Does my Ryzen 5 7600x bottleneck my RTX 4070TI

[Lumberjack21]

Hello,

 

I just recently built a new pc. And I was a bit worried if my cpu is bottleneckning my gpu. Since I just assumed that the ryzen 5 7600x would work good with the 4070ti since both are relatively new and fast gaming components. 

Currently I play on 1080p but might buy a 1440p monitor since I understand that the 4070ti is better running on 1440p games. 

 

RTX 4070 TI 

RYZEN 5 7600X

32GB RAM 4800MHZ 

M.2 WD BLACK SSD

AM5 MOTHERBOARD

 

What are your thoughts? on https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ it said that the cpu is bottlenecking my gpu with 20-30% which o course is worrying. 

 

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Hello,

 

I just recently built a new pc. And I was a bit worried if my cpu is bottleneckning my gpu. Since I just assumed that the ryzen 5 7600x would work good with the 4070ti since both are relatively new and fast gaming components. 

Currently I play on 1080p but might buy a 1440p monitor since I understand that the 4070ti is better running on 1440p games. 

 

RTX 4070 TI 

RYZEN 5 7600X

32GB RAM 4800MHZ 

M.2 WD BLACK SSD

AM5 MOTHERBOARD

 

What are your thoughts? on https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ it said that the cpu is bottlenecking my gpu with 20-30% which o course is worrying. 

 

We don't use bottleneck calculators.  They aren't accurate. 

 

The 7600X can keep up with the 4070Ti, but if you wanted to fully unleash the 4070Ti you would have gotten a 7800x3d.  As it stands, the 7600x and 4070Ti is a good pairing.

 

There will always be a bottleneck, as if you had a 7800x3d and a 4070Ti, you'd be holding back the 7800x3d by not getting a 4090.

 

The only way to not have a bottleneck is to have the absolute best stuff in every slot, period.

 

Until then, enjoy the machine.

[Agall]

2 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Hello,

 

I just recently built a new pc. And I was a bit worried if my cpu is bottleneckning my gpu. Since I just assumed that the ryzen 5 7600x would work good with the 4070ti since both are relatively new and fast gaming components. 

Currently I play on 1080p but might buy a 1440p monitor since I understand that the 4070ti is better running on 1440p games. 

 

RTX 4070 TI 

RYZEN 5 7600X

32GB RAM 4800MHZ 

M.2 WD BLACK SSD

AM5 MOTHERBOARD

 

What are your thoughts? on https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ it said that the cpu is bottlenecking my gpu with 20-30% which o course is worrying. 

 

Yes, but so does a 7950x3D/7800x3D/14900k. The complete answer would be, "it depends", mostly based off of the games you play. If you're primarily playing multiplayer/MMO type games, there's current maximum framerates regardless of the GPU and resolution just based on the best CPUs available and game optimization.

 

The only contentious part would be your RAM, since a quality 6000MHz kit would score a decent bump in CPU performance. Otherwise, a 7600x and 4070ti is a well balanced system.

[Hinjima]

8 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Hello,

 

I just recently built a new pc. And I was a bit worried if my cpu is bottleneckning my gpu. Since I just assumed that the ryzen 5 7600x would work good with the 4070ti since both are relatively new and fast gaming components. 

Currently I play on 1080p but might buy a 1440p monitor since I understand that the 4070ti is better running on 1440p games. 

 

RTX 4070 TI 

RYZEN 5 7600X

32GB RAM 4800MHZ 

M.2 WD BLACK SSD

AM5 MOTHERBOARD

 

What are your thoughts? on https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ it said that the cpu is bottlenecking my gpu with 20-30% which o course is worrying. 

 

No, not really. Here is 2 pictures of a 10 game average with an RTX 4090 at 1080p and 1440p by Hardware unboxed. You can see how well the 7600x keeps up with an even faster GPU.

The 4070ti is actually holding the 7600x back a bit! this is good, your 4070ti is able to stretch its legs and perform well!  

Absolutely nothing to worry about here, please dont use bottleneck calculators, they are rubbish.

