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13 hours ago, ocueye said:

debian is good, way simpler setup then arch. just follow the prompts and it will drop you into a cli at the end. from here, you can run a docker gui like casaos (I have used this before but it has been a while and it seems to have been renamed), umbrelos, caprover, or yunohost. They all have easy installs (most just a single curl -fsSL) and repos for apps.

Even though this thread is mad old, I think it's hilarious people still respond. I ended up building a new server running AMP (Application Management Panel) and Debian.

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Before I ask my question please keep in mind that I am completely knowledge-LESS and I have very little knowledge regarding basically all operating system information.

 

I'm in the process of researching and building a really cheap server to run minecraft, beamng, and some other random games on so that other people can join my server and I do not have to pay a hosting provider because frankly, they're a scam.

 

With my very small allotted budget of $50, I have acquired a pc with a "quad core" cpu (its really dual core with hyperthreading) and it is a complete piece of junk that is over 10 years old. I have 8 gb of DDR3 RAM, and its integrated graphics. I plan to install a cheap ssd I have lying around from other projects that is small, like 128gb I think.

 

With these resources, windows is a really bad option for an operating system that will run my servers, like Minecraft.

 

I've used Linux once in the past, and it was extremely briefly. I attempted to install Arch with the assistance of some of my friends who are all Cyber Security majors and they have extensive knowledge of these operating systems.

Needless to say, I think they're not only too complicated for me but also not the best choice for this task. I need a good os that is free, easy to use (relatively, I'm up for a challenge but not to the same extent as Arch is), super secure (so no spyware and bloatware, I have heard ungodly things about ubuntu so that's a flat out no) and can run these servers (compatibility wise.)

 

I'm not sure where to start, and I don't know much about this. I'm open to all suggestions, even though I may not use it I will definitely still look into it and do more research to determine if it will work for me.

 

Thank you in advance

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Windows will actually run completely fine on aforementioned hardware if all you're doing is a light Minecraft server. 

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2 minutes ago, Farm-Boy_7130 said:

It's a modded server, which is what concerns me.

Windows will run totally fine. It's just modded minecraft. Worst case grab a windows LTSC version for no bloat and no sudden update shutdowns.

 

9 minutes ago, Farm-Boy_7130 said:

and it is a complete piece of junk that is over 10 years old. I have 8 gb of DDR3 RAM,

Care to give us the specs? Sounds like an i3 2130 or some shit which won't be the best for a minecraft server and 50$ can get ya a 4th gen i5 quite easy.

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Windows will run totally fine. It's just modded minecraft. Worst case grab a windows LTSC version for no bloat and no sudden update shutdowns.

 

Care to give us the specs? Sounds like an i3 2130 or some shit which won't be the best for a minecraft server and 50$ can get ya a 4th gen i5 quite easy.

I think It's like an AMD A8 6500. It's a complete piece of trash, that's what I remember lol

 

Windows will do ok but it's less than Ideal.

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I think It's like an AMD A8 6500. It's a complete piece of trash, that's what I remember lol

 

Windows will do ok but it's less than Ideal.

Oh goodness good luck hosting a modern minecraft server on that no matter the os :p. Thats gonna have a BAD time.

 

Anyway just chuck lubuntu on it or something(lighter ubuntu) and call it good. Keeps it simple as it's an ubuntu distro.

 

Like this things the performance of a core 2 quad which is less than stellar

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On 1/6/2025 at 2:11 PM, Farm-Boy_7130 said:

Before I ask my question please keep in mind that I am completely knowledge-LESS and I have very little knowledge regarding basically all operating system information.

 

I'm in the process of researching and building a really cheap server to run minecraft, beamng, and some other random games on so that other people can join my server and I do not have to pay a hosting provider because frankly, they're a scam.

 

With my very small allotted budget of $50, I have acquired a pc with a "quad core" cpu (its really dual core with hyperthreading) and it is a complete piece of junk that is over 10 years old. I have 8 gb of DDR3 RAM, and its integrated graphics. I plan to install a cheap ssd I have lying around from other projects that is small, like 128gb I think.

 

With these resources, windows is a really bad option for an operating system that will run my servers, like Minecraft.

 

I've used Linux once in the past, and it was extremely briefly. I attempted to install Arch with the assistance of some of my friends who are all Cyber Security majors and they have extensive knowledge of these operating systems.

Needless to say, I think they're not only too complicated for me but also not the best choice for this task. I need a good os that is free, easy to use (relatively, I'm up for a challenge but not to the same extent as Arch is), super secure (so no spyware and bloatware, I have heard ungodly things about ubuntu so that's a flat out no) and can run these servers (compatibility wise.)

 

I'm not sure where to start, and I don't know much about this. I'm open to all suggestions, even though I may not use it I will definitely still look into it and do more research to determine if it will work for me.

 

Thank you in advance

Windows will probably be most familiar to you, though even with one game server running, you would still suck at performance, I suggest Ubuntu desktop, since well, that's the only hope of   "good" performance out of it.

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Ubuntu Server. Doesn’t have a GUI or window manager, doesn’t have any bloat and zero spyware afaik (you can check htop to verify, also what could they possibly be stealing from you on a device dedicated to being a server). The overhead will be extremely low and you can do everything you need to do by using SSH, meaning you can easily hide it away in a closet somewhere and never need to use a monitor or mouse/keyboard with it. I have done this before on an old laptop and it works phenomenally, would recommend using tmux to run things in parallel. Alternatives would maybe be something like Alpine Linux, if you’re not dead set on a GUI I wouldn’t bother with anything heavier like Ubuntu or Lubuntu since doing everything through CLI is lowkey superior (also allows easy scripting stuff)

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Based on the hardware you described, I'd recommend debian or ubuntu. Debian will be lighter on the system than ubuntu. You could also try linux mint, which is kind of Windows-like in terms of ui style. If you want a super light OS you can try alpine linux. Any route you'll have to google some stuff, but setting up a minecraft server is easy on any operating system. I would not recommend a super heavy modpack for the server, and in terms of performance I believe you'll be above Aternos, so it's better than nothing.

 

One thing to consider for hosting games is if you have a CGNAT (ask your friends since they're in cyber security), which will make it more difficult to port forward the game server. If you are, then hosting will get a little more complicated as you'll have to find a way to bypass the CGNAT. 

 

I personally recommend debian or linux mint because they're simple and easy to use and will be lighter than windows, but the best performance you can get will probably be alpine linux.

 

Edit: also, make sure you can access the server easy enough (RDP, SSH, manually, etc) because you probably will have to turn off game servers if you want to play a different game.

 

Edit 2: did not realize this was an old thread. Sorry.

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debian is good, way simpler setup then arch. just follow the prompts and it will drop you into a cli at the end. from here, you can run a docker gui like casaos (I have used this before but it has been a while and it seems to have been renamed), umbrelos, caprover, or yunohost. They all have easy installs (most just a single curl -fsSL) and repos for apps.

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13 hours ago, ocueye said:

debian is good, way simpler setup then arch. just follow the prompts and it will drop you into a cli at the end. from here, you can run a docker gui like casaos (I have used this before but it has been a while and it seems to have been renamed), umbrelos, caprover, or yunohost. They all have easy installs (most just a single curl -fsSL) and repos for apps.

Even though this thread is mad old, I think it's hilarious people still respond. I ended up building a new server running AMP (Application Management Panel) and Debian.

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