommended in black to make it easier and maybe cheaper?

[kaineug]

7 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Uhm, why? I graduated high school solely on a 305, you dont need to put MX master on top of it.

I think the MX master has better ergonomics for general use and the vertical scroll wheel could be very useful too. But if you say the 305 is enough then I'll remove the MX master.

[SorryBella]

1 hour ago, kaineug said:

I think the MX master has better ergonomics for general use and the vertical scroll wheel could be very useful too. But if you say the 305 is enough then I'll remove the MX master.

Honestly the best thing i would advise you on mouse ergonomic besides picking the right one is just outright buy the one that's best fitting for your hands and your overall scenario, not for specifics. We live in a modern time where the ergonomics is king, everything else is either already in parity, or a bonus. I recommend shopping mice in person though, and use ELOShapes as your rough estimate compared to mouse youre familiar with in person.

https://www.eloshapes.com/

[podkall]

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

I like the one in your list. Should I add some coolers in the case? 

Yeah, I used the case that you wanted, but I know lot more nice cases, some of them are cheaper and come with fans too.

 

Some of them shine if you're into that.

 

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

Good to know, I guess I will save some money and then buy a OLED one in the future.

Well, you don't have to go OLED route, it's the "best" monitor, but there's still upsides and downsides to it compared to IPS panel monitors.

 

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

Yeah I know, I just wanted to start with the planning a bit earlier to consider everything and make it good.

So should I maybe switch my GPU to the RX 9070 XT when I'll buy the parts? (For now I added the Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB (730), I guess this is better if I stick with this GPU, because of the 20 GB, right?)

That's pretty solid yeah, the 7900 XT isn't that bad of a card, the 20GB VRAM makes it very future proof, and appealing over 40 series, since the first 40 series card with 16GB VRAM is 4070 Ti Super.

 

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

Maybe a stupid question, but will there be a white version of the GPU when it will release (which isn't much more expensive)? Or should I just leave the parts like you recommended in black to make it easier and maybe cheaper?

well you can go white, but white can sometimes really inflate the price, especially the GPU, you can do white build with black/grey GPUs, those can work sometimes

 

 

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

I think the MX master has better ergonomics for general use and the vertical scroll wheel could be very useful too. But if you say the 305 is enough then I'll remove the MX master.

Yeah, just get a mouse that feels or looks like it'll feel good, just because a mouse is advertised ergonomic doesn't mean it's a good mouse for everyone that tries it.

 

Not saying ergonomic mouses are bad, just saying, if you have experience with mouses or have mouse, the ergonomic mouse it looks bit bigger than normal mouse, so you'd expect more mass, it also might be bit heavier.

 

Oh yeah: (https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/compare/logitech-mx-master-3s-vs-logitech-g305-lightspeed/33318/1637)

 

Instead of 2 mice, you could just get like really good gaming mouse.

 

Logitech PRO Wireless

Logitech G Pro

Razer DeathAdder V2 Pro

Razer DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed

 

Now I don't know your mouse grip or hand size, so I'll note there might be similar size, or different size between the mice.

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/compare/razer-deathadder-v2-pro-vs-logitech-g-pro-wireless/18405/1614

 

2 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Honestly the best thing i would advise you on mouse ergonomic besides picking the right one is just outright buy the one that's best fitting for your hands and your overall scenario, not for specifics. We live in a modern time where the ergonomics is king, everything else is either already in parity, or a bonus. I recommend shopping mice in person though, and use ELOShapes as your rough estimate compared to mouse youre familiar with in person.

https://www.eloshapes.com/

Did you try the website yourself?

[kaineug]

7 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Honestly the best thing i would advise you on mouse ergonomic besides picking the right one is just outright buy the one that's best fitting for your hands and your overall scenario, not for specifics. We live in a modern time where the ergonomics is king, everything else is either already in parity, or a bonus. I recommend shopping mice in person though, and use ELOShapes as your rough estimate compared to mouse youre familiar with in person.

https://www.eloshapes.com/

5 hours ago, podkall said:

Did you try the website yourself?

Thanks for the great website recommendation. 

