4090 freezing windows

[Pawer8]

I just got a refurbished 4090 strix oc

 

I installed it yesterday. Everything seemed fine it boot up just fine but then windows started being super laggy. I did a driver update (haven't done ddu yet) and installed gpuz. I noticed the card was running pcie gen 2 x16 so I thought that was the issue. I also noticed a rather high GPU usage just standing on the desktop. And the backplate got rather warm

 

Changed the pcie from auto to gen 4 in bios and booted up. This time it would just freeze a couple seconds after logging in. The spinning dots on the windows loading screen and lock screen where laggy if that's important.

 

After than I changed pcie back to auto but it didn't revert to the previous behaviour.

 

Got a couple blue screens but couldn't see them cos the screen was black but the pc would boot up in recovery.

 

I booted into safe mode and it was fine. So I could use ddu from safe mode if that could fix it.

 

After that I put back my 2080s and confirmed the pc worked fine.

 

I have a couple things to try and I also have a new PSU on the way cos I'm using a 850w PSU and Asus recommends 1000w

 

What things can I test? Is this a faulty GPU or something that can be fixed with settings?

 

Current specs :

 

W10

MSI B650 tomahawk

7800x3d

Corsair vengeance 2x16gb 6000mhz cl30

Seasonic prime gx-850

Using 3 m.2 ssd on the board and 1 on the lower pcie slot on a card. Also 2 sata drives

 

 

Currently these are the steps I want to try

 

1)using the 2080 uninstall the programs that start on startup

2)use ddu and resintall drivers

3)change pcie lanes to 8x (seen on Reddit) and disable pcie management in bios (seen on multiple forums)

4)if I can get it to work a bit change Nvidia settings to prefer max (seen on multiple forums)

5)try a more powerful PSU

6)remove all storage but the boot drive

7)try pcie gen 3

 

 

Anything else to try?

 

Any help is greatly appreciated. Return deadline is in a couple weeks

 

EDIT: the card works using pcie 3.0. Still trying to make it work with 4.0

[venomtail]

Always DDU first, then try everything else. Also, fresh 4090, 5080 and 5090 drivers are bricking up systems for everyone right now.

 

• Try an older driver.

 

NVIDIA really forcing early adopters to be beta testers.

[Pawer8]

16 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Always DDU first, then try everything else. Also, fresh 4090, 5080 and 5090 drivers are bricking up systems for everyone right now.

 

• Try an older driver.

 

NVIDIA really forcing early adopters to be beta testers.

Thanks.

 

Do you know the latest working driver?

[OhioYJ]

1 minute ago, Pawer8 said:

Do you know the latest working driver?

I'm using the latest drivers with my 4090, no issues.

[Blasty Blosty]

9 minutes ago, Pawer8 said:

Thanks.

 

Do you know the latest working driver?

I would roll back like 2-3 versions

[Pawer8]

I just saw a bsod. It said DTC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION

[Pawer8]

5 hours ago, venomtail said:

Always DDU first, then try everything else. Also, fresh 4090, 5080 and 5090 drivers are bricking up systems for everyone right now.

 

• Try an older driver.

 

NVIDIA really forcing early adopters to be beta testers.

Didn't work. It was fine until I installed the drivers (566.14)

[venomtail]

6 minutes ago, Pawer8 said:

Didn't work. It was fine until I installed the drivers (566.14)

And is 566.03 stable? First google search of 566.14 has people complaining saying it's botched. NVM, every driver search has people complaining said driver is botched...

[Pawer8]

13 minutes ago, venomtail said:

And is 566.03 stable? First google search of 566.14 has people complaining saying it's botched. NVM, every driver search has people complaining said driver is botched...

I set the pcie slot to gen 3 and it's been running for 2 minutes now. Seems ok like this but it's far from ideal as it's a serious perfomance drop.

 

Could it be the Mobo?

[IkeaGnome]

4 minutes ago, Pawer8 said:

I set the pcie slot to gen 3 and it's been running for 2 minutes now. Seems ok like this but it's far from ideal as it's a serious perfomance drop.

 

Could it be the Mobo?

Are you using a pcie riser cable to mount the graphics card vertically?

[Pawer8]

48 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Are you using a pcie riser cable to mount the graphics card vertically?

No. It's directly on the Mobo.

 

I did notice the GPU pins are a bit worn

 

Is it a problem to run pcie 3.0?

 

I noticed hwinfo doesn't see all the sensors in the gpu. Like power draw and vram usage. Fan rpm and the sort.

 

Aside from the fact that I would like to monitor those I don't know if the system is also unable to read these for the proper functioning of the gpu

[Pawer8]

Is there a way to get hwinfo to read the sensors using pcie 3.0?

 

Edit. Got hwinfo to read the card using pcie 3.0

[Pawer8]

Quick update.

 

I managed to get windows to work for a couple minutes using pcie4. Did notice audio was distorted and choppy. When changing devices the pc crashed.

 

Could that be an indicator of the issue?

 

Also, Gpuz was unable to display vram data. Vram was displayed as 0mb and bandwidth was unknown

[bellgarron77]

Hi,

 

Did you find a solution? I am having the same issue & also need to use PCIe 3.0 or windows will not run correctly, either black screen or choppy and distorted boot sounds. The only thing I have done is swap out a secondary NVMe for the one in my ALLY X but I am unsure how this would cause this sort of issue. I was wondering if this is a fault with my mobo rather than the card itself.