price to performance gpu

[Shailesh Vats]

planning to get  a used gpu for my upcoming 12400f  build, 650w psu, my max budget for gpu can go around for like 400$

these are some of the available gpu in my area

rtx 3080 - 397$

rtx 3070ti - 325$

rtx 3070 - 289$

rx 6700xt - 276$

gtx 1080ti - 168$

 idk which of them are the most value for my money

[filpo]

Just now, Shailesh Vats said:

planning to get  a used gpu for my upcoming 12400f  build, 650w psu, my max budget for gpu can go around for like 400$

these are some of the available gpu in my area

rtx 3080 - 397$

rtx 3070ti - 325$

rtx 3070 - 289$

rx 6700xt - 276$

gtx 1080ti - 168$

 idk which of them are the most value for my money

Is this at 1080p? I'd say the best gpu I would get for 1080p is the 6700 xt or the 1080 ti. But if it's as high as 4k then I'd get the 3080, but only if it were 4k or 'maybe' 1440p. The 6700 xt and 1080 ti would also do good at 1440p

I wouldn't recommend the 3070/ti as they both only have 8 gigs of vram and that's not cutting it for today's standards

 

But if you're gonna get a 6700 xt I'd get a new one since they're only like 35/40 bucks more

[Shailesh Vats]

11 minutes ago, filpo said:

Is this at 1080p? I'd say the best gpu I would get for 1080p is the 6700 xt or the 1080 ti. But if it's as high as 4k then I'd get the 3080, but only if it were 4k or 'maybe' 1440p. The 6700 xt and 1080 ti would also do good at 1440p

I wouldn't recommend the 3070/ti as they both only have 8 gigs of vram and that's not cutting it for today's standards

 

But if you're gonna get a 6700 xt I'd get a new one since they're only like 35/40 bucks more

new 6700xt cost the same as used 3080 here, and i can go as max as 1440p or i will save some money on monitor and get a buying a 1080p monitor and get a 3080 instead, i am not planning on upgrading my pc for next 4 to 5 years, and will mainly use it to for games and learn aiml

 

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

new 6700xt cost the same as used 3080 here, and i can go as max as 1440p or i will save some money on monitor and get a buying a 1080p monitor and get a 3080 instead, i am not planning on upgrading my pc for next 4 to 5 years, and will mainly use it to for games and learn aiml

 

A 3080 will defo be bottlenecked from a 3080 and does aiml use nvidia gpus for acceleration? If so then get a 3070 but if not then get a used 6700 xt

[venomtail]

46 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

planning to get  a used gpu for my upcoming 12400f  build, 650w psu, my max budget for gpu can go around for like 400$

these are some of the available gpu in my area

rtx 3080 - 397$

rtx 3070ti - 325$

rtx 3070 - 289$

rx 6700xt - 276$

gtx 1080ti - 168$

 idk which of them are the most value for my money

1. 6700XT -  Best value
2. 1080TI - Cheap, 5700XT territory
3. 3070TI
4. 3080
5. 3070 - Just awkwardly priced. Spend near $300 might as well spend the bit extra for TI or spend less getting the 6700XT sometimes even losing to it.

6700XT and 3070TI super close.

Also haven't mentioned which models, AIB's. They make a difference.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 hour ago, Shailesh Vats said:

planning to get  a used gpu for my upcoming 12400f  build, 650w psu, my max budget for gpu can go around for like 400$

these are some of the available gpu in my area

rtx 3080 - 397$

rtx 3070ti - 325$

rtx 3070 - 289$

rx 6700xt - 276$

gtx 1080ti - 168$

 idk which of them are the most value for my money

Any chance of a 6800XT in your budget?

I agree with @venomtail, 6700XT's 12GB of Vram make it by far the best deal for traditional (non raytraced) gaming.

[Shailesh Vats]

4 hours ago, venomtail said:

1. 6700XT -  Best value
2. 1080TI - Cheap, 5700XT territory
3. 3070TI
4. 3080
5. 3070 - Just awkwardly priced. Spend near $300 might as well spend the bit extra for TI or spend less getting the 6700XT sometimes even losing to it.

6700XT and 3070TI super close.

