Advice on build & recommendations

[RichardStones]

Budget (including currency): 1000€ - 3000€

Country: Czech Republic

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: MTGA, SC2, LoL, TFT, Dota2, Youtube/general browsing, machine learning/programming/PyCharm, the occasional AAA game (I'd like to try Baldurs Gate 3)

Other details 
Got a lot of good advice on previous post: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1530261-update-or-replace-gaming-pc/

Wanted to get some advice & recommendations on a concrete build.
My main issue is that I am undecided on the GPU, with two conflicting positions. On one hand, I would like to relatively future-proof myself from getting a new build anytime soon. My current build is ~12yrs old and still works fine.
On the other hand, I don't game as much as I used to, and don't really go for many AAA games. The games used to benchmark most of the GPUs that I've watched on LTT or yt, were completely unfamiliar to me.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://cz.pcpartpicker.com/list/wcdGcH

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (11390.00Kč @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler  (3229.00Kč @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-H GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (9019.00Kč @ Alza) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory  (5099.00Kč @ Alza) 
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (3499.00Kč @ Alza) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (34790.00Kč @ Alza) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 520 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (1999.00Kč @ Alza) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (4899.00Kč @ Alza) 
Total: 73924.00Kč
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-12 09:00 CEST+0200

This is the highest I would go w.r.t. to the GPU, so I put the 4080 there. But I am also considering any from 4060, 4060Ti, 4070, 4070Ti. 
I've even gotten some comments that suggest getting a 30 generation card. 
Does this setup make sense?

The peripherals and monitor I am using are:
Monitor: Dell S3422DWG https://www.alza.cz/EN/34-dell-s3422dwg-d6622171.htm?evt=ac
Keyboard: Razer Ornata V2 https://www.alza.cz/EN/razer-ornata-v2-d6104407.htm?evt=ac
Mouse: Razer Ouroboros 

Thank you all for the help and suggestions!

 

[filpo]

1 hour ago, RichardStones said:

This is the highest I would go w.r.t. to the GPU, so I put the 4080 there. But I am also considering any from 4060, 4060Ti, 4070, 4070Ti. 
I've even gotten some comments that suggest getting a 30 generation card. 
Does this setup make sense?

Couldn't you go for a 4090 and a 13900k?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor  (15990.00Kč @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (2589.00Kč @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (5799.00Kč @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (1999.00Kč @ Alza) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (3199.00Kč @ Alza) 
Video Card: Inno3D X3 OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (42799.00Kč @ Alza) 
Case: be quiet! Shadow Base 800 ATX Mid Tower Case  (3589.00Kč @ Alza) 
Power Supply: MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (3879.00Kč @ Alza) 
Total: 79843.00Kč
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-12 10:12 CEST+0200

[RichardStones]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

Couldn't you go for a 4090 and a 13900k?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz 24-Core Processor  (15990.00Kč @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (2589.00Kč @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (5799.00Kč @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (1999.00Kč @ Alza) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (3199.00Kč @ Alza) 
Video Card: Inno3D X3 OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card  (42799.00Kč @ Alza) 
Case: be quiet! Shadow Base 800 ATX Mid Tower Case  (3589.00Kč @ Alza) 
Power Supply: MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (3879.00Kč @ Alza) 
Total: 79843.00Kč
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-12 10:12 CEST+0200

@filpo Hey, thanks for the comment.
To be honest, I wasn't able to make a build containing the 4090 that comes close to price to the build I posted here.
Additionally, I read that the i9 and 4090 require water cooling, in order to keep it working properly, and that it's much harder for maintenance. I don't know if this is true or not?


 

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

4090 require water coolin

the 4090 doesn't

 

3 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

I read that the i9

already put a 420 rad AIO on the i9

[RichardStones]

20 minutes ago, filpo said:

the 4090 doesn't

 

already put a 420 rad AIO on the i9

@filpo Hey, thanks again for the quick responses.
Can I pick your brain for a few more things, w.r.t. to the changes you made.

1. the Mobo is not DDR5 compatible. Is this a big performance loss? Will it somehow bottleneck the CPU and GPU. I somehow assumed that if I'll be shelling for premium parts, it makes sense to get DDR5 along with it.
2. The water cooling, will I need to change the water frequently? Or is this water cooling from years ago, I was looking into water cooling last time ~8 yrs ago.
3. There are many manufacturers for the GPU, how should I choose and pick? What's confusing is that the price may wary even 200 euros.
4. I saw that you upped the PSU to 1000W. Will I need a special cable for the GPU, as I read the 4090 needs only 600W

5. The SSD also went from 990 to 980. Is this a negligible difference? 

Once again, thanks for all the help!

Edit: Found the same Mobo with DDR5, but ~1500czk more expensive
https://www.alza.cz/EN/msi-mag-z790-tomahawk-wifi-d7487432.htm?o=1

[filpo]

38 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

the Mobo is not DDR5 compatible. Is this a big performance loss? Will it somehow bottleneck the CPU and GPU. I somehow assumed that if I'll be shelling for premium parts, it makes sense to get DDR5 along with it

no it's not a big performance loss at all

 

38 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

The water cooling, will I need to change the water frequently? Or is this water cooling from years ago, I was looking into water cooling last time ~8 yrs ago

No you don't as in AIO's the water doesn't evaporate and doesn't need to be refilled. The water would loop anyways so it wouldn't go to waste

 

39 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

There are many manufacturers for the GPU, how should I choose and pick? What's confusing is that the price may wary even 200 euros.

MSI's ventus is good but I'd go for mine

52 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

as I read the 4090 needs only 600W

It's better to have more for upgrades in the future

 

52 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

Will I need a special cable for the GPU

there's a pcie 5.0 cable in the box for the psu

53 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

Is this a negligible difference? 

yes since the 980 pro is already blazing fast

 

53 minutes ago, RichardStones said:

Edit: Found the same Mobo with DDR5, but ~1500czk more expensive
https://www.alza.cz/EN/msi-mag-z790-tomahawk-wifi-d7487432.htm?o=1

I'd still go with ddr4 but if you do want one with ddr5 just tell me