Advice for new system needed

LauriHimself · November 6, 2023

Budget (including currency): 2300€

Country: Austria

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly gaming

hey there =)

so i was recently tasked with specing and building a pc for a friend.

for around 2300€ i could get him either a system with

7800x3d + 7900XTX (2240€ total system cost)

or

13700K (or 7800x3d) + 4070Ti (2160€ total system cost with the 13700k)

all other components being about the same.

he prefers Nvidia over Radeon, but is open for AMD

is there anything negative about the 7900XTX why you wouldn't reccommend it? besides lesser raytracing performance?

for the moment he will game on his 1080p display, but will upgrade to 1440p high refresh rate when chistmans rolls around, so in 2 month.

he wants the rig to last as long as possible without being obsolete.

a 4080 would cost about 400€ more than a 3070Ti or 200€more than a 7900XTX, so being budget restrained its not really an option without segnificantly cutting back on cpu or mobo cost

ty for your advice

Tetras · November 6, 2023

Definitely the first one, XTX is well worth 80 euro extra, since it is much better than the Ti and the CPU more suited for a gaming build than the 13700K (which is good for a mixed or mainly productivity build).

LauriHimself · November 6, 2023

14 minutes ago, Tetras said:

XTX

is there any strong argument that could be made against the 7900XTX?

Tetras · November 6, 2023

7 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

is there any strong argument that could be made against the 7900XTX?

You identified the main one already, the RT performance. If they do stuff other than gaming it may also matter, e.g. 3D productivity performance isn't the best (more here).

The Hope · November 7, 2023

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (€324.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING SE-226-XT 68.2 CFM CPU Cooler (€40.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Biostar B760A-SILVER ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€132.90 @ Alza)
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card (€966.90 @ Alza)
Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case (€119.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G12 GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€109.90 @ Alza)
Case Fan: ARCTIC F14 Silent 46 CFM 140 mm Fan

My observations regarding ray tracing: many Nvidia users usually disable it to get higher performance. Furthermore, many posts can also be found from Nvidia users who claim to disable ray tracing because they find it less attractive in style. (More realistic is not necessarily prettier)

I also think higher specs than my build are overkill for 1440p gaming. This build is normally minimum 8 years future proof for most games.

A faster SSD may be useful to load games even faster, but this SSD is already fast.

Blind tests have proven that 99% of people don't see any difference between 80fps and 240fps. So 80fps is the point that higher frame rate no longer has any effect.