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Budget (including currency):  500 to  1500  Euro

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Programming, Gamming Bolders gate 3, total war warhammer.

Other details: Need a monitor tho.

 

Hi people I am look for a decent prebuilt for programming and gaming.

any suggestions will help.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

Programming

how heavy?

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Well for a level for data analyst and software developer/web dev. Just don't know what you mean heavy.

 

But for machine learning , large programming projects, web developer projects.

 

But a good gaming computer should be fine.

 

Dont know much about hardware myself.

you see just came out of college

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2 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

Well for a level for data analyst and software developer/web dev. Just don't know what you mean heavy.

does it need really powerful CPU?

 

Nvidia GPU for certain tech?

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2 minutes ago, podkall said:

does it need really powerful CPU?

 

Nvidia GPU for certain tech?

Well 

  • Fast CPU speeds up compile/rendering times
  • it don't need to by a nividia GPU 

 

This is what I think is needed. Was using college computers so don't really know

 

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5 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

Well 

  • Fast CPU speeds up compile/rendering times
  • it don't need to by a nividia GPU 

 

This is what I think is needed. Was using college computers so don't really know

 

well if it's not something money serious or large scale that would require behemoth,

 

you could get decent modern PC just barely fitting in your budget,

 

it's not the best but at the same time prices in Ireland are kind of high for everything, especially AM5,

 

this is a part list and not a prebuilt though:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€388.95 @ Paradigit)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€56.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€174.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Memory: *ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€149.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€144.85 @ Paradigit)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€428.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€75.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: €1502.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-29 17:27 IST+0100

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2 minutes ago, podkall said:

well if it's not something money serious or large scale that would require behemoth,

 

you could get decent modern PC just barely fitting in your budget,

 

it's not the best but at the same time prices in Ireland are kind of high for everything, especially AM5,

 

this is a part list and not a prebuilt though:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€388.95 @ Paradigit)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€56.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€174.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Memory: *ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€149.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€144.85 @ Paradigit)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€428.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€75.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: €1502.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-29 17:27 IST+0100

Yeah I think best places are either germany or UK(do factor exchange rate tho) to buy from.

Also amazon is good in those counties.

Most PC parts are expensive in ireland.

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11 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

Yeah I think best places are either germany or UK(do factor exchange rate tho) to buy from.

Also amazon is good in those counties.

Most PC parts are expensive in ireland.

I'm affraid imports won't help with the fee, though I don't know the fee, so I assume 25% worst case, meaning rough estimate with no real-world accuracy, is 950pounds for UK,

 

similar build with slower parts would cost 1050 pounds, exceeding assumed 25% tax

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58 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

Need a monitor tho.

oh you need monitor too?

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hmmm,

 

RTX 4060 isn't fast or price efficient, but if you're not demanding a build like this could work:

(it uses 150€ monitor, so basically if you find a nice monitor for less than that that's like low response time high Hz, unless you're fine with 60Hz that is, then the monitor price could drop, I also downgraded to 1TB of SSD, but it's good quality)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€388.95 @ Paradigit)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€56.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€148.95 @ Paradigit)
Memory: *ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€149.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€98.95 @ Paradigit)
Video Card: *Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card  (€328.95 @ Paradigit)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€81.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€75.90 @ Computer Orbit)
Monitor: MSI G244F E2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  (€158.95 @ Paradigit)
Total: €1489.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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9 minutes ago, podkall said:

I'm affraid imports won't help with the fee, though I don't know the fee, so I assume 25% worst case, meaning rough estimate with no real-world accuracy, is 950pounds for UK,

 

similar build with slower parts would cost 1050 pounds, exceeding assumed 25% tax

I think computer parts ignore that tax from the UK

But that's why I think Germany is best because it's in the EU.

 

Amazon includes the taxes and import payments.

I think below explains it.

 

https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html

 

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Just now, themasteroftalking said:

I think computer parts ignore that tax from the UK

But that's why I think Germany is best because it's in the EU.

 

Amazon includes the taxes and import payments.

I think below explains it.

 

https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html

 

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yeah import fees from uk can be annoying but I have some extra budget for shipping.

Germany is an option too.

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10 minutes ago, podkall said:

oh you need monitor too?

well yeah I would like one. But it cant fit into the budget ill spend more money.

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23 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

yeah import fees from uk can be annoying but I have some extra budget for shipping.

why not use that budget to buy local instead?

 

you got the 1500€ build with monitor but weaker card RTX 4060,

 

but if you insist that it doesn't have fees, here's a 1400€ 1350€ build from Germany: (includes 150€ budget eater for monitor)

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€325.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€38.76 @ Galaxus)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€126.04 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€114.99 @ Western Digital)
Video Card: *XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€337.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€54.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€68.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Custom: 150€ Monitor  (€150.00)
Total: €1336.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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The build is supposed to have just one storage, so the price after edit will drop to ~1350€

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Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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25 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

well yeah I would like one. But it cant fit into the budget ill spend more money.

if your budget can flex quite largely, you can get yourself a nice powerful gaming PC

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Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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19 minutes ago, podkall said:

if your budget can flex quite largely, you can get yourself a nice powerful gaming PC

Thanks, Podkall for the builds.  I think I am priority is the PC build  but would like a monitor too.

 

So I think your right the 1500 euro build is probably the best.

 

Iam not sure there is no import fees ill have to research a bit more. 

 

the plan is for a 1500 budget for both. 

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14 minutes ago, themasteroftalking said:

Thanks, Podkall for the builds.  I think I am priority is the PC build  but would like a monitor too.

 

So I think your right the 1500 euro build is probably the best.

 

Iam not sure there is no import fees ill have to research a bit more. 

 

the plan is for a 1500 budget for both. 

what about the one from Germany? that one is faster and has 2TB storage

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Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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Just now, podkall said:

what about the one from Germany? that one is faster and has 2TB storage

both are great though, the 6750 XT is slightly faster than 4060

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  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
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34 minutes ago, podkall said:

both are great though, the 6750 XT is slightly faster than 4060

I could get everything off german amazon with out the GPU for €958.80

 

except the GPU I just don't know if I can trust the other sellers ill have to check there reviews

 

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actually i can get all the parts for 

 

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From german Amazon and they handle the fees.  I think if they are  in the eu no customs just VAT. 

 

Just have to pick a monitor now. Maybe your one that you suggested .

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