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[housam900]

Hello, I have a Optiplex 7060 Tower and It has an i7 8700, 16GB RAM, 550w Power Supply, and i've been wanting to get an RX 580 8gb Version.

 

I have 2 Questions.

 

1: I've searched the manual for the computer to check if it has the slots required for the RX 580.

The image i've put up is what popped up.

 

2: Is there a limit to how much VRAM I can put into my computer? 

like can my computer handle 8GB of VRAM? or not? 

 

(The motherboard model is 0C96W1)

 

 

 

[YoungBlade]

Your issue isn't going to be VRAM - that's irrelevant unless you've got something truly ancient. As in, pre-PCI Express days. Don't worry about that.

 

Your main issues are going to be physically fitting the GPU in your case (some RX 580 cards are kinda beefy compared to an OEM system) and the power supply.

 

Can you give us a model number on the PSU? Or tell us its wattage? If you're unsure, take a picture of the sticker on the side inside the computer and I can try to read it to see.

 

EDIT: I just checked Dell's website. Unfortunately, it looks like the most wattage for any models of that system came with is just a 260W PSU. You're not running an RX 580 off of that. And because the PSU uses a proprietary connection to the motherboard (because it's Dell, so of course it does) then you'll need to get an adapter to buy a new PSU for this project.

[OddOod]

34 minutes ago, housam900 said:

550w Power Supply

How sure are you of this wattage?

[Tetras]

Looks like the max card that Dell fitted to this PC was a 1050 and I'm pretty sure all the other options are slot powered, does it even have a power connector?

 

You might be best off with a slot powered card like the 1650 (warning: some have power connectors) or 3050 6GB.

[Pasi123]

Should work fine if it's a good quality 550W PSU and has a 8-pin PCIe power cable.

[Agall]

2 hours ago, Tetras said:

Looks like the max card that Dell fitted to this PC was a 1050 and I'm pretty sure all the other options are slot powered, does it even have a power connector?

 

You might be best off with a slot powered card like the 1650 (warning: some have power connectors) or 3050 6GB.

This platform should support ReBAR, but I doubt Dell would add support for it. Otherwise, one of the LP Intel Arc A380's would be stellar here since those don't have AUX power connectors.

 

RTX 3050 6GB is my pick though, I'm probably going to buy one myself.

[housam900]

On 4/16/2024 at 12:22 AM, Pasi123 said:

Should work fine if it's a good quality 550W PSU and has a 8-pin PCIe power cable.

so if it has a 8pin connector the rx580 is gonna work?

 

On 4/15/2024 at 9:34 PM, YoungBlade said:

Your issue isn't going to be VRAM - that's irrelevant unless you've got something truly ancient. As in, pre-PCI Express days. Don't worry about that.

 

Your main issues are going to be physically fitting the GPU in your case (some RX 580 cards are kinda beefy compared to an OEM system) and the power supply.

 

Can you give us a model number on the PSU? Or tell us its wattage? If you're unsure, take a picture of the sticker on the side inside the computer and I can try to read it to see.

 

EDIT: I just checked Dell's website. Unfortunately, it looks like the most wattage for any models of that system came with is just a 260W PSU. You're not running an RX 580 off of that. And because the PSU uses a proprietary connection to the motherboard (because it's Dell, so of course it does) then you'll need to get an adapter to buy a new PSU for this project.

A long time ago i changed my power supply to a 550w but it doesnt have any stickers on it or anything... and the box is gone aswell 

 

but if it has a 8 pin connector its gonna to work fine right? 

 

 

[housam900]

On 4/15/2024 at 9:59 PM, OddOod said:

How sure are you of this wattage?

I bought the power supply a long time ago and I remember it being a 550w one 

[housam900]

On 4/15/2024 at 10:13 PM, Tetras said:

Looks like the max card that Dell fitted to this PC was a 1050 and I'm pretty sure all the other options are slot powered, does it even have a power connector?

 

You might be best off with a slot powered card like the 1650 (warning: some have power connectors) or 3050 6GB.

What does slot powered mean? 

 

[housam900]

On 4/15/2024 at 10:13 PM, Tetras said:

Looks like the max card that Dell fitted to this PC was a 1050 and I'm pretty sure all the other options are slot powered, does it even have a power connector?

 

You might be best off with a slot powered card like the 1650 (warning: some have power connectors) or 3050 6GB.

How do i check if it has a power connector?

[YoungBlade]

36 minutes ago, housam900 said:

so if it has a 8pin connector the rx580 is gonna work?

 

A long time ago i changed my power supply to a 550w but it doesnt have any stickers on it or anything... and the box is gone aswell 

 

but if it has a 8 pin connector its gonna to work fine right?

The RX 580 should function with a 550W unit, it does in my secondary system - I've got a Core i5 9600K and RX 580 4GB with a 550W PSU.

