System build advice

[Bareon9]

Budget (including currency):80000TL like 2200usd

Country: Turkey

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Other details  first of all hello i hope everyone doing fine i want to build a system for gaming and for work normally i build this example build some parts doesnt exist here but normally i live in usa but im going to stay here little bit so i can purchase that parts later

I am suspicious because the parts in the 4080 system below seem to be knockoff

but normally i think i can change the parts later below system i can put 4070ti super and improve something

[dreamcast4599]

if you are going AM5 unless you need a micro atx motherboard the asrock taichi boards are the way to go overkill vrm great bios and good cpu support i have a 7800X3D a 6700XT and an asrock B650E taichi lite alongside 32 gigs 6000 mhz ddr5 ram and at 1080p all my games are maxed out

[Bareon9]

9 minutes ago, dreamcast4599 said:

if you are going AM5 unless you need a micro atx motherboard the asrock taichi boards are the way to go overkill vrm great bios and good cpu support i have a 7800X3D a 6700XT and an asrock B650E taichi lite alongside 32 gigs 6000 mhz ddr5 ram and at 1080p all my games are maxed out

If i get that motherboard i think i need to downgrade my gpu is it worth it ?

[TatamiMatt]

Taichi is pretty overkill, you can easily go lower spec, asrocks pg lightning (atx version), HDV/M.2 (atx version) or taichi lite are all good choices if you like asrock, especially with a 4000D, can easily fit an ATX. There are also many other choices that are perfectly fine, most higher end, and even mid tier AM5 boards have crazy overkill VRMs for the cpus so most choices so long as their higher tier than the bottom are perfectly fine

 

Also id get the non icue version of the 4000D if you can, it should be quite a bit cheaper.

 

Also for RAM, get 6000CL30 (like the last builds RAM choice), higher than 6000 starts to get a bit unstable on AM5

 

The Palit 4080S is a good version of that GPU, though im not sure how kosher it is as im not familiar with the site, the main thing is that it seems a little cheap, all else look fine

[dreamcast4599]

52 minutes ago, Bareon9 said:

If i get that motherboard i think i need to downgrade my gpu is it worth it ?

in my opinion the B650E taichi light is deff worth it outs of all the reviews i have read the taichi B650E baords are the best you can always upgrade your gpu later i never cheap out on a mobo this B650E taichi lite can handle any cpu amd tosses at it

 

[Bareon9]

12 minutes ago, dreamcast4599 said:

in my opinion the B650E taichi light is deff worth it outs of all the reviews i have read the taichi B650E baords are the best you can always upgrade your gpu later i never cheap out on a mobo this B650E taichi lite can handle any cpu amd tosses at it

 

What do you think about b650 tomahawk or b650 steel legend?

[Bareon9]

13 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Taichi is pretty overkill, you can easily go lower spec, asrocks pg lightning (atx version), HDV/M.2 (atx version) or taichi lite are all good choices if you like asrock, especially with a 4000D, can easily fit an ATX. There are also many other choices that are perfectly fine, most higher end, and even mid tier AM5 boards have crazy overkill VRMs for the cpus so most choices so long as their higher tier than the bottom are perfectly fine

 

Also id get the non icue version of the 4000D if you can, it should be quite a bit cheaper.

 

Also for RAM, get 6000CL30 (like the last builds RAM choice), higher than 6000 starts to get a bit unstable on AM5

 

The Palit 4080S is a good version of that GPU, though im not sure how kosher it is as im not familiar with the site, the main thing is that it seems a little cheap, all else look fine

I found 400d airflow with psu should upgrade for that case? I found msi b650 tomahawk or ASRock X670E Pro do u think they are worth it? And what build should i get if i get rtx 4080 super build i cant do much upgrade but if i went for sapphire pulse rx7900xtx or palit 4070ti super gamerock black what do u think it will be best i can get rtx 4080 build and i think i can change part time being

[Bareon9]

18 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Taichi is pretty overkill, you can easily go lower spec, asrocks pg lightning (atx version), HDV/M.2 (atx version) or taichi lite are all good choices if you like asrock, especially with a 4000D, can easily fit an ATX. There are also many other choices that are perfectly fine, most higher end, and even mid tier AM5 boards have crazy overkill VRMs for the cpus so most choices so long as their higher tier than the bottom are perfectly fine

 

Also id get the non icue version of the 4000D if you can, it should be quite a bit cheaper.

