mITX AMD - worth it?

[Guest]

Howdy everyone, just wanted to know if mini-ITX AMD is worth it right now. I'm deciding whether I should save some money and just get a 7850K + Gigabyte FM2+ A88X mini ITX board and play on the integrated graphics. From what I heard Kaveri has some pretty good graph7ics capabilities.

 

I think that one and all the other FM2+ mITX boards only have 4 pin connector and givne that AMD FM2+ generally need a healthy overclock to keep up with i3. Would it be worth it or would that 4 pin limit me so much that down the road I can't OC at all so ill have to replace the CPU and motherboard?

 

i can't do mATX, it's too big. I need a system that fits in a SG05. On the side I have in mind a 4590 + R7 265 system but it costs $200 more.

[SAV1OUR]

for apu systems yes otherwise no 

[SamsungAspireT100]

for apu systems yes otherwise no 

I agree if you want a portable solution yes but otherwise no because the piledriver CPU's get really hot and its gonna be hard to find a nice board with quality behind it.

[CCap]

I agree if you want a portable solution yes but otherwise no because the piledriver CPU's get really hot and its gonna be hard to find a nice board with quality behind it.

mITX isn't even a thing on AM3+. Period. Even mATX boards aren't reliable, and to my knowledge there aren't even 990fx chipset boards that support it. 

 

You appear to be using this for gaming, so the extra $200 will give you a TON more performance. Have you considered taking the option of running your APU in cfx with your GPU? e.g. R7 265 + A10-7xxx?

[SamsungAspireT100]

mITX isn't even a thing on AM3+. Period. Even mATX boards aren't reliable, and to my knowledge there aren't even 990fx chipset boards that support it. 

 

You appear to be using this for gaming, so the extra $200 will give you a TON more performance. Have you considered taking the option of running your APU in cfx with your GPU? e.g. R7 265 + A10-7xxx?

Thats what I mean about quality you wont be finding any small boards in AM3 because of the heat output good point though.

[Opcode]

For the form factor a APU is a good solution, tho if you don't mind spending a bit more a i3-4150 and a R7 265 will offer way superior performance. I don't see the point of going up to a i5-4590 unless you plan on stacking a higher end GPU in the machine later. Otherwise the i3-4150, H/Z97 motherboard, and whatever GPU you decide is the best route.

[WoodenMarker]

4 pin is plenty for oc'ing. An extra 4 pin is only 'needed' for extreme oc's with liquid nitrogen and such. 

[Guest]

4 pin is plenty for oc'ing. An extra 4 pin is only 'needed' for extreme oc's with liquid nitrogen and such. 

 

Is that figure for Haswell 84W CPUs? The 7850K has a 95W TDP, the 6800K and 760K have a 100W TDP

 

On the VRM side I'm sure the gigabyte board can handle it 

[WoodenMarker]

Is that figure for Haswell 84W CPUs? The 7850K has a 95W TDP, the 6800K and 760K have a 100W TDP

On the VRM side I'm sure the gigabyte board can handle it 

The 4/8 pin is a secondary connector. It provides extra power. The motherboard is supposed to provide power to the cpu. There are some amd motherboards that accept 125w cpus with a 4 pin connector. 

The figure is for all cpus. 

[Guest]

The 4/8 pin is a secondary connector. It provides extra power. The motherboard is supposed to provide power to the cpu. There are some amd motherboards that accept 125w cpus with a 4 pin connector. 

The figure is for all cpus. 

 

So a 4.4GHz goal for the 760K or 7850K would be reasonable or no? Assuming that I have something like a H60.

 

Would that be able to keep up with a refresh i3 or would I be wasting my time? There aren't a lot of benchmarks for the 7850K and none at all for the 760K

[WoodenMarker]

So a 4.4GHz goal for the 760K or 7850K would be reasonable or no? Assuming that I have something like a H60.

Would that be able to keep up with a refresh i3 or would I be wasting my time? There aren't a lot of benchmarks for the 7850K and none at all for the 760K

Very doable. Average 760K oc is ~4.5 ghz. Not sure about the 7850K though.

Why use a H60?

Not sure about how they would hold up to a refresh i3. 

[Guest]

Very doable. Average 760K oc is ~4.5 ghz. Not sure about the 7850K though.

Why use a H60?

Not sure about how they would hold up to a refresh i3. 

 

I've heard that 760K runs unreasonably hot and can challenge 80°C on a 212 EVO at ~4.4 ish. Plus there are only about 2 options for the SG05; a low profile like the L9a or a 120mm AIO like the H60.