First Build Planning Advice (UK)

[samygiy]

Budget (including currency): £950 GBP

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I am planning to use it for gaming as well as some productivity. Game wise, I'm looking to play Baldur's Gate, War thunder, Arma 3 (heavily modded), Starfield (If it's any good). Program wise, I'm studying engineering, so running 3D CAD such as Fusion 360, as well as ECAD software like Altium Designer. I also use FPGA programming software, Vivado / Vitis, (Very single threaded).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I'm upgrading from a laptop, so this should be a big boost! I've adapted a build I found on pcpartpicker, you can find that here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KGMcYN

Looking for any comments or improvements on that list. I'm aiming towards 1080p gaming at the moment, but looking for the capability to upgrade to 1440p in the future. Goal is 100FPS.

Appreciate any advice!

 

[JimTheBeet]

Looks like a decent value, and a decent machine altogether! You can probably go with cheaper, slower, lower-capacity ram if you want to save a buck. If you really wanted to save money you could go last-gen with an AM4 system (on a 5600x or something), but at this price that might not be worth it. The cooler isn't necessary, the box cooler should be enough, but it does look a fair bit better and is what I'd recommend for a tower cooler anyway. Otherwise, it looks like the build I'd have made if I was building now - maybe I'd spend some cash on a nicer case just for aesthetics, but that's entirely up to you.

[Hinjima]

36 minutes ago, samygiy said:

Budget (including currency): £950 GBP

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I am planning to use it for gaming as well as some productivity. Game wise, I'm looking to play Baldur's Gate, War thunder, Arma 3 (heavily modded), Starfield (If it's any good). Program wise, I'm studying engineering, so running 3D CAD such as Fusion 360, as well as ECAD software like Altium Designer. I also use FPGA programming software, Vivado / Vitis, (Very single threaded).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I'm upgrading from a laptop, so this should be a big boost! I've adapted a build I found on pcpartpicker, you can find that here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KGMcYN

Looking for any comments or improvements on that list. I'm aiming towards 1080p gaming at the moment, but looking for the capability to upgrade to 1440p in the future. Goal is 100FPS.

Appreciate any advice!

 

This looks like a great list!  I love that you went with the Ryzen 7600, its an efficiency gaming beast.
I would personaly go with a better PSU and slightly higher wattage for future upgrades. The RM750e is great. It will be slightly over budget, The 7600 non X does come with an adequate cooler in the box and I would rather go with the RM750e and stock cooler over the EVGA PSU and the Peerless Assassin, this is something you can upgrade later if needed.
Other than that, Hinjima approved

[PDifolco]

58 minutes ago, samygiy said:

Budget (including currency): £950 GBP

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I am planning to use it for gaming as well as some productivity. Game wise, I'm looking to play Baldur's Gate, War thunder, Arma 3 (heavily modded), Starfield (If it's any good). Program wise, I'm studying engineering, so running 3D CAD such as Fusion 360, as well as ECAD software like Altium Designer. I also use FPGA programming software, Vivado / Vitis, (Very single threaded).

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I'm upgrading from a laptop, so this should be a big boost! I've adapted a build I found on pcpartpicker, you can find that here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KGMcYN

Looking for any comments or improvements on that list. I'm aiming towards 1080p gaming at the moment, but looking for the capability to upgrade to 1440p in the future. Goal is 100FPS.

Appreciate any advice!

 

It's ok but on a limited budget I think AM4 will work better for you

A 5700X is 8 cores to 6 on a 7600 so overall all core performance is better in productivity, and in gaming it's a tad slower but saved money  allows you to get a significantly better GPU, which plays a more important role there !

Not sure if AMD cards are suitable for CAD software, don't use it, but you're screwed with NVidia crap card with 8GB VRAM or scammy 4060Ti at $500, unless you can get a 4070, and you can't on that budget...

 

EDIT put by error a crappy 600W PSU, fixed

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£159.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£42.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£34.40 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (£430.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.97 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £966.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-30 14:14 BST+0100

 

[venomtail]

14 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

It's ok but on a limited budget I think AM4 will work better for you

A 5700X is 8 cores to 6 on a 7600 so overall all core performance is better in productivity, and in gaming it's a tad slower but saved money  allows you to get a significantly better GPU, which plays a more important role there !

Not sure if AMD cards are suitable for CAD software, don't use it, but you're screwed with NVidia crap card with 8GB VRAM or scammy 4060Ti at $500, unless you can get a 4070, and you can't on that budget...

 

EDIT put by error a crappy 600W PSU, fixed

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£159.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£42.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£34.40 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (£430.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.97 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £966.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-30 14:14 BST+0100

 

Swap to 4.0 M.2. A few pounds more.

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Swap to 4.0 M.2. A few pounds more.

Right

Fixed, thanks

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£159.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£42.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£56.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£41.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (£430.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Antec NeoECO Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.97 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £973.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-30 14:32 BST+0100

 

 

[SorryBella]

5 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (£430.00 @ Amazon UK) 

7800XT is expected to be around 70 GBP more and would be a bit of a power saving. Wait id say.