Also haven't mentioned which models, AIB's. They make a difference.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6xh689

this is my build rn, want to build a every penny worth pc,and some upgradability as i might upgrade to 14th gen cpu after 2 or 3 yrs

my budget can go as high as 965$

the pricing is indian in the list

 

here are the gpu links with their full name and pricing is indian so you may have to convert it

https://computify.in/categories/used-graphics-card

 

[venomtail]

30 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6xh689

this is my build rn, want to build a every penny worth pc,and some upgradability as i might upgrade to 14th gen cpu after 2 or 3 yrs

my budget can go as high as 965$

the pricing is indian in the list

 

here are the gpu links with their full name and pricing is indian so you may have to convert it

https://computify.in/categories/used-graphics-card

 

I wouldn't class this as a 14th gen capable system. I don't think a B660 will ever be compatible with 14th gen Intel. We don't know bios support, VRAM capacity and even if it'll have DDR4 support. Just look forwards to topping out at 13th gen, 13600KF would be a great sendoff.

 

Making a 14th gen ready system before we even know a thing about 14th gen is the wrong way to start the foundations. 

[Shailesh Vats]

34 minutes ago, venomtail said:

I wouldn't class this as a 14th gen capable system. I don't think a B660 will ever be compatible with 14th gen Intel. We don't know bios support, VRAM capacity and even if it'll have DDR4 support. Just look forwards to topping out at 13th gen, 13600KF would be a great sendoff.

 

Making a 14th gen ready system before we even know a thing about 14th gen is the wrong way to start the foundations. 

thanks i was a bit delusional ig, my build is almost complete the only thing i am stuck at is should i go with a 3080 or 6700xt ,for 3080 i might have to cut some prices on ram, monitor and cabinet( will buy ram after 2 or 3 months) and 6700xt build is just perfect, ah shiii i am more confused than before

 

just tell me which gpu should i go with  as i will not be upgrading that for next 5 years, and depending upon that should i go with a 1080p monitor or a 1440p one

 

 

[venomtail]

13 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

thanks i was a bit delusional ig, my build is almost complete the only thing i am stuck at is should i go with a 3080 or 6700xt ,for 3080 i might have to cut some prices on ram, monitor and cabinet( will buy ram after 2 or 3 months) and 6700xt build is just perfect, ah shiii i am more confused than before

 

just tell me which gpu should i go with  as i will not be upgrading that for next 5 years, and depending upon that should i go with a 1080p monitor or a 1440p one

 

 

Loaded question. I've no idea what you plan to play, at what resolution, at what framerate, what desired fidelity, at which noise levels, if games will be supported in the long run and what features will retroactively be added and at what price you plan to get them.

 

If a 3080 is within biting distance of a 6700XT I might say it's worth it, because used NVIDIA cards often charge a huge premium (at least in NA and EU) compared to AMD to the point where they're far more terrible of a deal.

[Gohardgrandpa]

40 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

thanks i was a bit delusional ig, my build is almost complete the only thing i am stuck at is should i go with a 3080 or 6700xt ,for 3080 i might have to cut some prices on ram, monitor and cabinet( will buy ram after 2 or 3 months) and 6700xt build is just perfect, ah shiii i am more confused than before

 

just tell me which gpu should i go with  as i will not be upgrading that for next 5 years, and depending upon that should i go with a 1080p monitor or a 1440p one

 

 

Your gpu will last longer at 1080p, I wouldn’t even consider 1440p for what you’re trying to do here. 
Buy the strongest gpu you can since you want to stretch this system for a long time. 

[Shailesh Vats]

21 hours ago, venomtail said:

I wouldn't class this as a 14th gen capable system. I don't think a B660 will ever be compatible with 14th gen Intel. We don't know bios support, VRAM capacity and even if it'll have DDR4 support. Just look forwards to topping out at 13th gen, 13600KF would be a great sendoff.

 

Making a 14th gen ready system before we even know a thing about 14th gen is the wrong way to start the foundations. 

1 more thing 

should i go with budget/cheap z690 if i ever have to jump to 13600kf or my b660m a will be sufficient?

 

[venomtail]

54 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

1 more thing 

should i go with budget/cheap z690 if i ever have to jump to 13600kf or my b660m a will be sufficient?

 

Z boards stand for their ability to allow overclocking. I don't think it's worth it. Not that many people overclock anymore. A solid B660 board should be the go to pick, will do everything you need, even be able to handle an i9 if VRM cooling is sufficient.