I tried the it and found the Keychron M6. This one looks quite simular to the shape of the MX Master and is apperently good for gaming as well. Is this a valid option?

I will go to the tech store soon and try some mice in person, but I'm quite sure that a mouse like the MX Master is my preffered mouse shape. 

5 hours ago, podkall said:

Yeah, I used the case that you wanted, but I know lot more nice cases, some of them are cheaper and come with fans too.

Some other recommendations would be great, especially with included fans. In the case you recommended me I like the glass front. 

 

5 hours ago, podkall said:

 

Some of them shine if you're into that.

Cases that shine? I've never saw that and I can't even imagene how they look like. But I'm fine with just normal cases in white and with some glass. 

 

5 hours ago, podkall said:

well you can go white, but white can sometimes really inflate the price, especially the GPU, you can do white build with black/grey GPUs, those can work sometimes

 

Wow, this PC looks incredible! I guess this would be the best solution, with mixed compontents. 

Would the NZXT H6 Flow (White) work for me? 

Oh and do I need to consider if I buy a monitor arm for the monitor you recommendet? 

5 hours ago, podkall said:

Well, you don't have to go OLED route, it's the "best" monitor, but there's still upsides and downsides to it compared to IPS panel monitors.

Yeah, but actual blacks are very important to me, so I would consider even with the downsides of OLED to by an OLED monitor as my second one.

 

Do we already know with which NVIDIA card the RX 9070 XT will be comperable (I can't really classify the performance of AMD cards)? And with which is the Radeon RX 7900 XT comperable? 

And big thanks for your enormous help! 

[podkall]

41 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Thanks for the great website recommendation. 

I tried the it and found the Keychron M6. This one looks quite simular to the shape of the MX Master and is apperently good for gaming as well. Is this a valid option?

I will go to the tech store soon and try some mice in person, but I'm quite sure that a mouse like the MX Master is my preffered mouse shape. 

Yeah definitely try the mice in store,

 

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Cases that shine? I've never saw that and I can't even imagene how they look like. But I'm fine with just normal cases in white and with some glass. 

With RGB fans.

 

44 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Some other recommendations would be great, especially with included fans. In the case you recommended me I like the glass front. 

 

of course there's white versions with varying price of these:

Montech XR

Montech SKY TWO GX

Montech AIR 903 MAX

Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA

Corsair 3500X

Phanteks XT View

Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA

Montech KING 65 PRO

Phanteks Eclipse G400A

NZXT H6 Flow

Phanteks NV5 MKII

Montech KING 95

Lian Li O11 VISION COMPACT

 

1 hour ago, kaineug said:

Oh and do I need to consider if I buy a monitor arm for the monitor you recommendet? 

You're gonna arm mount the monitor?

 

1 hour ago, kaineug said:

Yeah, but actual blacks are very important to me, so I would consider even with the downsides of OLED to by an OLED monitor as my second one.

Are you sure? Have you even seen OLED?

 

1 hour ago, kaineug said:

Do we already know with which NVIDIA card the RX 9070 XT will be comperable (I can't really classify the performance of AMD cards)? And with which is the Radeon RX 7900 XT comperable? 

And big thanks for your enormous help! 

9070 XT should be same or faster than 7900 GRE

[uhlooft]

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Wow, this PC looks incredible! I guess this would be the best solution, with mixed compontents. 

Would the NZXT H6 Flow (White) work for me? 

Oh and do I need to consider if I buy a monitor arm for the monitor you recommendet? 

Thank you very much!

It's a lovely case, my 7900xtx is a massive card and has no space issues even with the vertical mount offsets, and when it was mounted horizontally also no issue. My roomies 4070Ti-Super is maybe a bit smaller than my card length wise so I think the H6 Flow is big enough for just about anything. 

I run two different arms from North Bayou and have had no issues with them, they have cable management channels and are solid enough to handle my 34" ultrawides, so they are an easy recommendation from me. I also kitted my roomies out with their arms as well for slightly different multi monitor setups that are using 27" and 24" monitors, probably the only thing I'd say about them is be careful how light of a monitor you use as the gas spring is really strong and made to support heavier monitors properly.

