PC Part Attempt

[Smallshortround]

Budget (including currency): no set budget, but anything under $5,000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming like Overwatch, Bannerlord, Elden Ring, and Ashes of Creation when it comes out and more.  Also a game dev using unity

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Im upgrading from an i7 7800, GTX 1080 cause it just cant run my games anymore at 144+ fps at 1440p

 

I really want some help with is there anything here I should change or rethink.  I know the RTX4080 Super is a great option with about a -30% from a 4090 from what I saw.  Im not sure and am currently thinking the 4090 to be safe.  But other than that I dont know if there is anything about this build that is bad or I should change.  I have never built a computer before so I'm not really sure.  Also I plan to run my GTX 1080 in this pc aswell for stuff like light baking and other things so it doesnt take up any power from my main gpu. 

 

[Hellowpplz]

6 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Budget (including currency): no set budget, but anything under $5,000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming like Overwatch, Bannerlord, Elden Ring, and Ashes of Creation when it comes out and more.  Also a game dev using unity

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Im upgrading from an i7 7800, GTX 1080 cause it just cant run my games anymore at 144+ fps at 1440p

 

I really want some help with is there anything here I should change or rethink.  I know the RTX4080 Super is a great option with about a -30% from a 4090 from what I saw.  Im not sure and am currently thinking the 4090 to be safe.  But other than that I dont know if there is anything about this build that is bad or I should change.  I have never built a computer before so I'm not really sure.  Also I plan to run my GTX 1080 in this pc aswell for stuff like light baking and other things so it doesnt take up any power from my main gpu. 

 

Im assuming you just refuse to go amd? Also remember that weird connector for power on the 4090. If you go amd you could get the 7900xtx for the 4070 ti / 4080 price.
 

And through some research on reviews the 7900xtx beats the 4080 super by up to 13% in Far Cry 6 at 4k.

Edit: Also the 7900xtx has 24gb of vram and the 4080 super has 16gb.

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Budget (including currency): no set budget, but anything under $5,000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming like Overwatch, Bannerlord, Elden Ring, and Ashes of Creation when it comes out and more.  Also a game dev using unity

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Im upgrading from an i7 7800, GTX 1080 cause it just cant run my games anymore at 144+ fps at 1440p

 

I really want some help with is there anything here I should change or rethink.  I know the RTX4080 Super is a great option with about a -30% from a 4090 from what I saw.  Im not sure and am currently thinking the 4090 to be safe.  But other than that I dont know if there is anything about this build that is bad or I should change.  I have never built a computer before so I'm not really sure.  Also I plan to run my GTX 1080 in this pc aswell for stuff like light baking and other things so it doesnt take up any power from my main gpu. 

 

Could you post the link so i can make some changes?

[venomtail]

Go all out but be sensible with it. Overpriced cooler. Weaker motherboard. Slow memory. Best get a separate boot drive. 4090 is fast but a halo product, one tier down is far more sensible. Meh case, way too much. Overpriced PSU.

 

Try this. 50% savings at 95% performance. PSU with a 12PWRM cable so you don't have to use adapters:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($369.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($225.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($105.95 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($237.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI EXPERT GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2472.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-11 08:27 EDT-0400

[PDifolco]

13 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Budget (including currency): no set budget, but anything under $5,000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming like Overwatch, Bannerlord, Elden Ring, and Ashes of Creation when it comes out and more.  Also a game dev using unity

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Im upgrading from an i7 7800, GTX 1080 cause it just cant run my games anymore at 144+ fps at 1440p

 

I really want some help with is there anything here I should change or rethink.  I know the RTX4080 Super is a great option with about a -30% from a 4090 from what I saw.  Im not sure and am currently thinking the 4090 to be safe.  But other than that I dont know if there is anything about this build that is bad or I should change.  I have never built a computer before so I'm not really sure.  Also I plan to run my GTX 1080 in this pc aswell for stuff like light baking and other things so it doesnt take up any power from my main gpu. 

 

Some weirdness for a super hi end build

Very basic board, get a good one like a B650E  Strix E-E ($300 some)

Slow SSD, get a WD SN850X or a Samsung 990

Slowish RAM, get 6000CL30

 

And the Noctua isn't the better choice for AM5, a TR PS120 is better and cheaper

 

 

[Smallshortround]

16 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Could you post the link so i can make some changes?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WmmHG

Hope this works, ive never really used pc part picker before, lol

[Hellowpplz]

2 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WmmHG

Hope this works, ive never really used pc part picker before, lol

Yup, thats right.

[Smallshortround]

20 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

Im assuming you just refuse to go amd? Also remember that weird connector for power on the 4090. If you go amd you could get the 7900xtx for the 4070 ti / 4080 price.
 

And through some research on reviews the 7900xtx beats the 4080 super by up to 13% in Far Cry 6 at 4k.

Edit: Also the 7900xtx has 24gb of vram and the 4080 super has 16gb.

Ya, for the first 50% of reading your message I thought you didn't understand until I realized you meant amd for gpu LOL.  Ya, I wouldn't ever go amd for that.  Too many bugs that ive seen plus some things like light baking for unity doesnt support a non Nvidia gpu

[Hellowpplz]

6 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Ya, for the first 50% of reading your message I thought you didn't understand until I realized you meant amd for gpu LOL.  Ya, I wouldn't ever go amd for that.  Too many bugs that ive seen plus some things like light baking for unity doesnt support a non Nvidia gpu

Yea so most comparisons (all the ones ive seen) say that the 7900 xtx beats the 4080 super in 2/3 to 3/4 of all games, the 4080 super of which is more expensive.

[venomtail]

13 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Ya, I wouldn't ever go amd for that.  Too many bugs that ive seen plus some things like light baking for unity doesnt support a non Nvidia gpu

What? Where did you get this? I've done game dev on Unity on an AMD GPU and baking and all's been fine. NVIDIA is also known to drop the ball and have buggy stuff, no one's immune.

