PC for autocad.

[WaitWhaaaaat]

Budget (including currency): 4000 pln ~ 900 eur

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Autocad professional.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): My friend want pc for autocad professional. Apparently this does not require powerful GPU, rather good cpu. Budget is tight that's why I stick with ddr4 build. Aesthetic of case does not matter, it will be hidden under desk. Thanks for any help!
My current proposal
PSU: SilentiumPC Elementum E2 450W 80 Plus (BULK) 199 pln

RAM: GOODRAM 16GB (1x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO x2 318 pln
GPU: Gainward RTX 3050 8GB 989 pln
SSD: Silicon Power 500GB m.2 149 pln
MOBO: Asus tuf gaming b550-plus wifi 599 pln
CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X 1699 pln
Case: Krux Trek 159

Total 4251 pln

 

 

[Why_Me]

Board

https://www.ceneo.pl/98143054

 

CPU 

https://www.ceneo.pl/157751971 

 

RAM

https://www.ceneo.pl/89918234  

[WaitWhaaaaat]

MOBO does not have wifi, and this is one of required feature. Cpu may be a bit weak for projects he is calculating.
If I remember correctly there was some real life performance different between 3200 and 3600 for zen3 cpus, but I may be wrong.

[brob]

40 minutes ago, WaitWhaaaaat said:

MOBO does not have wifi, and this is one of required feature. Cpu may be a bit weak for projects he is calculating.
If I remember correctly there was some real life performance different between 3200 and 3600 for zen3 cpus, but I may be wrong.

 

Most of AutoCAD is single threaded and does better with high single thread performance CPU.

 

1 hour ago, WaitWhaaaaat said:

...

My current proposal
PSU: SilentiumPC Elementum E2 450W 80 Plus (BULK) 199 pln

RAM: GOODRAM 16GB (1x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO x2 318 pln
GPU: Gainward RTX 3050 8GB 989 pln
SSD: Silicon Power 500GB m.2 149 pln
MOBO: Asus tuf gaming b550-plus wifi 599 pln
CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X 1699 pln
Case: Krux Trek 159

Total 4251 pln

 

 

 

The PSU should be avoided according to https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/. 

 

PSU affect all electronic components. It directly affects system stability, performance, and longevity.

 

Buying single sticks of memory means there is a chance that two sticks will not work in dual channel mode. A 2x16GB kit is best. DDR4-3200 CL16 offers the same performance as DDR4-3600 CL18. It is often a bit less expensive.

 

Unless the workflow involves alot of 3D or modeling work, using an iGPU would be fine. 

 

Sadly pcpartpicker doesn't have a polish site. I've used the German site as an approximation.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€197.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte A620M GAMING X Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€114.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€120.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (€296.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€40.33 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€55.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €901.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-23 16:52 CET+0100

 

[WaitWhaaaaat]

On 1/23/2024 at 4:54 PM, brob said:

 

Most of AutoCAD is single threaded and does better with high single thread performance CPU.

 

 

The PSU should be avoided according to https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/. 

 

PSU affect all electronic components. It directly affects system stability, performance, and longevity.

 

Buying single sticks of memory means there is a chance that two sticks will not work in dual channel mode. A 2x16GB kit is best. DDR4-3200 CL16 offers the same performance as DDR4-3600 CL18. It is often a bit less expensive.

 

Unless the workflow involves alot of 3D or modeling work, using an iGPU would be fine. 

 

Sadly pcpartpicker doesn't have a polish site. I've used the German site as an approximation.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€197.99 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte A620M GAMING X Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€114.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€120.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Galaxus) 
Video Card: Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (€296.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€40.33 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€55.90 @ Alza) 
Total: €901.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-23 16:52 CET+0100

 

Ok I did not wrote clearly that I will buy two ram sticks 2x16GB.

RAM: (GOODRAM 16GB (1x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO) x2 318 pln.

Thank you for replying

[WaitWhaaaaat]

@brob and @Why_Me ok guys I just talk with friend and she send me screenshot of workload when she run her software. Apparently it uses all cores. So maybe last gen 16 cores is not bad idea?

[brob]

5 hours ago, WaitWhaaaaat said:

Ok I did not wrote clearly that I will buy two ram sticks 2x16GB.

RAM: (GOODRAM 16GB (1x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO) x2 318 pln.

Thank you for replying

 

1x16GB x 2 is NOT the same as 2x16GB. In dual channel kits, e.g. 2x16GB, the memory sticks are electrically matched to assure dual channel operation. 1x16GB x 2 are two sticks of memory that have not been matched. With DDR4 the chance is low but non zero that 1x16GB x 2 will only operate single channel.

 

5 hours ago, WaitWhaaaaat said:

@brob and @Why_Me ok guys I just talk with friend and she send me screenshot of workload when she run her software. Apparently it uses all cores. So maybe last gen 16 cores is not bad idea?

 

This really doesn't provide significant data. Certainly the 100% load figures is not accurate as one can see from the thread graphs.

 

The nature of the work done in AutoCAD would provide much more useful information. Is a lot or most of the work 3D or 2D? Does the workflow involve a fair bit of Mental Ray?

 

Keep in mind that a Ryzen 7600 has six cores each offering nearly 2½ times the performance of those in the i7-3635QM. Effectively a 7600 is roughly equivalent to an i7-3635QM with 24 cores.

 

A 5950X is certainly much more powerful than a 7600. However, if most of the cores are idle most of the time it's not a good choice. This is why the question about the nature of the workflow matter.