RAMs are Crazy

[ChiarElCornel]

So guys i need a little help, i have prime b450-plus and 32GB Ram 3200 mhz 16 cl (8 GB each), and until i put the last two rams, with 16 GB it worked in 3200 mhz with D.O.C.P. settings, but now with 32 GB my pc won't start with 3200 mhz and need to lowere it to 2800 and i have 1.35 volts

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Is this a proper 4x8 kit or two 2x8 kits stuck together?

 

if the latter then thatd explain your issues, send thaiphoon burner pics for the new and old sticks, might be able to tune your way out of this, if not then you can just swap for a 2x16 kit

[ChiarElCornel]

4x8, but 2x16 it's too expensive now to changhe

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, ChiarElCornel said:

4x8, but 2x16 it's too expensive now to changhe

Btw use the quote button or tag like @ChiarElCornel to make sure you get a reply

 

2 kits of 2x8 or an actual 4x8 kit?

send thaiphoon burner screenshot for all the sticks and ill see what i can do short of just reselling those rams

 

Btw what country? Might be able to find cheap 8gb or 16gb oem <2666 sticks you can overclock well past 4000 like m378a2k43db2 (16gb dual rank d die, 2666-3200 bins), m378a1g43eb1 (8gb dual rank samsung e die, 2133 only bin, clocks upto around 5000 ddr4, scales 2v+), all you have to do is set 3800mhz, set 16/18-22-22-22-52, set 1.45v vdimm, and forget, you can problably trade your sticks for oem dimms simply because the average layman will see your corsairs as much higher value than some crappy oem green pcbs but irl the green pcbs are far far superior than those corsairs

[ChiarElCornel]

@Somerandomtechyboi Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO White 16GB, DDR4, 3200MHz, CL16, Dual Channel Kit this are my RAMs 4 x 8, I am from Romania, and this is the shop i bought it from https://www.emag.ro/memorie-corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-white-16gb-ddr4-3200mhz-cl16-dual-channel-kit-cmw16gx4m2c3200c16w/pd/DKFR0WBBM/
i now somehow put my bios into asus oc mode and it worked to raise my mhz to 3000 with 1.35 voltage

[ChiarElCornel]

@micha_vulpes i am quite new to these terms, can you explain it like you would do it to a monkey so i can get what you say, i don't know what single rank is nor superIO, SOC voltage

[Somerandomtechyboi]

12 minutes ago, ChiarElCornel said:

@micha_vulpes i am quite new to these terms, can you explain it like you would do it to a monkey so i can get what you say, i don't know what single rank is nor superIO, SOC voltage

ill just walk you through

For now just download thaiphoon burner and send screenshots of all 4 ram sticks to deermine their ram ic

[ChiarElCornel]

@Somerandomtechyboi

[Somerandomtechyboi]

34 minutes ago, ChiarElCornel said:

@Somerandomtechyboi

Since all of em are samsung they may be the same ics but need to test

 

take out the new sticks to verify old sticks ic, set dram freq to 3600, set cl18 24-24-24-56. If it can post 3600 now set 3800, set cl19-26-26-26-58, set vdimm to 1.4v and see if it posts, if it doesnt post then its problably shit samsung c die, if it posts most likely samsung d die which is a pretty decent ic capable of 4600+

 

Run the exact same oc test on the new sticks

 

If the oc results differ then theyre problably diff ics and you are gonna be handicapped by the sticks with shittier ic aka problably samsung c die which will not scale with voltage and is trash that cant clock much past 3733

 

As for vsoc in bios you can set it to 1.15v

 

 

If you are confused simply send some screenshots of the bios and ill specify the ones you need to change

[ChiarElCornel]

@SomerandomtechyboiI have the IQ of a turkey, i will sent the photos of my bios thx so much for help I appreciate it
 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

15 minutes ago, ChiarElCornel said:

@SomerandomtechyboiI have the IQ of a turkey, i will sent the photos of my bios thx so much for help I appreciate it
 

Set memory frequency to 3600

Set fclk frequency to 1800

Set dram voltage to 1.4v

Set vddcr soc voltage to 1.15v

Set cas latency to 18

Set trcdrd trcdwr and ras pre time to 22

Set trc to 80

Set trfc to 700

Set trfc 2 to 550

Set trfc 4 to 350

 

 

Sidenote you should easily be able to acheive 4.7/4.8ghz allcore cpu freq by setting static 1.4v vcore with llc off or 4.5ghz ish with 1.3/1.25v llc off if you prefer efficiency. 5600 is a downclocked 5600x so not good to leave it stock as you are wasting performance potential

[ChiarElCornel]

@Somerandomtechyboiso i tried them and as usual it won't start idk men I am retardation

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

16 minutes ago, ChiarElCornel said:

@Somerandomtechyboiso i tried them and as usual it won't start idk men I am retardation

 

You are supposed to remove the new sticks since this is just testing the ram ics on both the old and new sticks

 

Remove the new sticks and test the old ones, once you are done testing the old ones test the new ones see if the results are any different

[ChiarElCornel]

@Somerandomtechyboiit doesn't work, idk i think my motherboard can't handle it, it put both new and old rams 2 x8 in slot #2 and slot #4 and the pc does the same.
PRIME B450-PLUS - my motherboard

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just now, ChiarElCornel said:

@Somerandomtechyboiit doesn't work, idk i think my motherboard can't handle it, it put both new and old rams 2 x8 in slot #2 and slot #4 and the pc does the same.
PRIME B450-PLUS - my motherboard

Try just leaving all the timings on auto but set cl to 18 and dram volt 1.4v

[freeagent]

8 hours ago, micha_vulpes said:

This is in general normal for ryzen when running 4 sticks

No it’s not.

 

9 hours ago, micha_vulpes said:

4 sticks, Single rank...

No it’s 2R.

 

9 hours ago, micha_vulpes said:

Even if you pump up voltage, play with SOC voltage, the memory controller itself on the superIO chip may just not be able to drive that.

Just stop.

 

 

The real problem is that Corsair makes shitty ram.