[votemarvel]

A couple of things. I don't see a monitor in your parts list. Do have you one at the moment that you use with your laptop or is it something that you are going to have to buy? If you don't have a monitor then you are going to need to factor in at least £100 for that.

 

I've build a PC in the Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 and it's not great. There's not much room for cable management and airflow is pretty bad. I'd honestly consider stepping down a generation to a Ryzen on the AM4 socket and putting the saving into a better case.

[Nathat23]

I think it'd be better to raise the budget if possible to something near £1250. It seems a bit wasteful to spend £950 on a dead-end platform while for relatively not much more you could get better. Say something like 7700X/3D + 7800XT when it releases.

[samygiy]

Hi guys, appreciate your comments. I took a few weeks to wait for the new gen AMD to drop.

 

On 8/30/2023 at 1:55 PM, Hinjima said:

This looks like a great list!  I love that you went with the Ryzen 7600, its an efficiency gaming beast.
I would personaly go with a better PSU and slightly higher wattage for future upgrades. The RM750e is great. It will be slightly over budget, The 7600 non X does come with an adequate cooler in the box and I would rather go with the RM750e and stock cooler over the EVGA PSU and the Peerless Assassin, this is something you can upgrade later if needed.
Other than that, Hinjima approved

Good spot! Got a lot of feedback about that cooler so it is outta here. I've also bumped up the PSU.

 

 

On 8/30/2023 at 2:12 PM, PDifolco said:

It's ok but on a limited budget I think AM4 will work better for you ...

 

I see where you're coming from, but I don't want to be locked in to AM4, especially when it means a full mobo + CPU + RAM upgrade whenever I need to upgrade. Having looked at some of the benchmarks of the 7700, 7800, I think that the 6800 xt is the way to go. I've upped my budget a bit to accommodate both.

 

 

On 8/30/2023 at 3:24 PM, votemarvel said:

A couple of things. I don't see a monitor in your parts list. Do have you one at the moment that you use with your laptop or is it something that you are going to have to buy? If you don't have a monitor then you are going to need to factor in at least £100 for that.

 

I've build a PC in the Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 and it's not great. There's not much room for cable management and airflow is pretty bad. I'd honestly consider stepping down a generation to a Ryzen on the AM4 socket and putting the saving into a better case.

Cheers for the heads up, I've also swapped to a better reviewed case.

 

My updated parts list is here: I've swapped out the ram for something a bit lower capacity as well. There's space for more if needed. I've also swapped the SSD for gen4 PCIe. Please let me know if there's more I should swap around!

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£209.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£133.26 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial CT2K8G48C40U5 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£40.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£485.24 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£68.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte P750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£73.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1051.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-13 22:15 BST+0100

 

 

 

EDIT:

On 8/30/2023 at 3:24 PM, votemarvel said:

A couple of things. I don't see a monitor in your parts list. Do have you one at the moment that you use with your laptop or is it something that you are going to have to buy? If you don't have a monitor then you are going to need to factor in at least £100 for that.

 

I've build a PC in the Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 and it's not great. There's not much room for cable management and airflow is pretty bad. I'd honestly consider stepping down a generation to a Ryzen on the AM4 socket and putting the saving into a better case.

I do already have monitors so not an issue. Will be looking to upgrade from my existing 1080p monitors to 1440p in the future.

[Hinjima]

19 minutes ago, samygiy said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£209.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£133.26 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial CT2K8G48C40U5 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£40.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£485.24 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£68.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte P750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£73.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1051.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-13 22:15 BST+0100

 

 

 

EDIT:

I do already have monitors so not an issue. Will be looking to upgrade from my existing 1080p monitors to 1440p in the future.

You will have a lot of fun with this one   The Ryzen 7600 might actually be my all time favorite CPU over the last 20 years, its such a beast, so efficient and an absolute powerhouse for the price.

I would still go with the RM750e..  I just don't trust that P-GM lineup from Gigabyte haha, its.. ehmm... Sketchy.

 

[samygiy]

Just now, Hinjima said:

You will have a lot of fun with this one   The Ryzen 7600 might actually be my all time favorite CPU over the last 20 years, its such a beast, so efficient and an absolute powerhouse at half the price of its competitors.

I would still go with the RM750e..  I just don't trust that P-GM lineup from Gigabyte haha, its.. ehmm... Sketchy.

 

That's a hell of a title lol, maybe the absolute cheapest CPU for the wattage is not the best!

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, samygiy said:

That's a hell of a title lol, maybe the absolute cheapest CPU for the wattage is not the best!

I think you mean PSU, but Yes.... Might want to skip this Gigabyte one.
Don't risk your entire system to save 20-30 bucks on a PSU. Or even your house burning down.

[samygiy]

Now with 100% less pyrotechnics:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£209.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£133.26 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial CT2K8G48C40U5 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory  (£39.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£40.09 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (£485.24 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£68.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£97.34 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1074.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-13 22:49 BST+0100