Building pc for gaming, need help (first pc)

[kallistos]

Budget (including currency): under 1400 USD

Country: India

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fortnite, gta 5 (gta 6 when it releases), rdr2

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): preferably around 80 fps for rdr2 at 1440p (can sacrifice res for fps), not sure whether i should choose amd or intel, and also no peripherals are needed. i also dont know if i should get windows 11 or 10. Would like to hear any monitor suggestions 120 hz 1440p (not included in build)

 

[Moon23]

26 minutes ago, kallistos said:

Budget (including currency): under 1400 USD

Country: India

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fortnite, gta 5 (gta 6 when it releases), rdr2

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): preferably around 80 fps for rdr2 at 1440p (can sacrifice res for fps), not sure whether i should choose amd or intel, and also no peripherals are needed. i also dont know if i should get windows 11 or 10. Would like to hear any monitor suggestions 120 hz 1440p (not included in build)

could you mention the budget in Rs also?

[kallistos]

47 minutes ago, Moon23 said:

could you mention the budget in Rs also?

under 1,20,000 but a little over is fine

[Moon23]

1 minute ago, kallistos said:

under 1,20,000 but a little over is fine

do you want amd or intel cpu?

[kallistos]

Just now, Moon23 said:

do you want amd or intel cpu?

im not sure as im new to pc building and such

[venomtail]

$1.4k is a comfy amount for such simple games and allows you to choose premium components.

Buy windows form a reseller:

I expect on a different continent for pricing to be different from the US list. Look for cards: 6700XT - 7700XT - 6800 - 6800XT depending on how they're priced. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($419.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit  ($20.00) 
Total: $1231.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 03:56 EST-0500

[kallistos]

19 minutes ago, venomtail said:

$1.4k is a comfy amount for such simple games and allows you to choose premium components.

Buy windows form a reseller:

I expect on a different continent for pricing to be different from the US list. Look for cards: 6700XT - 7700XT - 6800 - 6800XT depending on how they're priced. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($419.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 205M MESH MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - Download 64-bit  ($20.00) 
Total: $1231.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-08 03:56 EST-0500

wouldnt 4060ti be better and also cheaper? or is rx6800 better because or amd mobo and cpu?

[venomtail]

3 minutes ago, kallistos said:

wouldnt 4060ti be better and also cheaper? or is rx6800 better because or amd mobo and cpu?

Nope, maybe and nope. 4060TI is not faster.

 

The 60 tier of this 40 series was released with its head already in the guillotine. If you're considering NVIDIA no point in getting anything lower than a 70 series and NVIDIA release its SUPER release this January worth waiting but they're still likely not to beat AMD value for money offer.

No idea what the pricing is like in India so there could be a chance the AMD cards are inflated in price.

AMD and CPU brand combo make no difference, motherboard even less.

[kallistos]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

Nope, maybe and nope. 4060TI is not faster.

 

The 60 tier of this 40 series was released with its head already in the guillotine. If you're considering NVIDIA no point in getting anything lower than a 70 series and NVIDIA release its SUPER release this January worth waiting but they're still likely not to beat AMD value for money offer.

No idea what the pricing is like in India so there could be a chance the AMD cards are inflated in price.

AMD and CPU brand combo make no difference, motherboard even less.

I checked on userbenchmark.com and it says that 4060ti is better and cheaper, so now im just confused. link-https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-6800/4149vs4088

[venomtail]

45 minutes ago, kallistos said:

I checked on userbenchmark.com and it says that 4060ti is better and cheaper, so now im just confused. link-https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-6800/4149vs4088

UserBenchmarks is a biased site that is sadly still relevant simply cause it's been around for too long. They're only useful for same brand different generation and tier comparison, such as NVIDIA vs NVIDIA.

Just look at the quote:

Quote

AMD's marketers often cherry pick obscure games with high res/settings, the details of which are rarely disclosed, then compare the results with cards that have less memory. In that scenario, the cards with less memory look weaker than they would at 1080p. The 1080p results are sometimes omitted, or worse, partially omitted and frame drops are conveniently ignored. Most users will see little benefit in gaming at high resolutions. Without drastic price cuts (MSRP $580 USD) and miraculous marketing via countless promo videos and sponsored reviews, the 6800 will struggle to compete, partly because it lacks RTX+DLSS which is required for the best gaming experience in class leading titles such as Cyberpunk 2077. Users should be wary of AMD’s army of social media accounts whose goal is to dupe shoppers any way they can.

They're likely also using a 4060TI + DLSS + Frame Generation vs 6800 Native everything (cause they're claiming AMD has none so none have been turned on. Don't forget AMD has their own DLSS and Frame Generation that can do the exact same image trickery) in Cyberpunk 2077 which yes, the 4060TI does get a single frame more but the moment you make the cards face each other that has no graphics trickery options, the 4060TI falls behind quickly. Also article is very out of date as the 6800 has ages gracefully compared to newer competition than a 2080TI such as the 3070 and its quickly disappointing 8GB of VRAM.

 

Some something more reputable such as Gamers Nexus or Tom's Hardware:

Picture above is also only 1080p in which newest most powerful cards are clearly being bottlenecked so sort of a bad chart. You're not going 4k so the bottleneck isn't relevant to you so actually makes the chart itself relevant.

 

as for your 4060TI it wouldn't be higher than a 3070 really.

 

[kallistos]

4 hours ago, venomtail said:

UserBenchmarks is a biased site that is sadly still relevant simply cause it's been around for too long. They're only useful for same brand different generation and tier comparison, such as NVIDIA vs NVIDIA.

Just look at the quote:

They're likely also using a 4060TI + DLSS + Frame Generation vs 6800 Native everything (cause they're claiming AMD has none so none have been turned on. Don't forget AMD has their own DLSS and Frame Generation that can do the exact same image trickery) in Cyberpunk 2077 which yes, the 4060TI does get a single frame more but the moment you make the cards face each other that has no graphics trickery options, the 4060TI falls behind quickly. Also article is very out of date as the 6800 has ages gracefully compared to newer competition than a 2080TI such as the 3070 and its quickly disappointing 8GB of VRAM.

 

Some something more reputable such as Gamers Nexus or Tom's Hardware:

Picture above is also only 1080p in which newest most powerful cards are clearly being bottlenecked so sort of a bad chart. You're not going 4k so the bottleneck isn't relevant to you so actually makes the chart itself relevant.

 

as for your 4060TI it wouldn't be higher than a 3070 really.

 

ok thanks for the info. is there anyway i can know what sort of fps to expect with the parts you suggested?

[venomtail]

16 hours ago, kallistos said:

ok thanks for the info. is there anyway i can know what sort of fps to expect with the parts you suggested?

Type in the combo of those parts and see what recorded gameplay comes up.