[191x7]

12 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Hello,

 

I just recently built a new pc. And I was a bit worried if my cpu is bottleneckning my gpu. Since I just assumed that the ryzen 5 7600x would work good with the 4070ti since both are relatively new and fast gaming components. 

Currently I play on 1080p but might buy a 1440p monitor since I understand that the 4070ti is better running on 1440p games. 

 

RTX 4070 TI 

RYZEN 5 7600X

32GB RAM 4800MHZ 

M.2 WD BLACK SSD

AM5 MOTHERBOARD

 

What are your thoughts? on https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/ it said that the cpu is bottlenecking my gpu with 20-30% which o course is worrying. 

 

Monitory your GPU usage. Low usage = bottleneck.

[GuiltySpark_]

10 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Monitory your GPU usage. Low usage = bottleneck.

Just to be clear, while true that doesn't always mean that its the CPU's fault. Engine limitations, Vsync, other framerate limiters can all play a role. 

[Lumberjack21]

Damn It feels alot better now. I was a bit confused by it saying that it did bottleneck my gpu. But what do you guys think about buying a 1440p monitor? since many people said that the 4070 ti is best for 1440p because gaming in 1080p will put more work on the cpu instead of the gpu. I don't know if that is true or how it works. But I am still confused about how a gpu can perform better and give more fps with a higher resolution. I haven't heard about that before. I just assumed that if you have a good gpu with low res it will give out more fps compared to a good gpu with high res. 

[Lumberjack21]

1 minute ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Just to be clear, while true that doesn't always mean that its the CPU's fault. Engine limitations, Vsync, other framerate limiters can all play a role. 

Yeah I have seen some performance decreases and increases while fiddeling with the settings in games. Using window mode for exampel decreased my fps by 20-30fps. 

[Lumberjack21]

And Since I don't yet have a fan hub I can only control my fans from bios and I run all my fans on 75% making everything cooler but also making everything louder. But with noise cancelling headphones that is no problem. And the water pump I run 80-100% all the time. 

[191x7]

4 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Damn It feels alot better now. I was a bit confused by it saying that it did bottleneck my gpu. But what do you guys think about buying a 1440p monitor? since many people said that the 4070 ti is best for 1440p because gaming in 1080p will put more work on the cpu instead of the gpu. I don't know if that is true or how it works. But I am still confused about how a gpu can perform better and give more fps with a higher resolution. I haven't heard about that before. I just assumed that if you have a good gpu with low res it will give out more fps compared to a good gpu with high res. 

A 1440p monitor is a great upgrade for you.

[GuiltySpark_]

13 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

But I am still confused about how a gpu can perform better and give more fps with a higher resolution.

That's not.. the whole story.. there is a little more nuance to it.

 

This will be a very simple breakdown. The CPU's job in a a generic game is to process frame data and then send it to the GPU. If the GPU is say, a GT 1030. A 1030 in modern AAA titles even at 1080p is going to be struggling, meaning it'll always be running as hard and as fast as it can. A 7600x won't have to work very hard to prepare this frame data for the 1030 so its basically sitting back doing nothing. The "Bottleneck" is the GPU. 

 

Lets say you're still at 1080p but you go out and buy a 4090. Now, the 4090 is immensely powerful and in nearly all titles, you're going to struggle to full load it up so its working as hard as it can. There simply isn't enough data in a rendered 1080p image (in most cases) for this to happen which means the 4090 is sitting around waiting for the CPU to feed it data that it can process. If that CPU is say an i3 10100, the 4090 is going to be waiting quite a while resulting in inconsistent gameplay. (Stuttering/hitching, etc..)

 

Even with a 7800x3D, a 4090 is going to have a better time but that GPU is so powerful you'll still be CPU limited in some cases and your *bottleneck* is the CPU. 

 

Now, you get a 4K display. The 4090 has a LOT more data to render and its working at full potential and suddenly its the GPU that's become the bottleneck in the performance chain. This is ideal, or at least far better than the opposite. 

 

There is a balance to be had, as well. There can be more often than not situations where you're not 100% limited by the CPU or GPU, there is a balance to be struck and this will change from game to game. 

