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In terms of price to performance, the RX 6650XT is the best value card right now on the market - bar none. There actually isn't a better card in terms of cost per frame available from AMD, Nvidia, or Intel.

 

Here's the chart from Hardware Unboxed's RX 7600 review:

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If you take the current prices of any other card, and compare it to the $220 of the RX 6650XT, you'll see that they all fall short.

 

In terms of Intel cards, the Intel Arc A580 is slower than even the RX 6600. The A750 is the same price, while also being slower than the 6650XT - the A770 is the card that trades blows with the 6650XT.

 

So your assessment is accurate. The RX 6650XT is the best bang for the buck card on the market right now - at least as far as non-used cards are concerned. And I also agree that it would be a decent pairing with an i5 10600K.

 

If you need the pull the trigger right now, and value for money is the most important thing for you, then it's probably the way to go.

With the 6600 at $190, the 6605XT at $220 and the 6700 at $280...  I'm looking to stay around $200 roughly.

 

I'm thinking the 6650XT is the current card to watch to upgrade Raven in my sig.  Checking to see if I am missing something.

 

I figure the 10600K is still a decent CPU for 1080p and will  be a good pair with the 6650XT for games like Ark Ascended (if they fix their shit) and others.

 

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I'd look for a black friday discount on a 7600 or 4060, they all perform similarly, but the newer cards have a better feature set which might come in handy later.

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In terms of price to performance, the RX 6650XT is the best value card right now on the market - bar none. There actually isn't a better card in terms of cost per frame available from AMD, Nvidia, or Intel.

 

Here's the chart from Hardware Unboxed's RX 7600 review:

image.thumb.png.07fed8e8ec8f4d8bf03f535e32685d9d.png

 

If you take the current prices of any other card, and compare it to the $220 of the RX 6650XT, you'll see that they all fall short.

 

In terms of Intel cards, the Intel Arc A580 is slower than even the RX 6600. The A750 is the same price, while also being slower than the 6650XT - the A770 is the card that trades blows with the 6650XT.

 

So your assessment is accurate. The RX 6650XT is the best bang for the buck card on the market right now - at least as far as non-used cards are concerned. And I also agree that it would be a decent pairing with an i5 10600K.

 

If you need the pull the trigger right now, and value for money is the most important thing for you, then it's probably the way to go.

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On 11/1/2023 at 8:33 PM, Dedayog said:

With the 6600 at $190, the 6605XT at $220 and the 6700 at $280...  I'm looking to stay around $200 roughly.

 

I'm thinking the 6650XT is the current card to watch to upgrade Raven in my sig.  Checking to see if I am missing something.

 

I figure the 10600K is still a decent CPU for 1080p and will  be a good pair with the 6650XT for games like Ark Ascended (if they fix their shit) and others.

 

Raven:  Intel i5 10600K - ASRock H410M-HDV - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2666Mhz - Zotac GTX1070 AMP - Inland 256GB SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27"

You could get a used 5700 xt for 150 bucks and then upgrade your psu since a 450w psu is kinda low (at least for some more upgrades down the line) 

I'd personally get the 5700 xt if you wanna upgrade the psu but the 6650 xt is defo the best new choice IMO

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21 minutes ago, filpo said:

You could get a used 5700 xt for 150 bucks and then upgrade your psu since a 450w psu is kinda low (at least for some more upgrades down the line) 

I'd personally get the 5700 xt if you wanna upgrade the psu but the 6650 xt is defo the best new choice IMO

That's a viable path.  I need to compare the 5700XT vs the 1070 she already has in the machine.

 

I agree on the PSU.  I wasn't planning on a full upgrade but screw it 🙂

 

 

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Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

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Just now, Dedayog said:

I wasn't planning on a full upgrade but screw it 🙂

you honestly don't need to upgrade the psu, it's just something I would personally do. But a 6650 xt/5700 xt on a 450w psu should be fine. I'd say try first, and if it isn't then get a newer/high wattage psu

 

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

I need to compare the 5700XT vs the 1070 she already has in the machine.

the 5700 xt is worse than the 6650 xt by about 15% or 20% (62 fps vs 50 fps). However it is older so will most likely lose driver support earlier. (btw cyberpunk is where the 5700 xt struggles so if that's one of the games your daughter plays then probably steer away from it)

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1 minute ago, filpo said:

you honestly don't need to upgrade the psu, it's just something I would personally do. But a 6650 xt/5700 xt on a 450w psu should be fine. I'd say try first, and if it isn't then get a newer/high wattage psu

 

the 5700 xt is worse than the 6650 xt by about 15% or 20% (62 fps vs 50 fps). However it is older so will most likely lose driver support earlier. (btw cyberpunk is where the 5700 xt struggles so if that's one of the games your daughter plays then probably steer away from it)

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Thanks, bud.  She won't play Cyberpunk but she'll play Ark Ascended and a few other not as demanding games like Roblox, Minecraft, may get into Starfield and possibly BG3 for now.    

 

So I think a 5600x3d and 6650XT will be a fantastic midrange setup.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

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Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

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OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

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- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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On 11/1/2023 at 8:33 PM, Dedayog said:

With the 6600 at $190, the 6605XT at $220 and the 6700 at $280...  I'm looking to stay around $200 roughly.

 

I'm thinking the 6650XT is the current card to watch to upgrade Raven in my sig.  Checking to see if I am missing something.

 

I figure the 10600K is still a decent CPU for 1080p and will  be a good pair with the 6650XT for games like Ark Ascended (if they fix their shit) and others.

 

Raven:  Intel i5 10600K - ASRock H410M-HDV - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2666Mhz - Zotac GTX1070 AMP - Inland 256GB SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27"

Just so you know despite what game developers would have you believe resolution is almost completely irrelevant when it comes to CPU usage.

 

Infact the lower the resolution the more work the CPU will do just because your GPU will be able to produce more frames.

 

It's one of the reasons someone on say a 4070 might opt for a 7800X3D for 1080p or 7700X for 1440p as an example.

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