 

 

On 2/28/2025 at 2:51 PM, kaineug said:

Mice: Logitech MX Master 3s (80) (general use)

Mice: Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED (40) (gaming)

Rather than having two mice that accomplish different goals, why not just get one that does both things. 
The G502 Plus is fantastic, it's similar in ergonomics to the MXM3 but given that you intend on doing some higher speed gaming, the sensor on the 502P is even better than the 305. I had a 305 before I bought my GPro SL2 and it was lovely but the tracking can feel off with quick movements sometimes because the polling rate is not particularily great.

https://www.logitechg.com/en-ca/products/gaming-mice/g502-x-plus-wireless-lightforce.910-006160.html

[kaineug]

12 hours ago, podkall said:

 

I should've really watched the reviews before I considered buying it. 

12 hours ago, podkall said:

With RGB fans.

 

Oh, sorry, I was stupid. It would be cool, but not necessary. 

12 hours ago, podkall said:

Corsair 3500X

Phanteks XT View

NZXT H6 Flow

Lian Li O11 VISION COMPACT

I like these four the most, but the H6 Flow is my favorite. Do I need to look on a specific spec for the fans, when I would use that case? Oh and I guess there'll be the issue with ATX and mATX, right? Do I need to switch my motherboard for that? 

 

8 hours ago, KaiserDonovin said:

It's a lovely case, my 7900xtx is a massive card and has no space issues even with the vertical mount offsets, and when it was mounted horizontally also no issue. My roomies 4070Ti-Super is maybe a bit smaller than my card length wise so I think the H6 Flow is big enough for just about anything. 

Would I need as many fans in my case as you used for your case? I guess that would lift the price a lot. 

 

8 hours ago, KaiserDonovin said:

I run two different arms from North Bayou and have had no issues with them, they have cable management channels and are solid enough to handle my 34" ultrawides, so they are an easy recommendation from me. I also kitted my roomies out with their arms as well for slightly different multi monitor setups that are using 27" and 24" monitors, probably the only thing I'd say about them is be careful how light of a monitor you use as the gas spring is really strong and made to support heavier monitors properly.

Thanks for the recommendation. I have no idea on what I need to look, when buying arms. Which ones do you use? 

How are your MSI 34" MAG345CQR? Would you recommend them? 

And what chair are you using? 

9 hours ago, KaiserDonovin said:

Rather than having two mice that accomplish different goals, why not just get one that does both things. 
The G502 Plus is fantastic, it's similar in ergonomics to the MXM3 but given that you intend on doing some higher speed gaming, the sensor on the 502P is even better than the 305. I had a 305 before I bought my GPro SL2 and it was lovely but the tracking can feel off with quick movements sometimes because the polling rate is not particularily great.

This mouse looks very good, its just on the more expersive side. I'll see how much money I'll have left. If not I could still buy the Scyrox V8, it's not exactly what I'm looking for, but I could use it for both. 

12 hours ago, podkall said:

You're gonna arm mount the monitor?

 

Yes, but a bit later, when I'll buy the other monitor. 

 

12 hours ago, podkall said:

Are you sure? Have you even seen OLED?

Yes. 

[kaineug]

I guess that's for now the build.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BKtfVF

I'm still deciding between the two monitors and later I'll probaby switch the GPU to the RX 9070 XT when I'll be released. And then there'll be the Bridge 75 and the Deco X20. And the fans. 

Just to be sure I followed all your advices. 

[podkall]

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

I like these four the most, but the H6 Flow is my favorite. Do I need to look on a specific spec for the fans, when I would use that case? Oh and I guess there'll be the issue with ATX and mATX, right? Do I need to switch my motherboard for that? 

Not really.

 

Fans don't matter much, only which you buy, the size, because there's 140mm and 120mm, and way of connecting them.

 

4 hours ago, kaineug said:

I guess that's for now the build.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BKtfVF

Here's the build, with white tax:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mgqZWc

[kaineug]

3 hours ago, podkall said:

Here's the build, with white tax:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mgqZWc

Thank you so much. That's a surprisingly manageable tax. 

