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1 minute ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

here is the exact radeon card i got i found this image on google because i dont want to traumatize anyone with my cable management (exact model: HP 637997-001 AMD Radeon HD 6570 full-height graphics card - With PCIe 2.1 x16 bus interface and 1GB GDDR5 memory) 

I see. Interesting.

1 minute ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

and i came here to know if some person could help not tell me to get another card from the same vendor since i dont want to spend much for now 

I get that, but I am not sure if there is a solution to your problem that doesn't involve removing one of the cards.

anyone got any idea how to fix (this started happening when i added 2 gpus in my system in the device manager screenshot the intel one is integrated graphics so ignore it,i tried to uninstall and reinstall the amd and nvidia drivers and it didnt work, testing each one of the gpus separately it works normally, someone here must have seen this before at least once)

 

 

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the nvidia control panel works perfectly though 

 

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AMD and Nvidia drivers don't always cooperate.

Why doo you want to run both cards in the same system anyways?

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3 minutes ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

extra displays 

How many displays do you need to drive?

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19 minutes ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

extra displays 

Wouldn't monitor daisy chaining be a better fix? Tough that comes with its own complications and not sure how well it scales. I think 4 monitors per DP port at 1080p 60 so if your GPU has 2 DP connections, that's 8 monitors you can hook up with a single GPU.

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2 minutes ago, venomtail said:

I think 4 monitors per DP port at 1080p 60 so if your GPU has 2 DP connections, that's 8 monitors you can hook up with a single GPU.

The HD 6570 and the GT 730 don't have DP at all (don't know about the iGPU), so I don't know if daisychaining is an option.

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7 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

The HD 6570 and the GT 730 don't have DP at all (don't know about the iGPU), so I don't know if daisychaining is an option.

I see it now as well

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18 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Wouldn't monitor daisy chaining be a better fix? Tough that comes with its own complications and not sure how well it scales. I think 4 monitors per DP port at 1080p 60 so if your GPU has 2 DP connections, that's 8 monitors you can hook up with a single GPU.

my monitors dont have a dp out port so daisy chaining is not a question 

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Just now, PumkinEater69_ said:

my monitors dont have a dp out port so daisy chaining is not a question 

Is not an option I hope.

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15 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

The HD 6570 and the GT 730 don't have DP at all (don't know about the iGPU), so I don't know if daisychaining is an option.

the igpu only has a vga output which is not that useful

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2 minutes ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

my radeon card has dp

The specs of the Radeon HD 6570 don't seem to include DP, so that's a bit strange...

 

I'd definitely recommend using only cards from the same vendor so the drivers won't clash.

You could get something like a Quadro K2000 or K4000 to get some more useful display outputs, they both have 2 DP and 1 DVI-D ports and are fairly cheap on ebay.

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3 minutes ago, Average Nerd said:

The specs of the Radeon HD 6570 don't seem to include DP, so that's a bit strange...

 

I'd definitely recommend using only cards from the same vendor so the drivers won't clash.

You could get something like a Quadro K2000 or K4000 to get some more useful display outputs, they both have 2 DP and 1 DVI-D ports and are fairly cheap on ebay.

here is the exact radeon card i got i found this image on google because i dont want to traumatize anyone with my cable management (exact model: HP 637997-001 AMD Radeon HD 6570 full-height graphics card - With PCIe 2.1 x16 bus interface and 1GB GDDR5 memory) 

 

 Amazon.com: HP 637997-001 AMD Radeon HD 6570 full-height graphics card -  With PCIe 2.1 x16 bus interface and 1GB GDDR5 memory (Renewed) : Electronics

 

 

and i came here to know if some person could help not tell me to get another card from the same vendor since i dont want to spend much for now 

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1 minute ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

here is the exact radeon card i got i found this image on google because i dont want to traumatize anyone with my cable management (exact model: HP 637997-001 AMD Radeon HD 6570 full-height graphics card - With PCIe 2.1 x16 bus interface and 1GB GDDR5 memory) 

I see. Interesting.

1 minute ago, PumkinEater69_ said:

and i came here to know if some person could help not tell me to get another card from the same vendor since i dont want to spend much for now 

I get that, but I am not sure if there is a solution to your problem that doesn't involve removing one of the cards.

English is not my first language, so please excuse any confusion or misunderstandings on my end, also I like to edit my posts a lot.

 

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GPU: RTX 3080 12GB

RAM: 48GB DDR4 3200 UDIMM

MoBo: ASRock B550M Pro4

 

The Laptop (Lenovo Legion 5 15IAH7):

CPU: Core i5 12500H

RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR5-4800

GPU: RTX 3050 Ti mobile

OS: Windows 11 Home

 

The Tablet:

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Just now, Average Nerd said:

I see. Interesting.

I get that, but I am not sure if there is a solution to your problem that doesn't involve removing one of the cards.

got it, i guess ill have to wait until i have enough money to start building a new build

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1 hour ago, venomtail said:

Wouldn't monitor daisy chaining be a better fix? Tough that comes with its own complications and not sure how well it scales. I think 4 monitors per DP port at 1080p 60 so if your GPU has 2 DP connections, that's 8 monitors you can hook up with a single GPU.

Daisy chaining cannot go beyond the maximum number of monitors supported by the card and for most consumer cards that is four monitors.

 

You'd also specifically need monitors that support MST or and MST hub.

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1 hour ago, Eigenvektor said:

Daisy chaining cannot go beyond the maximum number of monitors supported by the card and for most consumer cards that is four monitors.

 

You'd also specifically need monitors that support MST or and MST hub.

I'm not sure a set number is how it works, as we need to define what the limit is. Actual port limits? Data throughput limit?

Usually everything comes down do data limit.

 

Looking at my RX6800 GPU I'm not seeing an actual hard limit on the amount of screens it can have, merely a data limit for each port. Online says data limit for 1.4a DP port is 26~ Gbps (only reference I have is ports on GPU not total output performance). If a 1080p 60hz input is rounded up 4Gbps data rate, I've got room for 6.5 1080p screens, so 6. Double it for the 2 ports and from my technical understanding I could squeeze 12 1080p screens, that is if the data limit is per port not GPU total limit. 

 

However reading online people are saying that for NVIDIA cards there is a software hard cap of 4 monitors so people either have to get a Quadro card or and AMD one. But yea, most common answers online are 4 monitors (still not sure if total or per daisy chain connection), 5 at 1050p and then sometimes 6.

 

But having a monitor that can also handle the daisy chain is a factor too.

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5 hours ago, venomtail said:

I'm not sure a set number is how it works, as we need to define what the limit is. Actual port limits? Data throughput limit?

Usually everything comes down do data limit.

I know there are cards that have more than four ports (e.g. 3xDP, 2xHDMI), but you can only use four of them at the same time. Could get more than four monitors by daisy chaining? As far as I know you can't.

 

Reddit claims your card can support a total of 6 displays at once. Ports individually may be capable of ~26 Gbps. Can you use both of them at full bandwidth at the same time? Makes sense to me there's a limit elsewhere. Whatever is driving these ports has its own limit and would need to be capable of ~52 Gbps to drive two ports at full bandwidth.

 

To my knowledge you need business focused cards to get more than 4–6.

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