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Budget (including currency): 600 EUR (with keyboard, mouse, speakers and monitor)

Country: Italy

Part List

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/p27wyg

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€90.26 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€62.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€33.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 256 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€20.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 1 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€44.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: PowerColor ITX Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB Video Card  (€167.30 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PF400 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€41.20 @ Amazon Italia) 
Monitor: HP LA2205wg 22.0" 1680 x 1050 Monitor  (€59.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Keyboard: V7 KU200US Wired Standard Keyboard  (€13.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Mouse: V7 Full size USB Optical Mouse Wired Optical Mouse  (€6.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Speakers: Creative Labs Pebble 2.0 4.4 W Speakers  (€19.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €599.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

Mostly will be used for some lightweight gaming, office work and streaming. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, framarino2008 said:

Budget (including currency): 600 EUR (with keyboard, mouse, speakers and monitor)

Country: Italy

Part List

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/p27wyg

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€90.26 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€62.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€33.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 256 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€20.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: Western Digital AV-GP 1 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€44.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: PowerColor ITX Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB Video Card  (€167.30 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PF400 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€41.20 @ Amazon Italia) 
Monitor: HP LA2205wg 22.0" 1680 x 1050 Monitor  (€59.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Keyboard: V7 KU200US Wired Standard Keyboard  (€13.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Mouse: V7 Full size USB Optical Mouse Wired Optical Mouse  (€6.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Speakers: Creative Labs Pebble 2.0 4.4 W Speakers  (€19.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €599.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

Mostly will be used for some lightweight gaming, office work and streaming. 

 

 

How much does an ROG Ally cost in your region?

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Get 2x8GB sticks of RAM. Single channel memory is a performance crippler.

 

What would it cost to get a single 500/512GB or 1TB NVMe compared to the 256GB one the spinning rust HDD?

 

If at all possible I would try to fit an RX 6600 in the budget over the 6500 XT.

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Just now, Agall said:

How much does an ROG Ally cost in your region?

Honestly IDK... I really want to build it myself though... Is it possible for the price? I really don't mind the crappy monitor, keyboard, mouse or speakers

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Just now, Middcore said:

Get 2x8GB sticks of RAM. Single channel memory is a performance crippler.

 

What would it cost to get a single 500/512GB or 1TB NVMe compared to the 256GB one the spinning rust HDD?

 

If at all possible I would try to fit an RX 6600 in the budget over the 6500 XT.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/gn2kWt

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€90.26 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€62.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€39.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: PowerColor ITX Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB Video Card  (€167.30 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PF400 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€41.20 @ Amazon Italia) 
Monitor: HP LA2205wg 22.0" 1680 x 1050 Monitor  (€59.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Keyboard: V7 KU200US Wired Standard Keyboard  (€13.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Mouse: V7 Full size USB Optical Mouse Wired Optical Mouse  (€6.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Speakers: Creative Labs Pebble 2.0 4.4 W Speakers  (€19.98 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €597.81
 

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Just now, framarino2008 said:

Honestly IDK... I really want to build it myself though... Is it possible for the price? I really don't mind the crappy monitor, keyboard, mouse or speakers

Just running into the scenario where the budget is likely too low for a whole setup. A 4500 and 6500 XT is at that tier where you'd be better off saving another 100-200 to spend more overall and get substantially more performance for a disproportionate amount more money.

 

In general, the way PC part pricing works is that there's a minimum price, a price/performance inflection point, then the absolute maximum price+performance. The performance gains between the minimum and price/performance inflection point is substantial, where $30 more for the GPU could be double the performance, like comparing an RX 6500 XT to an RX 6600.

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1 minute ago, Agall said:

Just running into the scenario where the budget is likely too low for a whole setup. A 4500 and 6500 XT is at that tier where you'd be better off saving another 100-200 to spend more overall and get substantially more performance for a disproportionate amount more money.

 

In general, the way PC part pricing works is that there's a minimum price, a price/performance inflection point, then the absolute maximum price+performance. The performance gains between the minimum and price/performance inflection point is substantial, where $30 more for the GPU could be double the performance, like comparing an RX 6500 XT to an RX 6600.

Oh I see... So I should use the whole of the 600 EUR for the PC?

 

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2 minutes ago, framarino2008 said:

Oh I see... So I should use the whole of the 600 EUR for the PC?

 

You'd likely be able to an R5 5600 and RX 6600 with a bit of flexibility in the budget, even withing 600 EUR. I'd give that a shot and see how you can fit it. That'll at least have potential in the future, even if its for resale. The latter parts are just not worth the $ in 2023, especially new.

 

RX 6500 XT is really not a gaming GPU, if that helps.

Ryzen 7950x3D PBO +200MHz / -15mV curve CPPC in 'prefer cache'

RTX 4090 @133%/+230/+1000

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PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/jRFPQP

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€112.24 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€62.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€39.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€244.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PF400 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€41.20 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €596.53
 

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1 minute ago, Agall said:

You'd likely be able to an R5 5600 and RX 6600 with a bit of flexibility in the budget, even withing 600 EUR. I'd give that a shot and see how you can fit it. That'll at least have potential in the future, even if its for resale. The latter parts are just not worth the $ in 2023, especially new.

 

RX 6500 XT is really not a gaming GPU, if that helps.

Oh I see... Thanks for the advice

 

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5 minutes ago, framarino2008 said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/jRFPQP

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€112.24 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€62.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€39.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€244.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PF400 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€41.20 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €596.53
 

That's a lot better, how much more is the 5600 in your region? There's quite a difference between the chips since the R5 5500 is a different type of CPU compared to the R5 5600. R5 5500 isn't bad, but if the 5600 is only a few EURO more, it might be worth it.

 

Otherwise, this is solid, +50% more performance conservatively. 

Ryzen 7950x3D PBO +200MHz / -15mV curve CPPC in 'prefer cache'

RTX 4090 @133%/+230/+1000

Builder/Enthusiast/Overclocker since 2012  //  Professional since 2017

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1 hour ago, framarino2008 said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/jRFPQP

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€112.24 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€62.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€39.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€244.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PF400 230V 400 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€41.20 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €596.53
 

Not too bad, but an i3 12100 will be better for gaming

And really get a better PSU

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€99.05 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B660M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€98.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€39.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€55.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  (€244.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Aerocool CS-1102 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€40.29 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€57.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €635.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-12-04 18:15 CET+0100

 

System : AMD R9 5900X / Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO/ 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600CL18 ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Eisbaer 280mm AIO (with 2xArctic P14 fans) / 2TB Crucial T500  NVme + 2TB WD SN850 NVme + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD drives/ Corsair RM850x PSU/  Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / Logitech G915TKL keyboard (wireless) / Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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