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[iVirtuall]

Budget (including currency): $800 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft. Forza Horizon 5 csgo 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 60hz 1080p hoping to upgarade to monitor at later date so would like it to play at 1080p 144hz

 

[filpo]

Just now, iVirtuall said:

Budget (including currency): $800 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft. Forza Horizon 5 csgo 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 60hz 1080p hoping to upgarade to monitor at later date so would like it to play at 1080p 144hz

 

Try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.00 @ JW Computers) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($55.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($299.00 @ Scorptec) 
Case: Antec NX200M MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.87 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $811.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 19:01 AEDT+1100

[QuantumSingularity]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

Try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.00 @ JW Computers) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($55.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($299.00 @ Scorptec) 
Case: Antec NX200M MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.87 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $811.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 19:01 AEDT+1100

This is probably as close as you can get to buying new. What i'd do if i was you, i'd try to find a 2nd hand combo with Ryzen 5600(X) + B450/B550 motherboard + memory for less than $200 or try to source them indivually for that price. Probably the only thing i'd try to buy new is the GPU and will go for the RX 7600. But 5600 vs 3600, there is an enormous uplift in IPC and performance, so Ryzen 5000 CPU is certainly a must.

[iVirtuall]

20 minutes ago, filpo said:

Try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.00 @ JW Computers) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($55.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($299.00 @ Scorptec) 
Case: Antec NX200M MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.87 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $811.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 19:01 AEDT+1100

isn't the cpu a bit on the low end i want to run something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSEkkmwjhW8&ab_channel=draconix

[filpo]

1 minute ago, QuantumSingularity said:

so Ryzen 5000 CPU is certainly a must.

Problem is there aren't really any used 5600s and the only ones with coolers that are buy it nows are about 240 aud (which is about the same as new)

 

Also for gaming it's not a 'must'. It's just better to have. But with a 6600 I wouldn't worry too much

[QuantumSingularity]

3 minutes ago, iVirtuall said:

isn't the cpu a bit on the low end i want to run something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSEkkmwjhW8&ab_channel=draconix

With that budget sadly, you don't have a lot of choice.

 

1 minute ago, filpo said:

Problem is there aren't really any used 5600s and the only ones with coolers that are buy it nows are about 240 aud (which is about the same as new)

 

Also for gaming it's not a 'must'. It's just better to have. But with a 6600 I wouldn't worry too much

I jumped from 3700X to 5600X and the uplift in gaming was SUBSTANTIAL. I could only imagine the leap from 3600 to 5600X... actually i don't have to imagine it. Here are all the generation compared.

 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, iVirtuall said:

isn't the cpu a bit on the low end i want to run something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSEkkmwjhW8&ab_channel=draconix

If you're ok with getting a used gpu like this one for $220 aud MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT MECH OC 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card (RX-5700-XT-MECH-OC) 824142194478 | eBay

Then you can get a 5600 and a b550 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($55.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Case: Antec NX200M MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.87 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.00 @ Centre Com) 
Custom: 5700 XT ($220.00)
Total: $806.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 19:37 AEDT+1100

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, QuantumSingularity said:

With that budget sadly, you don't have a lot of choice.

 

I jumped from 3700X to 5600X and the uplift in gaming was SUBSTANTIAL. I could only imagine the leap from 3600 to 5600X... actually i don't have to imagine it. Here are all the generation compared.

 

i agree but I'd defo consider a used GPU @iVirtuall

[iVirtuall]

Just now, filpo said:

i agree but I'd defo consider a used GPU @iVirtuall

I'd rahter go brand new and with nvidia 

[iVirtuall]

Just now, iVirtuall said:

I'd rahter go brand new and with nvidia 

sorry for bad spelling just recovering from a head injury 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, iVirtuall said:

I'd rahter go brand new and with nvidia 

Then the best you can get is a 1650 which I really wouldn't recommend. I'd really consider going with the used 5700 xt Asus Phoenix OC GeForce GTX 1650 G6 4 GB Video Card (PH-GTX1650-O4GD6-P) - PCPartPicker

1 minute ago, iVirtuall said:

sorry for bad spelling just recovering from a head injury 

No need to apologise. I can almost guarantee my spelling to be as bad or worse  

[iVirtuall]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

Then the best you can get is a 1650 which I really wouldn't recommend. I'd really consider going with the used 5700 xt Asus Phoenix OC GeForce GTX 1650 G6 4 GB Video Card (PH-GTX1650-O4GD6-P) - PCPartPicker

No need to apologise. I can almost guarantee my spelling to be as bad or worse  

thanks for the advice. Love the thing at the bottom fps - higher is better 

[QuantumSingularity]

Damn... i have a whole new appreciation for our shitty economy. USED 5700XT for 220 AUD ?!?!?! Dafyq ?!?!? 

7 minutes ago, iVirtuall said:

I'd rahter go brand new and with nvidia 

Buddy, with a total budget of 800 AUD most new nVidia GPU exceed the entire budget. The only thing new you can fit from nvidia in that budget is a GTX 1650 with DDR5. Everything else is out of budget and even if the 3060 was within it, it gets its ass absolutely destroyed even by the RX 6600, for almost half the price.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, QuantumSingularity said:

it gets its ass absolutely destroyed even by the RX 6600

they match but the 6600 is defo better value

 

2 minutes ago, QuantumSingularity said:

most new nVidia GPU exceed the entire budget. The only thing new you can fit from nvidia in that budget is a GTX 1650 with DDR5

yeah nvidia aren't really up to it in the budget new market 

[PDifolco]

2 hours ago, iVirtuall said:

Budget (including currency): $800 AUD

Country: Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft. Forza Horizon 5 csgo 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 60hz 1080p hoping to upgarade to monitor at later date so would like it to play at 1080p 144hz

 

Just a tad over budget, only new parts and will game better than a Ryzen 3000

Don't get a NVidia card, at this budget you'll get crap, and the 6600 is a quite good card with stable drivers (not like the arc ones..)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.00 @ Computer Alliance) 
Motherboard: ASRock B660M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($55.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($299.00 @ Scorptec) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($55.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Power Supply: ADATA XPG PYLON 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($65.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Total: $812.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-13 21:29 AEDT+1100

[QuantumSingularity]

Yeah... Ryzen 3000 or Zen 2 was the answer to Intel's upcoming 10th gen Comet Lake CPUs. Comparing it to 2 generations newer CPUs, the value isn't actually there. But it is respectable for 2 years older CPU to still hold its own. It's crazy to think that a CPU all the way from 2019 is still capable of competing with semi-modern stuff. What is even crazier - in the span of 4 years AMD launched just 3 generations of CPUs Ryzen 3000, 5000 and 7000 series. In the same amount of time intel went through 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th and now coming to 14th gen CPUs. Absolutely mental stuff. Talking about planned obsolescence they make even Apple ashamed.