 

The concern would be the quality of the PSU. Poor quality units can, in fact, damage other components. The quality of your unit is unknown. Since you've been successfully using it for a while, it's probably fine, but we can't say for sure.

 

33 minutes ago, housam900 said:

What does slot powered mean?

Drawing all of its power from the PCIe slot, thus not needing any power connectors. Such cards are limited to a 75W power draw, as that's the max per the PCIe spec.

 

32 minutes ago, housam900 said:

How do i check if it has a power connector?

I believe you've already confirmed that your current unit has an 8-pin connector - that's what's being asked for.

[Tetras]

37 minutes ago, housam900 said:

How do i check if it has a power connector?

If you need to buy one without because your PSU doesn't have any, then you'd need to check the specs carefully on the manufacturer website. They will normally say if the card requires a power connector (or not). You could also google for reviews of the model as they will often show the connector in the pictures.

 

The RX 580 will definitely need an 8 pin PCIE connector, some (e.g. Nitro+) also need a 6 pin PCIE connector.

[housam900]

54 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

The RX 580 should function with a 550W unit, it does in my secondary system - I've got a Core i5 9600K and RX 580 4GB with a 550W PSU.

 

The concern would be the quality of the PSU. Poor quality units can, in fact, damage other components. The quality of your unit is unknown. Since you've been successfully using it for a while, it's probably fine, but we can't say for sure.

 

Drawing all of its power from the PCIe slot, thus not needing any power connectors. Such cards are limited to a 75W power draw, as that's the max per the PCIe spec.

 

I believe you've already confirmed that your current unit has an 8-pin connector - that's what's being asked for.

Thank you.

i just want to check 

so my power supply has an 8pin connector so I basically just get the rx 580 and plug it into the slot and i just plug in the connector?

 

also it says the card needs a PCIe 3.0 x16.. but on the image i uploaded it says 

my motherboard has a PCIe x16 (wired x4???) 

[YoungBlade]

5 minutes ago, housam900 said:

Thank you.

i just want to check 

so my power supply has an 8pin connector so I basically just get the rx 580 and plug it into the slot and i just plug in the connector?

 

also it says the card needs a PCIe 3.0 x16.. but on the image i uploaded it says 

my motherboard has a PCIe x16 (wired x4???) 

Can you send a picture of your specific motherboard?

 

I'm wondering if it's a version where the main x16 slot wasn't soldered on. The images of your board online all show it having two x16 slots, one of which is wired x4.

 

The card would work in the x4 slot, although it's not ideal as it could cost performance in some situations.

[housam900]

54 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

Can you send a picture of your specific motherboard?

 

I'm wondering if it's a version where the main x16 slot wasn't soldered on. The images of your board online all show it having two x16 slots, one of which is wired x4.

 

The card would work in the x4 slot, although it's not ideal as it could cost performance in some situations.

 

[YoungBlade]

@housam900

 

That is not your motherboard. That is a picture of the same model online.

 

Can you give us a picture of the inside of your case? Not something you found though an online image search. A picture of your actual computer.

[housam900]

7 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

@housam900

 

That is not your motherboard. That is a picture of the same model online.

 

Can you give us a picture of the inside of your case? Not something you found though an online image search. A picture of your actual computer.

 

[YoungBlade]

54 minutes ago, housam900 said:

 

Looks like you have all the slots available. That blue PCIe slot should be the x16 one. That's where you should install the graphics card - it is a x16 slot both physically and electronically, and should link directly to the CPU.

[housam900]

1 hour ago, YoungBlade said:

Looks like you have all the slots available. That blue PCIe slot should be the x16 one. That's where you should install the graphics card - it is a x16 slot both physically and electronically, and should link directly to the CPU.

Thank you so much, I just have one last question.

 

Is the Corsair CX650 80 Plus Bronze a good Power supply?, and will it be compatible with the RX 580 8GB and my pc

 

btw its RX 580 from ASRock and it's a 6 pin connector so ill get the corsair power supply for it and for the future too

 

[YoungBlade]

6 minutes ago, housam900 said:

Thank you so much, I just have one last question.

 

Is the Corsair CX650 80 Plus Bronze a good Power supply?, and will it be compatible with the RX 580 8GB and my pc

The CX650 is not currently rated on the PSU Cultists' Tier List. Tom's Hardware gave the 2020 version a favorable review. It should be adequate if I had to guess.

 

You will need an adapter for it to work with your motherboard. Presumably you are currently using such an adapter with your 550W unit.

[housam900]

13 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

The CX650 is not currently rated on the PSU Cultists' Tier List. Tom's Hardware gave the 2020 version a favorable review. It should be adequate if I had to guess.

 

You will need an adapter for it to work with your motherboard. Presumably you are currently using such an adapter with your 550W unit.

Do i need an external adapter or the does the adapter come with the CX650 power supply?

[YoungBlade]

26 minutes ago, housam900 said:

Do i need an external adapter or the does the adapter come with the CX650 power supply?

How are you making your 550W unit work right now?