[LinusIsTuff]

6 minutes ago, venomtail said:

What? Where did you get this? I've done game dev on Unity on an AMD GPU and baking and all's been fine. NVIDIA is also known to drop the ball and have buggy stuff, no one's immune.

Light baking should work ya

[Smallshortround]

8 minutes ago, venomtail said:

What? Where did you get this? I've done game dev on Unity on an AMD GPU and baking and all's been fine. NVIDIA is also known to drop the ball and have buggy stuff, no one's immune.

Well I use Bakery which requires it.  Plus amd for me I have seen a lot of friends that tried it and said never again on the gpu.  Then I have never had an issue with nvidia except for now just being under powered and time for an upgrade, but perhaps they have gotten a lot better recently.

[Smallshortround]

37 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Go all out but be sensible with it. Overpriced cooler. Weaker motherboard. Slow memory. Best get a separate boot drive. 4090 is fast but a halo product, one tier down is far more sensible. Meh case, way too much. Overpriced PSU.

 

Try this. 50% savings at 95% performance. PSU with a 12PWRM cable so you don't have to use adapters:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($369.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($225.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($105.95 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($237.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI EXPERT GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2472.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-11 08:27 EDT-0400

thanks for this, one area that I dont understand is ram.  I just dont really understand why that ram would be better, what is the indicator for the speed other than 5600.  Im just not very familiar with how to gauge how good ram is.

[BahnStormer]

I'd put the old GPU in another PC.... your main rig doesn't need extra power load / heat sources

Try to find some lower latency RAM: GSkill FlareX5 DDR5 6000 CL30 is my favourite right now.... it's the same price and 20% faster - especially noticeable for gaming!

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3bfnJy

7800x3d + 4080s + 96gb 6400c32 (eff 6000c32)

 

obviously not max value optimized otherwise i would have gone for a cheaper board but ive value optimized everything aside from the board and probably the rams

 

board wise its a top end b650e taichi litr thats got all the bells and whistles like the postcode, eclk for x3d overclocking, usb4 on the rear, 13 total usb3 type a ports + 4 usb2, etc. but if you dont really need all of that then youd be better off with a cheaper board like the b650m hdv or b650 livemixer

 

imo the only things above the b650m hdv that are worth buying would be the livemixer and the taichi since those are the only boards that actually offer noticable improvements (livemixer with its shitload of usba ports, 21 total to be exact, and the taichi lite with its bells and whistles from a top of the line board whilst not being too pricey), above that theres the x670e-f and proart x670e but thats only if you need the extra pcie lanes and/or you want the i/o of the proart x670e

 

rams wise after you set xmp youll wanna manually set ram frequency to 6000 just so you dont have to tune it and you can set and forget, if you dont need 96gb of ram theres a mushkin sf 64gb 6400c30 kit at 190$ or whatever 32gb 6000c30/6400c32 kit you can find at 90-100$, though prefer 6400 cause thatll guarantee hynix a die or whatevers the top ic atm so you dont ever have to swap your rams if a future cpu needs faster rams

 

ssd is a much faster dram 4tb and not a slow dramless like the nv2, you can add more of em if you need more storage, if you dont need the speed dont bother with gen5 ssds, also you arent really saving that much by getting a slow ssd here so might aswell get a high end dram gen4

 

case is personal preference so thats up to you to decide

 

1300w psu just because its >1200w with and a 10 year warranty whilst being a pretty decent value compared to other 1000/1200w units with a 10 year warranty

 

monitor is also personal preference but if you did add the monitor in your list to here you can certainly still fit a 4090 (aorus master at 1900$)

 

if you make money from this pc definitely gear it towards whatevers making you money otherwise do whatever you want with it given the budget

[venomtail]

1 hour ago, Smallshortround said:

thanks for this, one area that I dont understand is ram.  I just dont really understand why that ram would be better, what is the indicator for the speed other than 5600.  Im just not very familiar with how to gauge how good ram is.

In very simplified terms for RAM, the MHz speed is in reference to how quickly it can process the data on itself, the higher the better. The CL references how quickly the data can come in and out of RAM, the lower the better.

 

AMD's Ryzen loves low latency whilst speed should stay high enough. 7000 Ryzen has a softcap of 6000MHz speed, past if starts very diminishing returns. Intel pretty much only cares about outright speed. At the budget you have it's worth spending the extra $10 for low latency RAM with this CPU combo. This CPU is pretty much the best gaming CPU there is. I assume your Unity workload is not professional but if it was, then 7950X3D would be a better workload choice and then it coming 2nd for gaming performance.

 

Also depending on your workload we could upgrade to 64GB of RAM (2x32GB 5600MHzCL28/6000MHzCL30) knowing how much of a RAM how UE4 was and UE5 is.

 

64GB RAM

[Why_Me]

500GB SSD for your o/s, 4TB SSD for storage and only one SSD software proggy to deal with (Crucial).

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Mushkin Redline ST 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($187.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: *Crucial P5 Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($75.05 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($237.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Asus TUF Gaming OG OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  ($2092.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($169.90 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: *Samsung Odyssey G9 G93SC 49.0" 5120 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor  ($1099.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $4573.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-11 14:09 EDT-0400

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI  

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml

 

http://www.poweredbymushkin.com/Home/index.php/products2/item/266-ddr5-2/1920-mrf5u600affp32gx2  

 

https://www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-p5-plus-ssd

 

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4406  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ 

 

The difference between the 13700 and the 13700K is 1 - 2 frames per second at 1080P. Expect similar fps as the 7800X3D at 4K but with the added value of the E-cores. These benchmarks were done with a RTX 4090.