Low CPU usage, need help!

[xooo]

I usually play very CPU intensive games that require very low settings for the best performance but I have recently taken an interest in some very graphic intensive games. In the build I am currently using, I am running an i7-13700K processor with a RTX 3060. I realize my GPU is outdated for my CPU but I am curious if that is why I am greatly losing FPS in more graphic demanding games. My CPU usage will be very low while my GPU usage will be through the roof and I assume that is due to the bottle necking. I just wanted someone else’s advice or opinion on the situation as I am planning on upgrading my GPU and wanted to make sure that this is what is causing the issue. 

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, xooo said:

 

I usually play very CPU intensive games that require very low settings for the best performance but I have recently taken an interest in some very graphic intensive games. In the build I am currently using, I am running an i7-13700K processor with a RTX 3060. I realize my GPU is outdated for my CPU but I am curious if that is why I am greatly losing FPS in more graphic demanding games. My CPU usage will be very low while my GPU usage will be through the roof and I assume that is due to the bottle necking. I just wanted someone else’s advice or opinion on the situation as I am planning on upgrading my GPU and wanted to make sure that this is what is causing the issue. 

The CPU feeds information to the rest of the system like RAM and GPU.  If your GPU is at 100% usage the CPU won't work 'harder' because its already giving the GPU all the information it needs for it to run at 100%.

You should see higher CPU usage with a better GPU as it needs to work harder.

You are being GPU bottlenecked in heavy demanding games with your 3060.

 

Its of course a bit more complicated than that but you get the idea.

[Hellowpplz]

20 minutes ago, xooo said:

 

I usually play very CPU intensive games that require very low settings for the best performance but I have recently taken an interest in some very graphic intensive games. In the build I am currently using, I am running an i7-13700K processor with a RTX 3060. I realize my GPU is outdated for my CPU but I am curious if that is why I am greatly losing FPS in more graphic demanding games. My CPU usage will be very low while my GPU usage will be through the roof and I assume that is due to the bottle necking. I just wanted someone else’s advice or opinion on the situation as I am planning on upgrading my GPU and wanted to make sure that this is what is causing the issue. 

imma just recede into the bushes

[TatamiMatt]

6 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

Exception of VERRRRY graphics intensive games (cyberpunk 2077, spiderman mm highest settings), that cpu matches up well with the gpu. Can't give an exact amount, but at least according to bottleneck calculator, in balanced tasks its a 0.0% bottleneck, in processor intensive tasks it's about 12% cpu bottleneck, and in gpu intensive its been about 10% bottleneck.

I wouldnt trust those websites, id reckon theres a bigger than 10% bottleneck in gpu heavy tasks with that combo

[Hinjima]

7 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

Exception of VERRRRY graphics intensive games (cyberpunk 2077, spiderman mm highest settings), that cpu matches up well with the gpu. Can't give an exact amount, but at least according to bottleneck calculator, in balanced tasks its a 0.0% bottleneck, in processor intensive tasks it's about 12% cpu bottleneck, and in gpu intensive its been about 10% bottleneck.

Bottleneck calculators are absolute garbage and should never be used.

This person is severely GPU limited in heavy games.  If this person added a faster CPU this person would probably not see any FPS gain at all in gaming, if this person added a faster GPU like a 4080 the FPS increase would be insane.

 

The bottleneck calculator say that my 7700x is a 35% bottleneck for my RTX 4080 at 1440p.. This is so wrong its not even funny.

If I added a 7800X3D I would not see a 35% increase, if I added an RTX 5090 I would see a massive jump in performance.

 

Here at LTT we HATE the bottleneck calculators as they spread very false information to unfortunate people who do not know better.

[Hellowpplz]

4 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

I wouldnt trust those websites, id reckon theres a bigger than 10% bottleneck in gpu heavy tasks with that combo

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ ???

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, Hellowpplz said:

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ ???

Not on the website, i mean in reality

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, Hellowpplz said:

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ ???

Bullshit tool, basically. Just serves to confuse the already confused about this topic and doesn't actually solve anything. 

[Hellowpplz]

Just now, GuiltySpark_ said:

Bullshit tool, basically. Just serves to confuse the already confused about this topic and doesn't actually solve anything. 

oh

[Alex Atkin UK]

16 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ ???

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AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D is too weak for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 on 3840 × 2160 pixels screen resolution for General Tasks. This configuration has 19.6% of processor bottleneck

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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X is too weak for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 on 3840 × 2160 pixels screen resolution for General Tasks. This configuration has 12.0% of processor bottleneck .

This is simply not true, as I upgraded to the 7800X3D from a 5950X and the improvement in gaming performance was insane.  Starfield doubled in frame rate but a lot of games stuttering due to bad 1% lows became perfectly smooth.

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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D is too weak for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 on 3840 × 2160 pixels screen resolution for General Tasks. This configuration has 24.5% of processor bottleneck

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Intel Core i9-14900K and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 will work great together on 3840 × 2160 pixels screen resolution for General Tasks. This configuration has 3.6% of processor bottleneck . Everything less than 5% should not be concerned major bottleneck.

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Intel Core i7-12700K is too weak for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 on 3840 × 2160 pixels screen resolution for General Tasks. This configuration has 19.4% of processor bottleneck .

Then again, wtf is a "General Task"?

 

I mean you literally cannot work out a general bottleneck anyway, as all software differs.

Is the game single-core limited?  Then sure, Intel may win out.  But some games are engine limited too, where nothing you do will help.  Other games are heavily multi-threaded and you simply wont beat a 7800X3D.

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, Hellowpplz said:

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ ???

Worst website on the internet. And this is taking Tiktok into account.

[Hellowpplz]

1 minute ago, Hinjima said:

And this is taking Tiktok into account.

And I take that personally. Screw tik tok  this website comes in second no questions asked

[xooo]

1 hour ago, Hinjima said:

The CPU feeds information to the rest of the system like RAM and GPU.  If your GPU is at 100% usage the CPU won't work 'harder' because its already giving the GPU all the information it needs for it to run at 100%.

You should see higher CPU usage with a better GPU as it needs to work harder.

You are being GPU bottlenecked in heavy demanding games with your 3060.

 

Its of course a bit more complicated than that but you get the idea.

thank you i don’t really know a lot about computers as i just recently got one. would you recommend a 4060 ti?

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, xooo said:

thank you i don’t really know a lot about computers as i just recently got one. would you recommend a 4060 ti?

Thats okay!  We can't know everything   Thats why this Forum exist!

 

What is your budget and location?

I would say that the 4070 would be the minimum card to upgrade to for a decent increase in performance.

 

[xooo]

25 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Thats okay!  We can't know everything   Thats why this Forum exist!

 

What is your budget and location?

I would say that the 4070 would be the minimum card to upgrade to for a decent increase in performance.

 

I would say my budget is around 500-700 , i am near the charlotte area

[Hinjima]

4 minutes ago, xooo said:

I would say my budget is around 500-700 , i am near the charlotte area

Then a 4070 Super at 580-600usd would be a nice card and a massive upgrade over the 3060.

Its double the framerate if not a more.

The cards you are comparing is the top 3060 vs the 2nd bottom RTX 4070 Super.

He compares them at 1080p, 1440p and 4k. As seen in the top right of the video.