 

All this said, you bought brand new parts that aren't budget office PC stuff, you're fine, just play games and don't worry about it. 

[Hinjima]

10 minutes ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Damn It feels alot better now. I was a bit confused by it saying that it did bottleneck my gpu. But what do you guys think about buying a 1440p monitor? since many people said that the 4070 ti is best for 1440p because gaming in 1080p will put more work on the cpu instead of the gpu. I don't know if that is true or how it works. But I am still confused about how a gpu can perform better and give more fps with a higher resolution. I haven't heard about that before. I just assumed that if you have a good gpu with low res it will give out more fps compared to a good gpu with high res. 

I use a 1440p 165hz monitor with my RTX 4080 and its absolutely fantastic I use a Ryzen 7700x as well so my system is very very similar to yours.

A 1440p Gsync compatible monitor will be a fantastic upgrade for your system.

I use the LG 27gp850-b, after trying 10 different monitors I landed on this one

Its a bit pricey but it will easily last 8+ years.

[thevictor390]

Definitely go 1440p, you can still run at 1080 when necessary then use DLSS and such but most of the time you'll do just fine at 1440. I make good use of 1440 on my 2060 Super.

[Lumberjack21]

Hi again,

 

I was just trying out Microsoft flight sim and I did not expect this low of performance. I get around 40-60 fps using high settings and it seems that my gpu on 100%. Seems like some sort of setting holding it back. I have played the new warzone and I was getting 140-160 fps on high settings so it must be some sort of setting I guess. I have set the GPU to be used in nvidia control panel and that the GPU should use max performance. Any of you guys know what it could be? 

[Blue4130]

1 hour ago, Lumberjack21 said:

Hi again,

 

I was just trying out Microsoft flight sim and I did not expect this low of performance. I get around 40-60 fps using high settings and it seems that my gpu on 100%. Seems like some sort of setting holding it back. I have played the new warzone and I was getting 140-160 fps on high settings so it must be some sort of setting I guess. I have set the GPU to be used in nvidia control panel and that the GPU should use max performance. Any of you guys know what it could be? 

 

Your gpu IS 100%? Then it is holding back your fps. If you want more fps, then you need a better card or lower the graphics settings.

[GuiltySpark_]

1 hour ago, Lumberjack21 said:

I get around 40-60 fps using high settings and it seems that my gpu on 100%

Sounds like typical Flight Simulator. What resolution? DLSS enabled?

 

100% GPU usage is how you know nothing else is holding it back. 

[andreimelo]

I have a 7600x paired with a 7900xtx which is equivalent to a 4080, and I have 100% gpu usage all the time. So 4070 would be fine.

[Lumberjack21]

15 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

Your gpu IS 100%? Then it is holding back your fps. If you want more fps, then you need a better card or lower the graphics settings.

No my GPU is around 30-50% and I don't need a better card. the 4070 ti should run flight sim 1080p on more than 100 fps on ultra settings

[Lumberjack21]

15 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Sounds like typical Flight Simulator. What resolution? DLSS enabled?

 

100% GPU usage is how you know nothing else is holding it back. 

1080p I tested with DLAA, FXAA and DLSS but DLSS didn't make any change. It looks like the CPU is working at around 40-70% but the GPU is still not on 100% usage. Since all my other games run good with 100+ fps. Even my old computer with ryzen 7 1700 and gtx 1060 6gb ran the game better than this on low-medium settings. It's not like I play the game a lot but it really bugs me that I such a powerful GPU and in some games that power just doesn't show up performance wise. 

[Lumberjack21]

13 hours ago, andreimelo said:

I have a 7600x paired with a 7900xtx which is equivalent to a 4080, and I have 100% gpu usage all the time. So 4070 would be fine.

Yeah, I still don't see the problem, I hope it is just a setting for the GPU or something but shouldn't it run on 100% when it needs to without needing to apply any changes to the settings. Settings (nvidia control panel, video settings in game etc etc). Feels like that shouldn't be something you need to apply to get the GPU to 100% when it needs to.