[Shailesh Vats]

17 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Z boards stand for their ability to allow overclocking. I don't think it's worth it. Not that many people overclock anymore. A solid B660 board should be the go to pick, will do everything you need, even be able to handle an i9 if VRM cooling is sufficient.

is msi pro b660m a sufficient for i5 12400f and even 13600kf ? or is there a better option

 

[venomtail]

11 minutes ago, Shailesh Vats said:

is msi pro b660m a sufficient for i5 12400f and even 13600kf ? or is there a better option

 

It'll suffice but I'd get something a tad bit better. With M-A you'll just have to ensure with a powerful enough processor you'll need good enough cold airflow over vrm's. Might be ok for 13600K but i9 might be too much.

I trust Buildzoid with his word all the way.

[Shailesh Vats]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

It'll suffice but I'd get something a tad bit better. With M-A you'll just have to ensure with a powerful enough processor you'll need good enough cold airflow over vrm's.

I trust Buildzoid with his word all the way.

getting a  ap201 case which is just all mesh and no glass, and its matx case so i dont think its gonna have any problem with airflow

btw 

and yeh he said msi pro ma is good enough

i would get a mortar if necessary

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3FxGL9

is this build fine, if i were to upgrade to 13600kf later

like will my 650 w psu wil be fine?

 

[venomtail]

1 hour ago, Shailesh Vats said:

getting a  ap201 case which is just all mesh and no glass, and its matx case so i dont think its gonna have any problem with airflow

btw 

and yeh he said msi pro ma is good enough

i would get a mortar if necessary

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3FxGL9

is this build fine, if i were to upgrade to 13600kf later

like will my 650 w psu wil be fine?

 

Personally I'd go with 750W minimum (I have 750W) and 850W would be comfy for any future GPU upgrade.

[Shailesh Vats]

12 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Personally I'd go with 750W minimum (I have 750W) and 850W would be comfy for any future GPU upgrade.

nah if i ever to upgrade anything after 3080 then that will be processor and adding ram

[venomtail]

1 hour ago, Shailesh Vats said:

nah if i ever to upgrade anything after 3080 then that will be processor and adding ram

If you're choosing to go with an 3080 after all it's known for transient spiking. 650W is like 90% of ur GPU + the spike. I'd sleep better with a 850W, maybe sleep rough with a 750W PSU.

[Shailesh Vats]

18 hours ago, venomtail said:

If you're choosing to go with an 3080 after all it's known for transient spiking. 650W is like 90% of ur GPU + the spike. I'd sleep better with a 850W, maybe sleep rough with a 750W PSU.

so is it better to get any other gpu from above list  or upgrading my psu wil solve all the problem?

i just dont want any problem next several yrs of my college

or i am just building my pc in a wrong time and i should wait some more months

are you on discord or somewhere else, i want to talk  a lot about this

[venomtail]

11 hours ago, Shailesh Vats said:

so is it better to get any other gpu from above list  or upgrading my psu wil solve all the problem?

Either or. If you get something like a 3070TI 650W will be fine. If you get 850W PSU a 3080 will be fine. Cross check against the PSU tier list if the 850W you plan to get is anything decent.

 

11 hours ago, Shailesh Vats said:

i just dont want any problem next several yrs of my college

That depends on what you plan to play and sort of our control. We're at the mercy of devs to optimise their games

 

11 hours ago, Shailesh Vats said:

or i am just building my pc in a wrong time and i should wait some more months

In a sense there is never a "right" time to buy a PC cause something new is always around the corner. When you buy whatever you do, just enjoy it.

[Shailesh Vats]

3 hours ago, venomtail said:

Either or. If you get something like a 3070TI 650W will be fine. If you get 850W PSU a 3080 will be fine. Cross check against the PSU tier list if the 850W you plan to get is anything decent.

 

That depends on what you plan to play and sort of our control. We're at the mercy of devs to optimise their games

 

In a sense there is never a "right" time to buy a PC cause something new is always around the corner. When you buy whatever you do, just enjoy it.

thank a lot for helping me this much

 

so

a 12400f with 3070ti and 650w build cost me around - 898$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gm28rv

 

a 12400f with 3080 and 850w - 992$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j4ZJMV

 

and a 12400f with 6700xt - 826.89$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6MWtn6

 

i made some of these builds after reading ur suggestions, what do you think will be a better choice for me

you can update anything you want in these builds, the 992$ build is the highest i can go after that i will mostly spend on some fans

and rest will go on a 1440p monitor if it comes cheap 180$ and if not then a 100$ 1080p monitor