 

Also for RAM, get 6000CL30 (like the last builds RAM choice), higher than 6000 starts to get a bit unstable on AM5

 

The Palit 4080S is a good version of that GPU, though im not sure how kosher it is as im not familiar with the site, the main thing is that it seems a little cheap, all else look fine

And everyone says u need to cool that cpu u need 360mm liquid cooling is that true?

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, Bareon9 said:

And everyone says u need to cool that cpu u need 360mm liquid cooling is that true?

Oh not at all, im running a 7800X3D with an air cooler. Doesnt get above 60/65 while gaming and 75 while stress testing

 

Im not sure if you have the option but thermalright have some great air and liquid cooling options for super cheap

[Bareon9]

8 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Oh not at all, im running a 7800X3D with an air cooler. Doesnt get above 60/65 while gaming and 75 while stress testing

 

Im not sure if you have the option but thermalright have some great air and liquid cooling options for super cheap

Actually i have this option i can change to pearless assasin is it good ? And what do you think above question and  i can change 400d for h6 flow with psu and is ASRock B650M PG Lightning matx good?

[dreamcast4599]

3 minutes ago, Bareon9 said:

Actually i have this option i can change to pearless assasin is it good ? And what do you think above question and  i can change 400d for h6 flow with psu

i run a 6700XT 7800X3d and a B650E taichi lite and im beyond happy

[TatamiMatt]

Just now, Bareon9 said:

Actually i have this option i can change to pearless assasin is it good ? And what do you think above question 

Peerless assassin is perfect, there is a phantom spirit if that option exists, it should be about the same price but just a little better in every way.

 

Im running a B650 tomahawk, but i will admit even that is a little overkill. X670 boards are even moreso as theyre the next tier up of motherboard, it mainly depends on the price of them. the cheaper the better until a certain point (not better quality but still good quality but money saving).

 

The main thing to get in a motherboard is to get one that does what you need it to do, paying for a higher quality motherboard than you need may just net you features youre not going to use and so are paying additional money for nothing. For example E boards (B650E or X670E) have PCIe5, thats their whole thing, but PCIe5 will only really become useful by the next socket of boards (maybe) so will be relatively useless for now. It isnt a hindrance but theres just no need to pay extra for something that isnt going to be taken advantage of.

 

Im running a 7900xtx myself, in straight power its on par with the 4080S, though you dont get DLSS (which is the nicer upscaler) and it wont be nearly as good for ray tracing, but if you dont mind FSR (amd upscaler) and want a cheaper GPU that will perform as well as the 4080S, the 7900xtx is that GPU. The 4070TiS is about on par with a 7900xt. 

[Bareon9]

9 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Peerless assassin is perfect, there is a phantom spirit if that option exists, it should be about the same price but just a little better in every way.

 

Im running a B650 tomahawk, but i will admit even that is a little overkill. X670 boards are even moreso as theyre the next tier up of motherboard, it mainly depends on the price of them. the cheaper the better until a certain point (not better quality but still good quality but money saving).

 

The main thing to get in a motherboard is to get one that does what you need it to do, paying for a higher quality motherboard than you need may just net you features youre not going to use and so are paying additional money for nothing. For example E boards (B650E or X670E) have PCIe5, thats their whole thing, but PCIe5 will only really become useful by the next socket of boards (maybe) so will be relatively useless for now. It isnt a hindrance but theres just no need to pay extra for something that isnt going to be taken advantage of.

 

Im running a 7900xtx myself, in straight power its on par with the 4080S, though you dont get DLSS (which is the nicer upscaler) and it wont be nearly as good for ray tracing, but if you dont mind FSR (amd upscaler) and want a cheaper GPU that will perform as well as the 4080S, the 7900xtx is that GPU. The 4070TiS is about on par with a 7900xt. 