[podkall]

11 minutes ago, kaineug said:

Thank you so much. That's a surprisingly manageable tax. 

There are also white air coolers, but 240mm and some 360mm AIOs aren't that much more expensive.

 

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140

Thermalright Frozen Prism ARGB

Thermalright Frozen Notte ARGB

ARCTIC Freezer 36 A-RGB

Deepcool AG620 WH ARGB

Deepcool AK620

Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360L Core ARGB

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB

[kaineug]

3 hours ago, podkall said:

Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360L Core ARGB

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB

Thanks. I guess these two are almost the same? Except for the little RGB on the thing that cools the CPU (I have no idea what that thing is called)? 

 

Will the three included fans by the case be enough for the GPU? Or should I add some exhaust or intake fans? Or both? 

[podkall]

2 hours ago, kaineug said:

Thanks. I guess these two are almost the same? Except for the little RGB on the thing that cools the CPU (I have no idea what that thing is called)? 

 

Will the three included fans by the case be enough for the GPU? Or should I add some exhaust or intake fans? Or both? 

That depends,

 

also ARCTIC is slightly better, but probably doesn't matter which you choose, might be biased towards ARCTIC.

 

The included case fans? Sure, you could also get a case that includes RGB fans, or no fans and buy those separately. It would only make sense if you pay less for fanless case so that you don't spend more buying stuff separately.

 

The AIO will help with airflow too, Air Cooler would too, top mounted AIO is exhaust.

Air cooler grabs and pulls air through case.

 

3 fans on intake is generous and plenty, some cases come with just 2 at front, and that can be enough too in some builds.

[uhlooft]

23 hours ago, kaineug said:

Thanks. I guess these two are almost the same? Except for the little RGB on the thing that cools the CPU (I have no idea what that thing is called)? 

 

Will the three included fans by the case be enough for the GPU? Or should I add some exhaust or intake fans? Or both? 

My version of this PC: I included the fans you would want for the build as well as changed the Motherboard, SSD, and PSU. I found that when I had a 240mm radiator the fans had to go to a higher RPM than on my 360mm Radiator to keep the system cool so the sound was very noticably louder, so I included and inexpensive but good 360mm rad in my version.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/QddKnp

(ASRock boards are currently experiencing issues with a bad BIOS update potentially damaging CPUs right now at least for some 9000 series chips so I'm wary of them, you can call it an abundance of caution)

(link below for the PSU, I personally would trust SuperFlower more than ThermalTake due to the recent events of their PSUs sometimes spontaneously combusting)
https://www.caseking.de/super-flower-leadex-vii-xg-white-80-plus-gold-atx-3.0-pcie-5.0-850-watt/NESF-093.html
 

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Thanks for the recommendation. I have no idea on what I need to look, when buying arms. Which ones do you use? 

How are your MSI 34" MAG345CQR? Would you recommend them? 

And what chair are you using? 

Monitor Arms:

https://amzn.eu/d/fP4xppB
https://amzn.eu/d/aB9KVoD

I would definitely recommend these monitors, they are quite good, high refresh rate, good colour, and contrast, I have nothing to complain about with them beyond that getting used to such an extreme curve can take a while to get used to for some people.
Chair:
https://amzn.eu/d/btJAiCh

[kaineug]

13 hours ago, KaiserDonovin said:

(ASRock boards are currently experiencing issues with a bad BIOS update potentially damaging CPUs right now at least for some 9000 series chips so I'm wary of them, you can call it an abundance of caution)

(link below for the PSU, I personally would trust SuperFlower more than ThermalTake due to the recent events of their PSUs sometimes spontaneously combusting)

Oh, that's good to know. Thanks for the changes and your devices you use. 

 

21 hours ago, podkall said:

3 fans on intake is generous and plenty, some cases come with just 2 at front, and that can be enough too in some builds.

All right, thanks. 

[podkall]

1 minute ago, kaineug said:

All right, thanks. 

more fans just for aesthetics most likely, you'll have 3 on AIO anyway if you go for 360mm AIO