[venomtail]

15 hours ago, Shailesh Vats said:

thank a lot for helping me this much

 

so

a 12400f with 3070ti and 650w build cost me around - 898$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gm28rv

 

a 12400f with 3080 and 850w - 992$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j4ZJMV

 

and a 12400f with 6700xt - 826.89$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6MWtn6

 

i made some of these builds after reading ur suggestions, what do you think will be a better choice for me

you can update anything you want in these builds, the 992$ build is the highest i can go after that i will mostly spend on some fans

and rest will go on a 1440p monitor if it comes cheap 180$ and if not then a 100$ 1080p monitor

12400f with 6700xt - 826.89$ is my go to pick. 3070TI for near $75 for extra 0-10 frames? 10fps in NVIDIA titles.

Thing is, I think all 3 of these GPU's will age badly, lack of VRAM will age like milk. 3070TI has the least with 8GB, 3080 with 10GB and then 6700XT has the most with 12GB, then 1080p maybe might suffice with NVIDIA cards but 1440p especially 4k will start struggling far in future games. Add Raytracing to the mix and its need for VRAM, gonna get ugly.

I'd rather save the $200 now from the 3080 or 3070TI and be able to save up sooner and faster for GPU's like the 5070 and 8800XT in a year or two. Not like your PC will struggle to play the latest games with a 12400 and 6700XT anyway. Just enjoy it now and the upgrade will come sooner.

[venomtail]

6 hours ago, Shailesh Vats said:

thank a lot for helping me this much

 

so

a 12400f with 3070ti and 650w build cost me around - 898$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gm28rv

 

a 12400f with 3080 and 850w - 992$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j4ZJMV

 

and a 12400f with 6700xt - 826.89$

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6MWtn6

 

i made some of these builds after reading ur suggestions, what do you think will be a better choice for me

you can update anything you want in these builds, the 992$ build is the highest i can go after that i will mostly spend on some fans

and rest will go on a 1440p monitor if it comes cheap 180$ and if not then a 100$ 1080p monitor

 

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

12400f with 6700xt - 826.89$ is my go to pick. 3070TI for near $75 for extra 0-14 frames? 10fps in NVIDIA titles.

Thing is, I think all 3 of these GPU's will age badly, lack of VRAM will age like milk. 3070TI has the least with 8GB, 3080 with 10GB and then 6700XT has the most with 12GB, then 1080p maybe might suffice with NVIDIA cards but 1440p especially 4k will start stuggling far in future games. Add Raytracing to the mix and its need for VRAM, gonna get ugly.

I'd rather save the $200 now from the 3080 or 3070TI and be able to save up sooner and faster for GPU's like the 5070 and 8800XT in a year or two. Not like your PC will struggle to play the latest games with a 12400 and 6700XT anyway. Just enjoy it now and the upgrade will come sooner.

TLDR: 6700XT would be the smarter long term buy, you'll already have money set aside for future upgrade than if you spent now or if you went with 3070TI you'd get better short term results right now.

[Shailesh Vats]

awesome then i will be going with your advice

the last 3 doubts

 

1. should i go with a 1080p monitor or 1440p , i dont like competitive games that much mainly fps story games

 

 

2. Msi Pro B660m-a (non wifi) cost me (168$)

and wifi one costs (180$)

 

Msi b660m Mortar (wifi) costs around (216$)

 which of these will be more suitable for this pc and future processor or gpu upgrades

 

3. there are 3 variants i am getting for 6700xt with all of them having 1 yr brand warranty, which one should i choose

ASUS TUF Radeon RX 6700 XT OC Edition 12GB GDDR6

 

https://computify.in/products/asus-tuf-radeon-rx-6700-xt-oc-edition-12gb-gddr6?sku_id=46338768

 

Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 6700 XT ELITE 12GB GDDR6

 

https://computify.in/products/gigabyte-aorus-radeon-rx-6700-xt-elite-12gb-gddr6?sku_id=46338973

 

Gigabyte Radeon RX 6700 XT GAMING OC 12GB GDDR6

 

https://computify.in/products/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6700-xt-gaming-oc-12gb-gddr6?sku_id=46339306

 

i have few more doubts like which cpu fans should i choose and is my cabinet good enough or i should get another one and my wd sn770 is a good choice?