Yes its same price but i dont know why bjt motherboard options are low i can get ASRock B650M PG Lightning matx or i can pay extra 20 and get MSI MPG B650 Gaming Plus WiFi which one is good sorry for asking so much question but i dont know much about pc building and i dont think i use raytracing much and high tier gpu like 7900xtx and rtx 4070ti super it wont be issue but which card should i think in 7900xtx only have sapphire pulse and i read its like kinda base model or i can get 4070ti super models and its cheaper?

[TatamiMatt]

24 minutes ago, Bareon9 said:

Yes its same price but i dont know why bjt motherboard options are low i can get ASRock B650M PG Lightning matx or i can pay extra 20 and get MSI MPG B650 Gaming Plus WiFi which one is good sorry for asking so much question but i dont know much about pc building and i dont think i use raytracing much and high tier gpu like 7900xtx and rtx 4070ti super it wont be issue but which card should i think in 7900xtx only have sapphire pulse and i read its like kinda base model or i can get 4070ti super models and its cheaper?

Sapphire pulse is kinda base model but with a much better cooler than AMDs own card, that or the 4070TiS, mainly depends on price, how much are the cheapest versions of each card?

 

The Asrock motherboard, i cant find a lot online about the matx PG lightning but from what i can see, it has slightly worse thermals and VRMs than some other boards, what website are you using so i can see the full offering list? Or send it over yourself, price included and ill give my thoughts on the best value boards imo.

 

If there are very minimal options other than those 2 id say the gaming plus wifi as it has better VRMS and is ATX so youll get slightly more features and will also come with built in wifi

[Bareon9]

19 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Sapphire pulse is kinda base model but with a much better cooler than AMDs own card, that or the 4070TiS, mainly depends on price, how much are the cheapest versions of each card?

 

The Asrock motherboard, i cant find a lot online about the matx PG lightning but from what i can see, it has slightly worse thermals and VRMs than some other boards, what website are you using so i can see the full offering list? Or send it over yourself, price included and ill give my thoughts on the best value boards imo.

 

If there are very minimal options other than those 2 id say the gaming plus wifi as it has better VRMS and is ATX so youll get slightly more features and will also come with built in wifi

Cheapest rx 7900xtx in here pulse and i think its equals to 1060$ that palit version isa 1022$ and its like cheapest one and in site its all tl but i think you got the idea normally i dont want to build here i bring my laptop but i dont want to use daily basis all motherboard options are here and i think i have the max budget for motherboard 8900 but if u say pay extra and get this i will try

[TatamiMatt]

25 minutes ago, Bareon9 said:

Cheapest rx 7900xtx in here pulse and i think its equals to 1060$ that palit version isa 1022$ and its like cheapest one and in site its all tl but i think you got the idea normally i dont want to build here i bring my laptop but i dont want to use daily basis all motherboard options are here and i think i have the max budget for motherboard 8900 but if u say pay extra and get this i will try

From what i can see, its a weird mix of very budget boards, and mid tier and up, no middle ground budget boards, the gaming plus wifi, either the B650 or B650M are the best choices imo, with the B650 being both slightly better but also slightly more expensive (about 300 Lira)

 

For GPUs if the 7900xtx is $1060 and 4070TiS is $1022, id get the 7900xtx, youll be a tier up in performance for a small increase in price. Which verison of GPU you get doesnt really matter so long as it has a minimum of a decent cooler that can support the heat output of the card, and the only real difficult to cool card is the AMD base coolers as the had issues with cooling, but all partner boards have that issue fixed

[Dedayog]

3 hours ago, Bareon9 said:

What do you think about b650 tomahawk or b650 steel legend?

Great boards too.

 

A motherboard is the foundation of a build, but only si much as it provides the slots and power you need

 

Almost any b650 does that just fine.

 

I would never downgrade a GPU to get a better motherboard over what I need.

 

Get a solid board and go from there.

 

 

[Bareon9]

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Great boards too.

 

A motherboard is the foundation of a build, but only si much as it provides the slots and power you need

 

Almost any b650 does that just fine.

 

I would never downgrade a GPU to get a better motherboard over what I need.

 

Get a solid board and go from there.

 

 

 I go for the msi b650 gaming plus but for gpu there is no stock for rx 7900xtx if i go for rtx 4080 i need to downgrade some pieces do u think its worth it?

[Dedayog]

15 minutes ago, Bareon9 said:

 I go for the msi b650 gaming plus but for gpu there is no stock for rx 7900xtx if i go for rtx 4080 i need to downgrade some pieces do u think its worth it?

Depends what you would downgrade.

 

2200 USD is enough for a 4080super build with a nice CPU and RAM and storage.

 

What is your build looking like?

[Bareon9]

19 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Depends what you would downgrade.

 

2200 USD is enough for a 4080super build with a nice CPU and RAM and storage.

 

What is your build looking like?

Right now like this i think its equal to 2270 USD if i pick rtx 4080 cheapest version 2400 usd what do u think about this system ? And i have a questions do u think gpu will fit case ( im going to change cooler to pearless assasin) and is motherboard cpu combo will work fine?

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Bareon9 said:

Right now like this i think its equal to 2270 USD if i pick rtx 4080 cheapest version 2400 usd what do u think about this system ? And i have a questions do u think gpu will fit case ( im going to change cooler to pearless assasin) and is motherboard cpu combo will work fine?

That's a really strong build.  Good pairing with 9700x and 7900xtx.

 

Will definitely push that monitor well.

 

Can you get 2tb of Gen 4 SSD for that price?  You don't need cutting edge 7000mb/sec for gaming at all.  Hello use 2000/sec as well as SATA still.

 

 

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

That's a really strong build.  Good pairing with 9700x and 7900xtx.

 

Will definitely push that monitor well.

 

Can you get 2tb of Gen 4 SSD for that price?  You don't need cutting edge 7000mb/sec for gaming at all.  Hello use 2000/sec as well as SATA still.

 

 

I believe the 7900xtx has been sold out sadly, the equivalent 4080 puts him above budget, @Bareon9, the 4700TiS is also an option, its quite close in performance and price to the 7900xtx, it is slightly worse value for money, but thats Nvidia, you could also try putting the thermalright cooler in and removing the deepcool and getting a slightly cheaper SSD and you might be able to fit the 4080 in closer to your budget

[Bareon9]

14 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

That's a really strong build.  Good pairing with 9700x and 7900xtx.

 

Will definitely push that monitor well.

 

Can you get 2tb of Gen 4 SSD for that price?  You don't need cutting edge 7000mb/sec for gaming at all.  Hello use 2000/sec as well as SATA still.

 

 

When i go their shop they told me this case doesnt fit at all and pearless assasin cant cool the cpu and i cant use this motherboard with this cpu are they correct? Or they just want to sell me some stuff? And probably i would pick some 2tb gen 4 ssd 

[Bareon9]

3 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

I believe the 7900xtx has been sold out sadly, the equivalent 4080 puts him above budget, @Bareon9, the 4700TiS is also an option, its quite close in performance and price to the 7900xtx, it is slightly worse value for money, but thats Nvidia, you could also try putting the thermalright cooler in and removing the deepcool and getting a slightly cheaper SSD and you might be able to fit the 4080 in closer to your budget

Actually today i went their shop and they have 7900xtx in their stock but they told me rtx 7900xtx and  this case doesnt fit at all and pearless assasin cant cool the cpu and i cant use this motherboard with this cpu are they correct? Or they just want to sold me some stuff?

[TatamiMatt]

6 minutes ago, Bareon9 said:

When i go their shop they told me this case doesnt fit at all and pearless assasin cant cool the cpu and i cant use this motherboard with this cpu are they correct? And probably i would pick some 2tb gen 4 ssd 

1st of all, peerless assassin can definitely cool the cpu

2. You can use the motherboard with that cpu however you may require a BIOS update.

3. and in what way does the case not fit? GPU length? Is the 7900xtx available and what you asked for? Because if so, it absolutely does fit

 

GPU length

 

Available space in case for GPU